Crowbot,
1. You deny reasonable evidence for belief, and you make gratitious assertions as fact.
Politically we have seen that tactic with your constant comments vis a vis Trump.
Do you deny the FAKE NEWS Russian Dossier? (funded by Hillary and company?) the FAKE impeachment
(trying to discredit Trumps exposure of Creepy Joe and the Democrat Mafia in UKRAINE, under Obama)
Now the chickens have come home to roost-- Putin keeps threatening Nukes-- If Trump were president you'd be appoplectic in your decrying the 'presidential incompetence" that led to this state-- even as you FALSELY once asserted Trump would lead us to WWIII.. (Its the other way around, But dont let the facts get in your way!)
And now your home State (Georgia) is pointing to the election fraud perpetrated in Georgia which fradulently helped install Biden.
Even as Democrats fight for no ID or citizenship requirements to vote? (no comment from you)
Creepy JOE's ABSOLUTE incompetence and utter disasters brewing at home and around the planet, and yet
__YOU REMAIN SILENT__.
Very Telling.
Youre a LIb.
Own it.
2. You throw a bunch of unfounded crap in the air and hope some of it will stick. Thats what Libs need to do since the TRUTH for them is no refuge. I'm not going to chase you down multiple rabbit holes, when you wont ever stick to the point, or admit reasonable evidences of TRUTH.
I am however, interested at the way you Libs think, ( postmodern irrationality oin display) The more you dig a hole, the more informative it is to watch.
Lets begin to summarize a few of your comments so far. ( me ) ( you)
1. You challenged the historical existence of Saint Paul.(!)
Provide some historical, non-religious record of Paul's/Saul's existence.
First of all, the standard you want to apply means nothing in either a religious or a secular context. There is plenty of HISTORICAL evidence in and out of the BIBLE for the lives and writings of figures like Saint Paul-- Backed up by fact. To assert otherwise, that Paul is a LITERARY INVENTION ( akin to the flying spagetti monster) is utter nonsense.
What do you know of Plato? Aristotle, DioCleatian, Ireneus, Constantine, Tertullian, Polycarp, Luther, Joseph Smith, Mohammad, Alester Crowley, and any number of historical figures who left behind a written legacy and cultural or religious influence (both written in their own hand, and in the hands of scribes, and interpreters after their death?)
On what basis do you actually question _PAUL'S_ EXISTENCE?
Perhaps it's more blasphemous to credit false prophets?
None, zero, nada of thse scriptures were written by your attributed authors. All were written at least a hundred years after their deaths. There is also some critical thought that the same author wrote all four and again: a hundred+ years after their death.
On what basis do you make that claim?
The FACTUAL history of the New Testament in particular is well known and attested to; textually culturally, and circumstancially. I could give you a lengthy class on these developments ( and I belive I have in thae past). I dont need to debunk the imagings of some have baked propagandist quoting some a Lib textual critic trying to make a name for himself (who denies PAULS EXISTENCE(?!) against the backdrop of 200) years of ACTUAL HISTORY
No one simply sat down and invented the characters seen in the New Testament, or what they clearly said and did. (as you assert.) And if you could PROVE they did, why should anyone place their FAITH in them or what they said and did?
You say its a story accepted on faith, but you also assert its just an invention?
(contradiction)
People BELIEVE things they have reasons to BELIEVE. Those reasons may vary, as do the outcomes of faith, but to deny as you do the authenticity of the story itself, and the characters authenticity too, thats far from even rational.
Ive debated professional Secular Humanists with more intellectual integrity than you have displayed, so far. Try to keep up!
You asked-- Evidence:
https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/people-cultures-in-the-bible/people-in-the-bible/the-quest-for-the-historical-paul/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_the_Apostle
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Saint-Paul-the-Apostle
<span style="color: #ff0000;">Forthright atheism would be far more honest than your approach . Atheists I have known dont deny these people existed. Clearly that would be insane, given their factual influence in recorded history.
ORIGINS OF PHYSICAL LIFE
We have debated this before.
I say" Evolution" isnt science -- Its more of a RELIGION-- Chief Justice Hugo Black thought so anyway
(( Torcaso v Watkins-- Scientific Evolution being the alternative belief in God of organized Secular Humamism, and so he ruled Roy Torcaso should be afforded Constitutional religious protections accordingly)
Evolution it lacks a working theory at the organic level, it was a 19th century INVENTION of atheists and political propagandists like you, draped is the 'mystery' of science. Especiually unfounded today ever since the discovery of DNA and the complexity of the Cell.
CHEMICAL EVOLUTION cannot exist; it operates consistently according to natural laws that work like gravity, reliably and predictably, and deterministically ( no "natural selectrion' allowed.) Where and how did the first cell come to be?
Abiogenesis
Watch the video below to see what a professional Biochemist witha little integrity
NOW BELIEVES.
Is Belief in God without EVIDENCE?
Neither is it concerning Paul and Jesus.
Evidence is admissible in may forms, and it is subject to reason,
not just blind FAITH in a childrens fable, as you suggest.
Useful Idiot!
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