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Msg ID: 2692516 To Crow and Jett from below +3/-3     
Author:Old Guy
6/13/2021 7:10:50 PM

I will post it again, read it this time.

Idaho passed a law that says,

"NO SCHOOL MAY TEACH ANY SYSTEM THAT CLAIMS MEMBERS OF ANY RACE, SEX, RELIGION, ETHNICITY OR NATIONAL ORIGION ARE INFERIOR OR SUPERIOR TO OTHER"

What about that do you not understand?

What about that do you disagree with?

Why would you support any teaching that claims inferior or superior cases of people.

Don't tell me that Critical Race Theory does not teach that, because that one statement makes Critical Race Theory illegal in Idaho classrooms.

useful idiots 

 



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Msg ID: 2692533 I don't disagree, I like that law, it's only missing one thing... +3/-2     
Author:Jett
6/13/2021 9:26:48 PM

Reply to: 2692516

It should also include "Sexual Orientation". What are you so worked up about, I never said I didn't like that law. 

But what you're saying is that Critical Race Theory teaches that some race is superior to others, but from what little I've read about it I didn't see that. It seems to say that racism is built into the American system, it's part of the building blocks and it says that's wrong.

My opinion has always been the same, teach children the truth. To do that you must teach that there is still a lot of Racism in America, much more so in some places than others, but it's alive and well. 

But I'll congratulate Idaho on what sounds like a good law, all people are equal no one is better than anyone else.  



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Msg ID: 2692534 The Only Racism Left In America Is Harbored… +3/-4     
Author:obumazombie
6/13/2021 10:30:52 PM

Reply to: 2692533

By libz...

The lib theory of race relations, is that we minorities cannot thrive or even survive, without the help of libz.

The libz think they need to make excuses for minorities, to give minorities handouts, to create uneven playing fields where minorities get preferential treatment.

The libz think this because the libz think minorities are inferior to them.

The libz know what is good, better, best for minorities.

The libz also know the best hierarchy for minorities.

Women and or negroes are on the bottom rung.

The alphabet people including the trannies are on the next rung up.

Close to the top are the muzzies.

But it is important to note that the muzzies, even though they are on the top rung, are still inferior to the libz of course.

The libz have given us so much help, we are nearly drowning in lib sympathy.

The lib sympathy has created customs, norms, and institutions that have chipped away the self respect, and dignity of those they purport to save.

All they ask for in return is our vote.

Now, with our minority communities in ruins, but still faithfully voting for libz, you can imagine the lib consternation when we voted for Trump and the GOP like never before.

Trump asked minorities, what do you have to lose?

At that point,nothing, because by helping minorities, all the libz are doing is holding minority's heads underwater.

I just wish the libz would stop helping us to death, because they know better that minorities are not smart enough, not resourceful enough, not entrepreneurial enough to survive without them.

And not even all that so much as that when a lib buys a vote, that vote better stay bought.

Please stop helping us libz, you are helping minorities to death.

While you help yourselves to a...

 

Good job Goodlibs!



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Msg ID: 2692536 Obviously, you don't know much about America... +3/-2     
Author:Jett
6/13/2021 11:40:08 PM

Reply to: 2692534

And even less about Racism. I would encourage you to educate yourself on the issue, you can start here...

https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2019

 

 



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Msg ID: 2692537 The Only Racism Left In America Is Harbored… +3/-2     
Author:TheCrow
6/14/2021 12:04:05 AM

Reply to: 2692534

By libz...

That post and subject line are proof of your bigotry if not racism. You assig[n individual trait to a group of independent people.

Further, you provide evidence to suppirt the "Critical Race Theory in denying racism in America against all evidence to the contrary.



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Msg ID: 2692539 Really!! +3/-3     
Author:Old Guy
6/14/2021 12:40:50 AM

Reply to: 2692537

Is it bigotry and/or racism too look at an individual trait and assign that trait to a group!

That what CRT teaches, racism.  CRT has no individuals, all issues are treated as "social groups".

useful idiot 

 

 



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Msg ID: 2692563 Really!! +3/-2     
Author:TheCrow
6/14/2021 10:00:51 AM

Reply to: 2692539

"Is it bigotry and/or racism too look at an individual trait and assign that trait to a group!" I assume that's a question and you omitted the question mark. Yes, that is exactly what racism is- assigning an individual trait to a group. As in lalla o-mujjieidummiezombie's post stating "The Only Racism Left In America Is Harbored By libz..."

There are people on all sides of the political-liberal spectrum who are racist and bigots. It manifests in different ways. Trumpists being a subset of the extreme right support Trump's racist attitudes more often than other bodies. Fact is, it's difficult to be "Trumpist" and not be racist unless you qualify that with an adjective, like "trade Trumpist".

CRT identifies the racist issue in America with the entire body of America: liberal, conservative, whatever. Racism is endemic and systemic in America, ignoring that or pretending it doesn't exist is exactly the problem argued in CRT.

Your post asserting "NO SCHOOL MAY TEACH ANY SYSTEM THAT CLAIMS MEMBERS OF ANY RACE, SEX, RELIGION, ETHNICITY OR NATIONAL ORIGION ARE INFERIOR OR SUPERIOR TO OTHER" is a continuation of the issue identified in CRT. The evidence of systemic racism is clear in the data:

 

Disparities in Wealth by Race and Ethnicity in the 2019 Survey of Consumer Finances

Neil BhuttaAndrew C. ChangLisa J. Dettling, and Joanne W. Hsu with assistance from Julia Hewitt1

New data from the 2019 Survey of Consumer Finances (SCF) show that long-standing and substantial wealth disparities between families in different racial and ethnic groups were little changed since the last survey in 2016; the typical White family has eight times the wealth of the typical Black family and five times the wealth of the typical Hispanic family.

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"... about 46 percent of White families own their home, compared to just 17 percent of Black families."

 

Explain those statistics without systemic racism.

Did the bill allowing educators use of the Bible as a science text pass in Idaho?



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Msg ID: 2692564 Then you agree with me +2/-2     
Author:Old Guy
6/14/2021 10:04:38 AM

Reply to: 2692563

Critical Race Theory has NO place in or class rooms!

 



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Msg ID: 2692565 "Then you agree with me" No. +2/-2     
Author:TheCrow
6/14/2021 10:11:46 AM

Reply to: 2692564

Here's a question: did your education discuss fascism, communism, etc.? Dictatorships? Monarchies? Probably, yes, and probably as failed systems of government.

Did your education teach you about plagues, sanitation, public health measures?

Perhaps knowledge is better than ignorance?

Have you read the Critical Race Theory itself? Or are you basing your opinion of the words of others? You should read it before you critique it.

RACIAL CRITIQUES OF LEGAL ACADEMIA



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Msg ID: 2692569 "Then you agree with me" No. +2/-1     
Author:Old Guy
6/14/2021 10:20:19 AM

Reply to: 2692565

I have read most of it and I am aware that under CRT there is NO individual.  All people and issues are looked at by their group they fall within.  Martin Luther King is rolling over in his grave be cause his "Ihave a dream is rejec by CRT.

useful Idiot 



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Msg ID: 2692567 "Then you agree with me" Again, no. +2/-2     
Author:TheCrow
6/14/2021 10:17:24 AM

Reply to: 2692564

Explain the disparities between white Americans and african Americans in demographic data without systemic racism. The recognition of that systemic racism and its effects is necessary to rectify the problems.



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Msg ID: 2692571 Simple +2/-2     
Author:Old Guy
6/14/2021 10:23:08 AM

Reply to: 2692567

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/06/no_america_is_not_plagued_with_systemic_racism.html



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Msg ID: 2692572 "American Thinker?" Really? You do KNOW that is not a credible source? +2/-2     
Author:TheCrow
6/14/2021 10:30:45 AM

Reply to: 2692571

"American Thinker?" Really? You do KNOW that is not a credible source?

Again, explain the various disparities between the African American and white American economic demographics without racism.

 
 
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Msg ID: 2692575 More credible than your fact checker! (NT) +2/-2     
Author:Old Guy
6/14/2021 10:49:27 AM

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Msg ID: 2692588 First, last and always: Again, explain the various disparities between the +2/-2     
Author:TheCrow
6/14/2021 12:06:52 PM

Reply to: 2692575

First, last and always: Again, explain the various disparities between the African American and white American economic demographics without racism. 

 

Disparities in Wealth by Race and Ethnicity in the 2019 Survey of Consumer Finances

Neil BhuttaAndrew C. ChangLisa J. Dettling, and Joanne W. Hsu with assistance from Julia Hewitt1

New data from the 2019 Survey of Consumer Finances (SCF) show that long-standing and substantial wealth disparities between families in different racial and ethnic groups were little changed since the last survey in 2016; the typical White family has eight times the wealth of the typical Black family and five times the wealth of the typical Hispanic family.

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"... about 46 percent of White families own their home, compared to just 17 percent of Black families."

 

 

Refute these analysis as reported by Media Bias/Fact Check, :



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