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Msg ID: 2692562 To Crow, from below  +2/-3     
Author:Old Guy
6/14/2021 10:00:26 AM


Crow below you stated that Biden did not endorse Critical race theory, what a lie.

https://nypost.com/2021/04/22/white-house-mulling-grants-for-critical-race-theory-in-classrooms/https://nypost.com/2021/04/22/white-house-mulling-grants-for-critical-race-theory-in-classrooms/

And then you say he does not even endorse liberalism, you may be right about that,he is way to far to the left to be a simple liberal.

useful idiot 



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Msg ID: 2692594 To Crow, from below  +2/-2     
Author:TheCrow
6/14/2021 1:22:30 PM

Reply to: 2692562

"Crow below you stated that Biden did not endorse Critical race theory, what a lie."

And I'll repeat a point I posted elsewhere- an educated student needs to be exposed to information of all kinds. I don't agree with everything in the Critical Race Theory document, but one thing is certain: systemic racism exists in America.

How else do you explain this?

Disparities in Wealth by Race and Ethnicity in the 2019 Survey of Consumer Finances

Neil BhuttaAndrew C. ChangLisa J. Dettling, and Joanne W. Hsu with assistance from Julia Hewitt1

New data from the 2019 Survey of Consumer Finances (SCF) show that long-standing and substantial wealth disparities between families in different racial and ethnic groups were little changed since the last survey in 2016; the typical White family has eight times the wealth of the typical Black family and five times the wealth of the typical Hispanic family.

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"... about 46 percent of White families own their home, compared to just 17 percent of Black families."

 


Or this:

The Color of Justice: Racial and Ethnic Disparity in State Prisons

JUNE 14, 2016
African Americans are incarcerated in state prisons across the country at more than five times the rate of whites, and at least ten times the rate in five states. This report documents the rates of incarceration for whites, African Americans, and Hispanics in each state, identifies three contributors to racial and ethnic disparities in imprisonment, and provides recommendations for reform.


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Msg ID: 2692606 Reason for disparities in wealth by race +3/-2     
Author:Old Guy
6/14/2021 2:46:58 PM

Reply to: 2692594

DEMOCRATS !!!



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Msg ID: 2692616 How about the disparity in 'red' states? (NT) +3/-3     
Author:TheCrow
6/14/2021 3:04:54 PM

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Msg ID: 2692629 We went thru about red and blue state “you lost” (NT) +2/-2     
Author:Old Guy
6/14/2021 5:18:24 PM

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Msg ID: 2692643 So- you blame the Democrats for African-American economic disparity even in +2/-1     
Author:TheCrow
6/14/2021 6:38:39 PM

Reply to: 2692629

So- you blame the Democrats for African-American economic disparity even in Republican administered state governments...

Now that's some rational thinking you got there.



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Msg ID: 2692646 YES! +2/-2     
Author:Old Guy
6/14/2021 6:48:24 PM

Reply to: 2692643

Name one democratic program that has helped African-Americans.  You could name a programs that might have helped put dinner in their belly, but not get them a job.



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Msg ID: 2692653 Voting Rights Act of 1965 (NT) +3/-1     
Author:TheCrow
6/14/2021 7:08:40 PM

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Msg ID: 2692658 Hay! Hold on about that! +2/-3     
Author:Old Guy
6/14/2021 7:26:16 PM

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more democrats opposed that bill then republicans .

Only 2 republicans voted NO, but 17 democrats voted No, 4 democrats did not vote.

Try again, what have the democrats done fo African Americans?



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Msg ID: 2692662 Hay! Hold on about that! +3/-1     
Author:TheCrow
6/14/2021 8:28:42 PM

Reply to: 2692658

Passed the House 333 to 85. 221 Democrats voted for it,

Passed the Senate 77 to 19. 47 Democrats voted for it.

Sounds like the Democrats carried that one, don't it?



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Msg ID: 2692664 Hay! Hold on about that! +2/-3     
Author:Old Guy
6/14/2021 8:49:41 PM

Reply to: 2692662

There are more than one way to look at this.

1st by the percentage, more republicans supported it than democrats,  All most every NO vote was a democrat.

2nd.  I asked you what the democrats have done for the African Americans and the 1965 voting act is what you come up with.  A bill that was more popular with republicans than democrats.  That's it, so sad!

useful idiot 

 



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Msg ID: 2692681 Hay! Hold on about that! +1/-2     
Author:obumazombie
6/15/2021 1:43:41 AM

Reply to: 2692664

He doesn't know, because he thinks in his far superior thoughts, that he is helping minorities.

Of course he is, in his own mind.

And, he is in reality helping us minorities, helping us to death.

That's how libz roll.

A vote bought is a vote that stays bought, when it comes to libz.

Good job Goodlibs!



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Msg ID: 2692718 You asked me to "Name one democratic program that has helped African-Americ +2/-0     
Author:TheCrow
6/15/2021 12:03:01 PM

Reply to: 2692664

You asked me to  "Name one democratic program that has helped African-Americans.  You could name a programs that might have helped put dinner in their belly, but not get them a job."

I did. It is obviously a Democratic bill, even with Republican co-sponsors.

Both houses were approximately 2/3 Demmocratic Party. The bill was introduced into Democratic bodies, passed and signed by a Democratic Party president.

That's the history, you can interpret it any way you want, but those are the facts. A Democratic congress passed a Democratic bill. It's called 'bi-partisan' when both parties approve of the substance and pass the bill. Gone out of fashion with McConnell's influence- "The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president," he said in the interview.



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Msg ID: 2692752 Ok, I can give you one +1/-2     
Author:Old Guy
6/15/2021 2:05:36 PM

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But there is not enough time in the day to point out republica programs that have helped African-Americans. 

listing just a few:

Civil rights - every major civil rights bill passed with a higher percentage of Republican votes, EVERY ONE!

School desegregation - Republicans came up with the solution 

Reducing tax burden - Republicans started the Earned Income Tax Credit.

Equal Opportunity - Nixon executive order forced all to treat blacks and Hispanic fairly

Fair housing Amendment Act and Martin Luther holiday - Reagon did that

Urban renew - Republicans gave us empowerment zones, HUB zones, and Opportunity zones.  Not one improvement zone has come from the democrats.

Welfare reform - republicans have tried to force welfare reform to end the dependency.  The produced Debit/Electronic cards and benefit transfer provisons

 

 



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Msg ID: 2692754 Not the issue that you challenged me on. Changing the subject as you lose? (NT) +1/-0     
Author:TheCrow
6/15/2021 2:10:46 PM

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Msg ID: 2692756 Subject not changed, you can’t win this one. (NT) +1/-2     
Author:Old Guy
6/15/2021 2:14:58 PM

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Msg ID: 2692764 Let's run down the thread, from the latest twist of the discussion as to  +1/-0     
Author:TheCrow
6/15/2021 3:05:46 PM

Reply to: 2692756

Let's run down the thread, from the latest twist of the discussion as to what and if the Democratic Party had ever done for African Americans:

YES!

Author: Old Guy   Date: 6/14/2021 6:48:24 PM

Name one democratic program that has helped African-Americans. You could name a programs that might have helped put dinner in their belly, but not get them a job.


The Voting Rights Act. And some others. But- I'm a conservative Republican for exactly the reasons you highlight. 

You can't argue the point taken, so you're distracting, dissembling and diverting attention from your failure.



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Msg ID: 2692789 OK let’s run down this thread +0/-1     
Author:Old Guy
6/15/2021 5:46:08 PM

Reply to: 2692764

Started when I proved you lied about Biden supporting CRT.

you reply with disparities by race.

my reply responded with the reason for disparities was from democrats 

you went to misinformation about red and blue states.

my responce pointed out you already lost that discussion.

you again replyed about disparity in red states.

my response mobed the discussion directly to the read issue.  Democrats have not really helped, so I asked what programs have they done that helped.

you reply with the voting rights act.

I point out many democrats opposed it.  Asked again what democrats have done.

again you post about the voting rights act.  (must not be anything else they have done).

I again point out many democrats voted no.

you again point out the voting rights act.  I guess you considered that is the one.  Even  if it was a insignificant program and not much of a accomplishment.

So I replyed by pointing out some things republicans have done, to show that republicans don't just talk about a issue they will actually do something.

OK that's a simple run down of this thread.  

Now get over it, the democrats have have not helped in any way, they just give away free stuff, that helps no one in the long run.

useful idiot 



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Msg ID: 2692791 OK let’s run down this thread +0/-1     
Author:obumazombie
6/15/2021 5:52:27 PM

Reply to: 2692789

Old Guy,

I don't disagree with your analysis and summation, I just didn't see how I got left out.

Can you get me in to your closing arguments next time?
If you did, you could show where the useful idiots are doing a...

 

 Good job Goodlibs!



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Msg ID: 2692796 OK let’s run down this thread +1/-2     
Author:Old Guy
6/15/2021 6:23:10 PM

Reply to: 2692791

I did not leave you out on purose, your point was right on and of course helped make my point.

As you know, I almost never reply to Jett, jett show no understanding of issues or what is real.  He is off into some make believe worof were everybody must be sexually weird person or a white supremist. 

I do respond to Crow, he thinks he is a conservative, (ha!) posts like he knows but what he knows is always wrong!  But he does, try to respond, to bad he doesn't respond using his god given brains and common sense.  Instead, he is like all the other sheep on the left, relying on fake talking points.

I have enjoyed many of your posts, keep it up.  

 



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