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Msg ID: 2690486 Dumb and Dumber... +3/-3     
Author:Shooting Shark
5/28/2021 8:05:43 AM

I dont have too much time to respond to the shameless propagandist on this site who lives to post RINO nonsense. Come out of the closet and admit you're a flaming Democrat, Crowbot. you'll probably feel better when you don't neeed to work so hard spinning reality....

a few counter points-- it illustrate your lib-yard-ism:

"Gay and trans-gender people existed long before your so called "Greatest Generation", which you present as entirely un-Earthly, perfect. As did communism. Your homophobia reflects a distinct anxiety about your own sexuality."

Pop psychology -- and the old gradeschool taunt-- "I know you are, but what am I?" Silly lib. In your world you'll be defending child molesters next as " normal" too.(wait Hillary was reputedly surrounded by them!) . Wait, the age of eligibility for marriage in SC is STILL thirteen I hear, with parental consent. The reasons most people reject pedophilia ( and tranny insanity, for that matter) is because of the obvious consequences you Libz like to deny and spin. Gayness too. No one wants they kids to be gay for obvious reasons. 

"Which brings me back to an issue raised here before- the denial of the extreme right's own homosexual activity: do you, have you ever watched pornography? Do you prefer passive, flacid male performers? Do you ever strum your own guitar? Homosexual."

in your mind strumming your guitar is gay? Hmmm, no one ever got AIDS strumming their guitar. They did get AIDs in the early eighties having receptive and intercourse with 500 stranger sex partners in bathhouses. Hepatitis too. Wait, Dr Fauci 'discoverd' AIDS, right? 43 years later the WHO has a billion dollar trust fund to fight AIDS - and generic drugs could be produced en masse which could control and eliminate that disease in our generation. But No... why not? MONEY and POWER. You need a pandemic to rape entire populations, and if you don't have one you need to create one. in the case of AIDs you need to sustain one.

As for pornography, gay centered elementary school sex Ed and "Tranny story time" for preschoolers ( that's their terminology, not mine) is considered by most parents as Pornographic. Child pornography is illegal. exposing children to pornography is illegal too. Legalizing gay marriage doesn't change that fact. 

I said:


"So at the end of WWII the US debt to GDP ratio was about what it is right now. Yup, after building bombers and battleships and tanks by the thousands in a scant 4 years, after converting the entire economy into an industrial production machine, the debt was high-- and the highest marginal tax rate was around 90%"

 

You said:

Trumpism made clear: America needs another war?  What you fail to mentiion is that the immediate consequence of the war was a long recession.  And then a couple indecisive foreign wars and we're still fighting foreign wars, even after Trump promised to withdraw. Ain't that so?

I say youre ful of shit, as usual. I never advocated another war, just observed the fact that WWII produced a thriving wartime economy, with proportionate debt to match. In America today you Libz tried to equate CV19 with a "war" -- a propaganda war at best. 6 trillion, and where's the booming economy to match? Wear your masks Useful idiots! And the biggest TAX is called "moral hazard" by economists. You libz won't understand this but when you print that much money inflation taxes everyone. Have you bought a 2x4 lately, useful idiot?

 

Some term the Twentieth Century the "American Century. And it was in some aspects, so. America managed to avoid authoritarian government and isolationism, enabling great success in international commerce. Trump wanted to reverse that, withdraw America into itself. Leave the argument and let the remaining adverse influences be the sole source of information.

Let's talk about them taxes.... do you earn $400,000 annually? About half of American tax payers have no federal tax liability. Well, except SSI. Probably all that sound and fury about taxes is you parroting talking points- signifying nothing.

Naw.., I'm a millionaire, but I don't earn 400k a year. And I won't be hit by inflation as hard as you silly Libs, even when gas and milk goes to 5 dollars a gallon. You're to stupid to see Creepy Joe is no friend of the little guy.. he's a corporate puppet and a Chinese "Manchurian candidate".. fuck you and all your anti Trump bullshit. This ain't about Trump, it never was.  

"You and yours are bent on "creating and fleecing the ignorant unworthy masses". Limiting the franchise to make it 'secure and credible' after one of the highest turnout and most secure and credible election in about century?" 

Again your full of shit. The "Democrat Dialectic" is to accuse others of EXACTLY what you do, and most people see that today. You're a fool to deny DNC election manipulation. Voter ID anyone? Lying shills. 

 

 

 

"So today the laundry list of insanities is too long to innumerate here. It's been done before, and yet the mind control is strong. Scared Covid-phobic middle aged women wear their silly mask, politicians play both sides of the lib-conservative fense, blacks abort their kids and go to prison and and vote for eugenic racist Democrats, White males alter their genitalia and want to compete in women's sports-- But where did all the money go?"

 


Masks are a well-proven way to limit infection. Deny science, make it political much, butch?

Bullshit. Mask mandates are being shown to have been ineffective because the difference in non-mask states is insignificant. "Science" you DNC tool? It was always about, money, propaganda, compliance, corporate fascism, political identification, and fear mongering. Again, fuck your masks, Useful idiot! 

"Present evidence, not fantasy of trans-gender males distorting athletics. And do I care about what is essentially 'games', entertainment? Nope.  If I were to present an argument an argument, I would mention that the vast majority of transgender individuals have had 'bottom reassignment' surgery. Perhaps 85%, 90% are intact? Not really interested nor worried as you are. Crying Game in your past? 

I do feel sorry for those deluded enough to mutilate their own bodies."

I don't need to present what others have said  including the reigning queen of political tranyism, Kaitlyn Jenner. Why do you Libz think you can distort reality simply by denying it? 

 

"7 TRILLION Dollars printed, since last March, enough debt (scaled for inflation) to have once emerged from WWII with the same National debt ratio."

And where is the economic damage? Remember, Trump started the stimulus cycle to minimize the damage he cause by ignoring the novel coronavirus threat.

Inflation. You're obtuse to deny it.

 

 

 

"The BIG Money Mafia rigged this last election, installed Creepy Joe, printed Trillions in your name to fight a propaganda induced "pandemic" that never materialized, falsified statistics with outright bribes to hospitals, signed executive orders that turned the airlines and TSA into prison guards and executioners, broke the backs of small business, defied recall order petitions signed by millions, turned the southern border into a chaotic playground for drug-human trafficking cartels, destroyed the economy, increased the price of gas 60%, lumber 300% and general inflation in double-digits yet to be calculated.

 

"And -all you fools can do is still talk about Trump."

 

"The BIG Money Mafia" Is Trumpist. He is attempting to 'rig the election' by denying the franchise in state after state.

Again the "DNC dialectic" fuck you, and Hillary too! 

"... printed Trillions in your name to fight a propaganda induced "pandemic" that never materialized, falsified statistics with outright bribes to hospitals"

I'm somewhat confused here- the pandemic did indeed materialize, especially here in America. It put Trump in the hospital and has killed 606,179 Americans to date- more than our last three wars combined. But you deny those deaths?

If yore  confused it's because you promote propaganda. Show me why I should believe 600,000 people died from "Covid"-- you can't because you really don't have that data, you're just parrotimg what others have said. Why did -do they say it? Follow the money. 

 

"Do you not think that the federal government has a place in public health, that we should not be compensating hospitals for their services? If the federal government doesn't do it directly, it will do so indirectly through various hospital associations, county and state governments."

Changing the subject. Do you think big Pharma should pay the CDC to fastrack drug research to market new drugs without FDA approval? Congress allows this, they call it a "public private partnership".. then they pretend the CDC is a government organ exclusively-/"CDC guidance" right? You're a tool if you like this sort of "Government" involvement in healthcare.

Perhaps the health care market and health insurance structure should be reconciled to the twenty-first century business reality instead of pretending that the late nineteenth century model is working better now than then?

If the DNC is involved, that reconciliation won't help the masses -- and it very well may kill them. Useful idiot! 

""The mind control is STRONG with you!" Especially true with Trumpists. I can stand back and acknowledge the reality of Trump's failed presidency and his occasional success, without pretending that he is, or was a conservative. Or a Republican."

you are not a Republican or a Conservative. You're wasting your time pretending otherwise. The country is pissed, and elections are rigged. The DNC mafia is raping you, and you STILL talk about TRUMP?

You must be one of the DUMBEST

useful idiots! 



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Msg ID: 2690513 That's Exactly Who They Are, And It's Exactly What You Support...  +3/-0     
Author:Jett
5/28/2021 12:27:17 PM

Reply to: 2690486

Matt Gaetz tells MAGA fans 'to use the Second Amendment' against Silicon Valley for 'cancelling' conservatives while Marjorie Taylor Greene impersonates a CARTEL MEMBER as the embattled Republicans' America First tour reaches Georgia

  • Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene on Thursday continued their tour
  • They were in Dalton, Georgia - her constituency - for the America First rally
  • Greene amused her constituents with an impression of a Mexican in a cartel
  • She was unrepentant about her comments comparing masks to the Holocaust
  • Greene insisted she would not wear a face mask in Congress, despite the rules
  • Gaetz spoke at length about the Second Amendment, to cheers from the crowd
  • He said they had an 'obligation' to use it on Big Tech that censor conservatives
  • Gaetz also told the crowd the Second Amendment was meant for insurrection 
  • Republican Adam Kinzinger was among those condemning Gaetz's remarks 

Matt Gaetz has told his supporters that they have an 'obligation' to use their Second Amendment rights against Silicon Valley firms, in retaliation for their blocking of conservatives like Donald Trump.

The Florida congressman was in Georgia on Thursday night, speaking alongside Marjorie Taylor Greene, who represents the district. The pair of controversy-courting Republicans are currently in the midst of an 'America First' tour to drum up support for their campaigns.

Greene entertained her constituents in Dalton, 100 miles north of Atlanta, with her impressions of Mexican cartel members, who she said were delighted by the surge in migrant arrivals under President Joe Biden.

'The cartels love the Democrats,' said Greene.

'Yeah, they're down there like this: 'We're makin' a lotta money off of Biden. Joe Biden!'

'That's my really bad Mexican accent.'

Marjorie Taylor Greene was in her constituency on Thursday night, bringing her House colleague Matt Gaetz to Dalton, Georgia, around 100 miles north of Atlanta. The two passionately pro-Trump Republicans are in the midst of an 'America First' fundraising tour, that has seen them speak to crowds across the U.S. about election fraud and cancel culture
Marjorie Taylor Greene was in her constituency on Thursday night, bringing her House colleague Matt Gaetz to Dalton, Georgia, around 100 miles north of Atlanta. The two passionately pro-Trump Republicans are in the midst of an 'America First' fundraising tour, that has seen them speak to crowds across the U.S. about election fraud and cancel culture
Taylor Greene, 47, amused her constituents with her impressions of a Mexican cartel leader, putting on an accent to claim that the cartel members love Joe Biden, because he is soft on immigration and gives drug traffickers free rein at the border

It was Gaetz, however, who provoked the most anger with his calls for an armed assault on tech firms.

He accused them of silencing conservatives like Trump, who has been banned since the beginning of this year for inciting the January 6 riot.

'Maybe if you are just a little less patriotic. Maybe if you just conform to their way of thinking a little more, you'll be allowed to participate in the digital world.

'But you know what, Silicon Valley can't cancel this movement, or this rally, or this congressman.

'We have a Second Amendment in this country, and I think we have an obligation to use it.'

Gaetz's comments were immediately condemned by his fellow Republican representative, Adam Kinzinger, for Illinois.

Kinzinger, who is vocal in his condemnation of the pro-Trump wing of the party, tweeting in response to the clip: 'This is not speech protected by the first amendment. This is beyond yelling fire in a theater.'

Gaetz, 39, also issued a thinly-veiled threat about overthrowing the government.

'The Second Amendment – this is a little history lesson for all the fake news media,' he said.

'The Second Amendment is not about, it's not about hunting, it's not about recreation, it's not about sports.

'The Second Amendment is about maintaining, within the citizenry, the ability to maintain an armed rebellion against the government if that becomes necessary.

'I hope it never does, but it sure is important to recognize the founding principles of this nation, and to make sure that they are fully understood.'

Gaetz, a congressman for Florida, is using his speeches on the America First tour to discuss popular conservative themes - cancel culture, gun rights, election fraud and the U.S.-Mexico border. He is also defending himself against allegations he was involved in the sex trafficking of a minor

Both Gaetz and Greene are hoping to distract from their own controversies.

Gaetz is currently under investigation for the sex trafficking of a minor. His ex-girlfriend is cooperating with federal prosecutors, and his former 'wingman', Joel Greenberg, has taken a plea deal and implicated Gaetz in his sexual crimes.

Gaetz has not been charged, and insists that he is relaxed about anything Greenberg may say, pointing out that Greenberg has admitted to lying and smearing people.

Greene has caused outrage with her likening of policies insisting on wearing face masks in Congress to the Holocaust.

On Thursday night she was unrepentant, however, telling her constituents: 'I won't be wearing my mask anymore on the House floor.'

Gaetz earlier said he is open to running for president if Donald Trump does not. 

'I support Donald Trump for president. I've directly encouraged him to run and he gives me every indication he will,' Gaetz told The New York Post via text. 

'If Trump doesn't run, I'm sure I could defeat whatever remains of Joe Biden by 2024.'  

But Gaetz will have to come out unscathed from any claims made by Greenberg, a former Florida tax collector who pleaded guilty to six counts of fraud and sexual offenses earlier this month.  

Rep. Matt Gaetz told The New York Post that he's open to running for president - as long as former President Donald Trump doesn't try again for a second term 
Former President Donald Trump, photographed outside of Trump Tower earlier this week, has not yet said if he'll run for president in 2024, though hinted that he would 
A sketch of Joel Greenberg (right), described as a 'wingman' to Rep. Matt Gaetz, and Greenberg's attorney Fritz Scheller (left) in federal court in Orlando on May 17
Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene hold 'America First Tour'
 
Greenberg told investigators that the Florida Republican and at least two other men had sexual contact with a 17-year-old girl.  

Gaetz has denied those claims. 

'I'm not too worried about Joel Greenberg,' Gaetz told Newsmax last week.  

'Joel Greenberg is literally sitting in jail right now because he originally accused someone who was innocent of having had a relationship with a minor. That wasn't true, it was just a false thing that Joel Greenberg had said and that's landed him in quite a bit of trouble.' 

Gaetz told The Post he hasn't formed an exploratory committee for a 2024 White House bid.  

Another source told The Post that Gaetz could run as an assist to another prominent Florida man - the state's Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis. 

Gaetz could play attack dog for DeSantis and take out other members of the party if there's a crowded Republican primary, like New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie did for Trump, when he went after Florida Sen. Marco Rubio at a 2016 New Hampshire debate.  

Trump has not officially announced that he'll run for president again in 2024, though has hinted that he would. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Msg ID: 2690529 Trump may be out of office but Marjorie Taylor Greene will be around for at +3/-0     
Author:TheCrow
5/28/2021 2:22:53 PM

Reply to: 2690513

Trump may be out of office but Marjorie Taylor Greene will be around for at least another 18 months to embarass Trumpism.

GA14 is the whitest district in Georgia and in the lowest quartile for educational attainment, lowest half for household income.

Exactly the demographic for Trumpism- poor white rural male non-professional senior or near senior citizens. Not that they're 'stupid', but as a rule, little formal training in critical thinking....



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Msg ID: 2690530 That's Exactly Who They Are, And It's Exactly What You Support...  +3/-0     
Author:TheCrow
5/28/2021 2:30:38 PM

Reply to: 2690513

As posted elsewhere, it's not that Trump supporters are stupid. I know distinguished professionals who are Trumpists.  They are the exception to the rule that Trump supporters are generally not critical thinkers. One, being candid, said it wasn't Trump's political positions but his tax policies that favored the wealthy 0.1%.  If that isn't your demographic....

How Religion, Education, Race And Media Consumption Shape Conspiracy Theory Beliefs

May 27, 202112:12 PM ET

 

A person carries a sign supporting QAnon during a May 2020 protest rally in Olympia, Wash.

Ted S. Warren/AP

Religion, education, race and media consumption are strong predictors of conspiracy theory acceptance among Americans, according to a new survey from the Public Religion Research Institute.

The survey of 5,149 adults living across the United States released on Thursday finds a strong correlation between consuming right-wing media sources and accepting conspiracy theories such as QAnon.

The poll examines ties between religious beliefs and belief in false conspiracy theories. White evangelicals and Hispanic Protestants were the most susceptible to the QAnon theory.

About 1 in 4 respondents from those religious groups said they believed that "the government, media, and financial worlds in the U.S. are controlled by a group of Satan-worshipping pedophiles who run a global child sex trafficking operation," a statement associated with the false QAnon conspiracy theory.

That's notably higher than the 15% of Black Protestants, as well as 15% of Americans overall, who agreed with that statement. At 8%, Jewish Americans were the religious group least likely to say they agree.

The report also looks at education and media consumption. Americans who said they consume far-right news sources reported the highest rates of conspiracy theory acceptance; close to half said they believe in the tenets of QAnon. The survey defined outlets such as Newsmax and One America News Network, or OANN, as "far-right."

 

People without college degrees who responded to the survey were three times more likely to believe in conspiracy theories than Americans who had completed college.

 

The PRRI survey findings largely aligns with results of recent polling by NPR/Ipsos, including a December 2020 survey, which found widespread uptake of ideas linked to the QAnon conspiracy theory.



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