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Msg ID: 2691296 Unlike the January 6th 'tourist picnic', the next Trumpist insurrection is  +4/-1     
Author:TheCrow
6/4/2021 9:11:57 AM

Unlike the January 6th 'tourist picnic', the next Trumpist insurrection is being carefully planned.

Y'all "know Trump is 'owed' a term extension" because the media picked on him, right? If he has to destroy America to get that power he will. He proved that when he incited the mob to attack the Capitol.

 

Talk of overturning the 2020 election on new social media platforms used by QAnon followers sparks fears of further violence

 

(CNN)Online conversation among Trump supporters and QAnon followers on new and emerging social media platforms is creating concern on Capitol Hill that President Donald Trump's continued perpetuation of the falsehood that the 2020 election was stolen could soon incite further violence, three congressional sources tell CNN.

The social messaging platform Telegram has emerged as a particular source of concern among law enforcement officials, the congressional sources say. Groups on the platform dedicated to QAnon and pro-Trump conspiracy theories have tens of thousands of members -- many of whom hang on every word the former President says.

Trump's comments to right-wing media outlets in recent weeks have played directly into the false belief among some of his supporters that he will be reinstated as president in the coming months.

Federal law enforcement officials say there is an overall concern about rhetoric on the election in general, both online, on Telegram and other sites, and offline.

Officials are careful to stress that much of it falls under First Amendment free speech protections. But officials are worried about how the talk can encourage and inspire people to act. They are continuing to monitor extremists and others who at times have shown intentions of violence.

Major social media platforms like Facebook and Twitter suspended the accounts of influential peddlers of election conspiracy theories after the January 6 insurrection at the US Capitol, including Trump himself.

That resulted in a surge of downloads for alternative social media apps, and many Trump supporters have found a home on Telegram, where there are fewer rules against misinformation and conspiracy theories like QAnon.

Congressional sources tell CNN that Trump's comments about the highly questioned Republican-led audit in Arizona and his reported comments about returning as president in August are of particular concern.

One clip that circulated widely in some Telegram groups was part of an interview Trump gave to OAN in May. In a response to a question about a potential 2024 candidacy, Trump said that "something has to be done" before 2022 to stop the Democratic agenda.

"He doesn't have to wait until 2024 people, he's coming back this year, everything is going to be reversed," one Telegram user commented on the clip.

"It's a great day when we start seeing evidence of the plan coming together! He just told us it won't be long now," wrote another.

In another May interview with a right-wing radio host, Trump falsely suggested the controversial Republican-led audit in Arizona and audits elsewhere would show he didn't lose the election.

"It's going to be a very interesting time in our country," he said. "How do you govern when you lost?"

"We The People will take action," one Telegram user commented in reaction to a clip of the interview.

"Trump knows what happens. Biden administration will be removed," commented another, while one warned, "He just told us things are about to get very ugly all over America. These thugs aren't going to take this news very well! Be prepared!"

Over the weekend, when former national security adviser Michael Flynn appeared to endorse a coup in the United States, one influential QAnon peddler who has more than 70,000 followers on Telegram commented, "General Flynn says the quiet part out loud." Flynn later denied he had endorsed a coup. But for months, some Trump supporters have celebrated the violent coup in Myanmar and looked to it as a possible inspiration for a similar push here.

Telegram was founded in Russia in 2013 and quickly became popular as a propaganda and organizing tool for members of ISIS. The company did take some steps to tackle ISIS content.

Telegram did not respond to CNN's request for comment.

While Trump himself does not appear to have a public Telegram account, his son Donald Trump Jr. joined the platform earlier this year and now has more than 1 million followers.

Some other major perpetrators of the "big lie" that the election was stole from Trump have also found an audience on Telegram.

Ron Watkins is a former administrator of 8Kun (formerly 8chan) a hate-filled online forum that is the home of QAnon. The forum has been linked to multiple atrocities, including the El Paso and Christchurch shootings in 2019.

Watkins had made a name for himself on Twitter in the months between the election and the insurrection by posting conspiracy theories about voting machines.

In the days before the insurrection, Watkins was retweeted multiple times by Trump. He was suspended by Twitter after January 6.

Now, Watkins posts daily to his 200,000 followers on Telegram in Arizona -- continually casting doubt on the election result.

CNN's Evan Perez contributed to this report.


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Msg ID: 2691320 There Wasn’t A First, So Technically The ... +1/-3     
Author:obumazombie
6/4/2021 11:47:43 AM

Reply to: 2691296

Next would be the first.

"Talk" is the subject of the article.

And its from CNN one of the worst fake news outlets in the world.

Why not also quote Maggie Haberman?
She is a wealth of unsourced material.

Anything you find in the way of innuendo, conjecture, and rumor, you can use to enhance your...

 

Good job Goodlibs !



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Msg ID: 2691325 Turns Out, That DVE’s Are Almost Exclusively... +1/-3     
Author:obumazombie
6/4/2021 12:19:19 PM

Reply to: 2691320

libz...

 

https://spectator.org/biden-tulsa-domestic-terrorism-claims/

 

Good job Goodlibs!



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Msg ID: 2691333 Not quite aluminum foil hat time publication, but you don't have to stand  +3/-1     
Author:TheCrow
6/4/2021 1:10:53 PM

Reply to: 2691325

American Spectator

American Spectator - Right Bias - Republican - Conservative - Mostly CredibleFactual Reporting: Mixed - Not always Credible or Reliable


RIGHT BIAS

These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports, and omit information that may damage conservative causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy.

 
  • Overall, we rate the American Spectator Right Biased based on story selection and editorial positions that consistently favor the right. We also rate them Mixed for factual reporting due to poor sourcing techniques, a lack of disclosure with funding, and a couple of failed fact checks.

Detailed Report

Bias Rating: RIGHT
Factual Reporting: MIXED
Country: USA (45/180 Press Freedom)
Media Type: Website
Traffic/Popularity: Medium Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: MEDIUM CREDIBILITY

History

Founded in 1924, The American Spectator is a conservative website that until 2014 was a U.S. monthly magazine covering news and politics, edited by R. Emmett Tyrrell, Jr. and published by the non-profit American Spectator Foundation.  The former magazine and now website carries articles by notable conservative writers such as Thomas Sowell, Ben Stein, P.J. O’Rourk, and Patrick Buchanan. According to their about page, “The American Spectator Foundation educates the public on new ideas, concepts, and policies that favor traditional American values, such as economic freedom, individual liberty, self-sufficiency, and limited government.”

Read our profile on the United States government and media.

Funded by / Ownership

The nonprofit American Spectator Foundation publishes the American Spectator. The website does not disclose financing; however, they do have a subscription fee, a donation link, and advertising. Research shows that they have received considerable funding from the Koch Foundation.

 

Analysis / Bias

In review, The American Spectator reports news with a conservative bias. There is the moderate use of emotionally loaded language such as this: The Death of the Democratic Party. This opinion piece, which is not labeled as such, contains zero sourcing. As an online publication, there should be hyperlinks provided to support claims. In another article from their blog Immigration: Trump’s on the Right Track, there is again a complete lack of sourcing. We found some that were appropriately linked to credible media outlets by reviewing dozens of articles, but not many. Story selection always favors the right and denigrates the left. Editorially, the American Spectator favors President Donald Trump, such as this: The Reelection of Donald Trump. When it comes to the science of climate change, they do not align with the consensus of science, which they make clear in this article.

Failed Fact Checks

Overall, we rate the American Spectator Right Biased based on story selection and editorial positions that consistently favor the right. We also rate them Mixed for factual reporting due to poor sourcing techniques, a lack of disclosure with funding, and a couple of failed fact checks. (7/18/2016) Updated (D. Van Zandt 1/31/2021)

Source: https://spectator.org/



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Msg ID: 2691566 To Make Your McCarthyism Even Worse, ... +1/-1     
Author:obumazombie
6/6/2021 12:46:22 AM

Reply to: 2691333

You associate guilt, by judging a book by its cover.

I didn't think your McCarthyism could get worse, but I was wrong.

There was a time you libz hated McCarthyism, but now you love it even more than a...

 

Good job Goodlibs !



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Msg ID: 2691328 Unlike the January 6th 'tourist picnic', the next Trumpist insurrection is  +1/-2     
Author:obumazombie
6/4/2021 12:34:57 PM

Reply to: 2691296

National Pulse

 

Orr, a former POLITICO employee, would report as her first story for Jeff Zucker’s network that Rep. Gaetz had been denied a meeting with former President Trump. The aim of the story was to weaken support for Gaetz on Capitol Hill as the House returns from recess.

Orr’s e-mail read: “Apologies for bothering you on a Sunday but I wanted to run something by you for confirmation before reporting it out… I was told by two people familiar that Congressman Matt Gaetz asked to meet with former President Trump at [Mar-A-Lago] last week and was denied.”

But Orr did, in fact, “report it out” before receiving any confirmation from either side. And the original CNN story claimed neither side has responded, which wasn’t true.

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 She was reaching out from an unverified, anonymized ProtonMail account, while her Twitter biography still held her old, POLITICO e-mail address.

A few hours later, Gaetz’s team responded. At least, they thought they did.

“Rep. Gaetz was welcomed to Trump Doral this week and has not sought to meet with President Trump himself. He’s been mostly relaxing with his fiancée this week during recess. GOP establishment types can leak as many lies as they want to their friends at CNN, but a recent poll showed Rep Gaetz’s constituents are overwhelmingly supportive of him, and that’s the only support a Member of Congress needs,” their statement read, in full.

ORR CHANGED HER E-MAIL AFTER BEING QUIZZED ON THE MATTER.

The statement was sent to Orr on multiple channels, including every possible perturbation of a CNN e-mail address for her, her POLITICO e-mail address, and via Twitter direct messages, The National Pulse has verified. Spokesmen tend not to respond to “@protonmail.com” or other easily faked e-mail accounts because they have no way of verifying that it is the actual reporter reaching out. They prefer official emails.

When the story was released, and as of the time of publication, CNN failed to include this whole statement in their story. Instead, they claimed Gaetz staff had not responded.

MUST READ:  TRUMPESQUE: Thousands Rally in Arizona as Gaetz, Greene Lead National Tour Blasting Biden and Destructive Democrats.

The National Pulse reached out to Orr over the matter, who admitted in direct messages to me, an “Honest mistake,” and “a sincere oversight on my end,” adding: “I would never deliberately ignore a spokesperson’s response to a request for comment.”

ORR’S ADMISSION OF GUILT.

But even after several “updates” the article still only contains half the Gaetz spokesman comment, and for hours did not reference the most critical part of the story, which came shortly after CNN had to first update its story: the official denial from Trump world.

Trump comms strategist Jason Miller took to Twitter to slam Orr and CNN’s reporting, claiming the entire thing was fabricated.

 

Why – if Gaetz had really reached out and was openly rebuffed – would Trump’s spokesman bother responding like this? Surely the point would be to hang Gaetz out to dry. But they didn’t.

Miller insisted: “This CNN story is complete fake news. No such scheduling or meeting request was ever made, and therefore, it could never have been declined. Take note that this story has zero on-the-record sources. It’s literally made-up. We are demanding a full retraction.”

He added, in a second statement: “CNN has no on-the-record sources making this claim, no electronic or written or recorded evidence backing up this claim, it flat out never happened, and we demand a full retraction of this story. Who was the editor that allowed this to be printed???”

That CNN failed to approach Miller in the first instance, forcing a post-publication correction would be bad enough.

But the CNN editorial process failed on multiple levels:

  • The reporter failed to include the comment from the spokesman of the subject of the story;
  • The reporter e-mail from an anonymized, private e-mail account, not an official address;
  • The reporter’s contact details in her own biography were incorrect;
  • CNN refused to retract the story, even once they learned they had it completely wrong.
MUST READ:  TRUMPESQUE: Thousands Rally in Arizona as Gaetz, Greene Lead National Tour Blasting Biden and Destructive Democrats.

But wait, that’s not all.

Your faithful correspondent was at the Trump Doral event this weekend in Miami, wherein Rep. Gaetz broke his silence on the number of increasingly bizarre allegations against him and even preemptively warned of “anonymous sources” in stories about him.

It took less than 24 hours for his predictions to be borne out.

CNN wrote of the speech, given to the Women for America First group, “Aides saw his last-minute speech at the Women for America First event, which was held at the nearby Trump National Doral resort, as a blatant attempt to reach Trump and his supporters.

“A person directly involved with Trump’s post-presidential operation said the ex-President’s aides ‘were under the impression that Gaetz went down there to try and run into Trump or people around him’.”

CNN’S FALSE STORY REMAINED ON THEIR HOMEPAGE EVEN AFTER ADMITTING THEIR MISTAKES.

But the claim makes no sense for multiple reasons, confirmed and observed by The National Pulse:

  1. Gaetz arrived at the event, spoke, and left. He did not attempt to “run into” anyone;
  2. Trump’s whereabouts this weekend were well known. He was hosting at Mar-A-Lago, not Doral, and therefore there was no chance of “running into Trump”;
  3. CNN accredited 12 reporters to the Doral event to cover Gaetz’s speech, any of whom could have confirmed these details to their own reporter, Gabby Orr.

As of the time of publication, this farcical, anonymously-quoted line remains in CNN’s story.

It is very possible Orr’s representation of the events are as she claims: an “Honest mistake.” But if it was so honest, why does the false article remain on the CNN website, and why do these “mistakes” only ever happen when reporting on conservatives?

 

The fake news mistakes, only happen to conservatives.

Is that because libz do such an incompetent...

 

Good job Goodlibs?



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Msg ID: 2691331 Gaetz and Greene, that's your speed Zombie, Losers All... (NT) +4/-1     
Author:Jett
6/4/2021 12:41:44 PM

Reply to: 2691328


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Msg ID: 2691334 "Gaetz and Greene, that's your speed Zombie, Losers All" Amen. +3/-1     
Author:TheCrow
6/4/2021 1:11:33 PM

Reply to: 2691331

Jewish space lasers....



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Msg ID: 2691349 "The National Pulse" is an aluminum foil hat time publication +3/-1     
Author:TheCrow
6/4/2021 1:47:42 PM

Reply to: 2691328

I can recommend some news publications, websites that deal in reality, facts, if you're interested. 

I suggest that because most of your citations are less credible than Hans Christian Andersen's fiction.

The National Pulse

National Pulse - Questionable - Right Bias - Conservative - Fake News - Not Credible

Factual Reporting: Mixed - Not always Credible or Reliable


QUESTIONABLE SOURCE

A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no sourcing to credible information, a complete lack of transparency, and/or is fake news. Fake News is the deliberate attempt to publish hoaxes and/or disinformation for profit or influence (Learn More). Sources listed in the Questionable Category may be very untrustworthy and should be fact-checked on a per-article basis. Please note sources on this list are not considered fake news unless specifically written in the reasoning section for that source. See all Questionable sources.

 
  • Overall, we rate The National Pulse Questionable based on extreme right-wing bias, promotion of propaganda and conspiracy theories, affiliation with a known questionable group, and a few failed fact checks.

Detailed Report

Reasoning: Propaganda, Conspiracy, Failed Fact Checks
Bias Rating: EXTREME RIGHT
Factual Reporting: MIXED
Country: USA (45/180 Press Freedom)
Media Type: Website
Traffic/Popularity: Medium Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY

History

Founded in 2016, The National Pulse is a Washington-based political news and news media publication. The National Pulse promotes a conservative line on a wide range of issues such as Planned Parenthood, LGBT, and Common Core. The National Pulse is also affiliated with the questionable American Principles Project, which advocates for immigration reform, banning abortions, and denying LGBTQ equal rights.

Read our country media profile of the USA.

Funded by / Ownership

The National Pulse is owned by The American Principles Project (APP), which is a 501(c)(3) think tank founded in 2009 by Robert George, Jeff Bell, and Frank Cannon. APP promotes a combination of libertarian and socially conservative policies. The Southern Poverty Law Center has accused American Principles Project of promoting conspiracies but has not formally labeled them a hate group. Advertising, donation, and an APP generate revenue.

Analysis / Bias

In review, The National Pulse’s reporting regarding politics uses strong emotional loaded words such as in this article “LGBT Activists Spending Big to Elect Transgender Candidate in Virginia.” They also only cover one side of the story that favors their conservative causes. Although they source their articles, it is typically to far-right sources that have poor track records with fact-checkers.

Editorially, they promote conservative policies such as anti-immigrationanti-abortion, and anti-gay marriage positions. They also frequently rail against Planned Parenthood, such as this, 10 Disturbing Facts from Planned Parenthood’s (Late) Annual Report. Finally, The National Post occasionally promotes conspiracy theories such as this: EXCLUSIVE: CCP-Linked Firm Targets U.S. Schoolkids With Chinese ‘Morality and Values,’ Shows CCP Military Parades in Schools. While elements of this article are true, the author claims, “In light of coronavirus, virtual learning is the only remaining avenue for the CCP to turn American school children into 21st century little red guards”, which is not supported by evidence. In this case, the author creates a conspiracy theory. In general, news and commentary contain extreme right perspectives that occasionally promote conspiracy theories, while the parent organization has made false claims.

Failed Fact Checks

Overall, we rate The National Pulse Questionable based on extreme right-wing bias, promotion of propaganda and conspiracy theories, affiliation with a known questionable group, and a few failed fact checks. (M. Huitsing 8/21/2017) Updated (03/14/2021)



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Msg ID: 2691387 CNN Said The Wuhan Flu Was A Tin Foil ... +1/-3     
Author:obumazombie
6/4/2021 5:54:47 PM

Reply to: 2691349

Hat conspiracy.
They colluded(you libz used to say you hated collusion) with social media sites, to ban anyone who even so much as questioned the lib orthodoxy, of the impossibilty that the Wuhan flu originated in Wuhan.

CNN spiked any story that conflicted with that orthodoxy.

Now that it turns out that Fauci was the predicate for what amounted to a RICO scam, under the owebuma/Biden administration.

You libz also used to say you hated McCarthyism. 
You use accusations of it to silence opposition, then you ACTUALLY commit McCarthyism with guilt by association.

Nice racket, if you can pull it off.

Turns out that CroWalt left is the most expert McCarthyism accuser, while simultaneously ACTUALLY committing McCarthyism that this forum has ever seen.

Don't put stock in any of the Bigfoot fact checking sites.

They are hard lib.

Look at their funding.

Look at their track record of 10:1 or worse ratio of so called fact checking conservatives over libz.

Address the facts of the case, not the source of the publication. 

Address it like it might just be a...

 

Good job Goodlibs!



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