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No global warming/climate change according to NOAA? Cite it.


No global warming/climate change according to NOAA? Cite it.  

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Author: TheCrow   Date: 2/7/2023 4:05:22 PM  +3/-1   Show Orig. Msg (this window) Or  In New Window

"Have we been wasting a lot of dollars on global warming, destroyed a lot of our economy and businesses when there is not any?


"National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration has reported there has been NO global warming for the eighth year in a row."


Cite the source substantiating that. It doesn't appear at the NOAA site.


 


Are you contending that no global warming/climate change was reported  for the eighth year in a row. Cite that. When I reviewed their site, it reported unusually warm temperatures world wide:


Annual 2022 Global Climate Report


The year 2022 was the sixth warmest year since global records began in 1880 at 0.86°C (1.55°F) above the 20th century average of 13.9°C (57.0°F). This value is 0.13°C (0.23°F) less than the record set in 2016 and it is only 0.02°C (0.04°F) higher than the last year's (2021) value, which now ranks as the seventh highest. The 10 warmest years in the 143-year record have all occurred since 2010, with the last nine years (2014–2022) ranking as the nine warmest years on record. Of note, the year 2005, which was the first year to set a new global temperature record in the 21st century, currently ties with 2013 as the 11th-warmest year on record. The year 2010, which had surpassed 2005 at the time, now ranks as the 10th-warmest year on record.


 


As I have posted before, there is some question of the global warming being solely caused by human activity versus natural CO2 emissions which are cyclic to some extent. No matter which is ultimately responsible, it is wise to minimize humanities' contribution to the climate change. If it is the cause, then we could conceivably stabilize the process if not actually reversing it.  If anthropomorphic CO2 is not the sole cause, then reducing still makes sense.


Are efforts to minimize climate change damaging our economy? Perhaps those parts of the economy that are being adversely affected are those that contribute most to climate change? Perhaps those industries should change to less problematic methods of producing whatever.


Transportation and Climate Change


Burning fossil fuels like gasoline and diesel releases carbon dioxide, a greenhouse gas, into the atmosphere. The buildup of carbon dioxide (CO2) and other greenhouse gases like methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), and hydrofluorocarbons (HFCs) is causing the Earth’s atmosphere to warm, resulting in changes to the climate we are already starting to see today.


​Greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions from transportation account for about 27 percent of total U.S. greenhouse gas emissions, making it the largest contributor of U.S. GHG emissions. Between 1990 and 2020, GHG emissions in the transportation sector increased more in absolute terms than any other sector.


Fully electric, hybrid and plug in hybrid reduce emissions, even considering that the plants generating electricity are greenhouse gas emitters. The largest single greenhouse gas emitter is an electricity generating plant in Georgia- Plant Scherer.


Are electric vehicles definitely better for the climate than gas-powered cars?


The researchers found that, on average, gasoline cars emit more than 350 grams of CO2 per mile driven over their lifetimes. The hybrid and plug-in hybrid versions, meanwhile, scored at around 260 grams per mile of carbon dioxide, while the fully battery-electric vehicle created just 200 grams.


That quote considers total greenhouse gases from production, to power generation to 'tailpipe emissions'. Reducing "... gasoline cars emit more than 350 grams of CO2 per mile driven over their lifetimes" to "hybrid and plug-in hybrid versions, meanwhile, scored at around 260 grams per mile of carbon dioxide, while the fully battery-electric vehicle created just 200 grams". That reduces CO2 emissions by nearly half, a 44.44% reduction; and "... while the fully battery-electric vehicle created just 200 grams"  reduced CO2 by 25% from that of hybrid/plug-in hybrid.


 
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