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Msg ID: 2692694 Systemic Racism +2/-3     
Author:Old Guy
6/15/2021 10:18:06 AM

I just realized why the left thinks the US is systemically racist, because the democrats all have been racist. Racism  is embedded in the Democratic Party They are obsessed with race and racial identity.  The Democratic Party grew up in a systematically racist political culture.  The Democratic Party was founded by slave owners, financial supported by slave owners.  The party's political platforms supported slavery.  Seven Democratic presidents owned slaves.  Democrats in Congress opposed the 13th Amendment that abolished slavery, the 14th amendment that gave Blacks due process and the 15th amendment that gave them the right to vote.  The KKK was even an arm of the democrats.  All thru  history of our country the democrats have been the party of racism, NOT THE REPUBLICANS.

I have never even considered that colored people were to dumb to get a voting ID or look something upon the internet, but today's democrats think that.  In fact, race is still at the very core of the Democratic Party who are consumed by a culture of racial supremacy, everything and everyone is judged by race.  Today's "identity politics" is the offspring of segregation and slavery.

Yes I see why the left thinks the US is systemically racist, because their party is the Party of Race, race and racism are in the party's DNA.

useful idiots 



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Msg ID: 2692702 So Who Are These People? Hint, They Aren't "Libs"... +3/-1     
Author:Jett
6/15/2021 10:57:32 AM

Reply to: 2692694

They are Extreme Right Old Dude, remember Charlottesville, these are your brothers...

 








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Msg ID: 2692709 I Don’t Claim White Supremacists In The  +1/-2     
Author:obumazombie
6/15/2021 11:15:08 AM

Reply to: 2692702

Conservative wing. You libz can have them.
Especially those wearing klan outfits, since the klan was part and parcel of the democrat party.

But either way, those guys aren't in charge, and upholding lib policies.

You libz are.

So you haven't refuted one whit of what Old Guy just posted.

E for effort.

P for participation.

But now it's time to go to your safe space and plan another...

 

Good job Goodlibs !



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Msg ID: 2692711 So Who Are These People? Hint, They Aren't "Libs"... +1/-3     
Author:Old Guy
6/15/2021 11:21:31 AM

Reply to: 2692702

My guess is you have NO idea what party they support or who any of them voted for.

 I can tell you this, their number is very small, not worthy of your obsession.  I think you are sick, and deep down feel very guilty of your very own racism.  



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Msg ID: 2692731 So Who Are These People? Hint, They Aren't "Libs"... +3/-0     
Author:TheCrow
6/15/2021 12:57:11 PM

Reply to: 2692711

"My guess is you have NO idea what party they support or who any of them voted for."

Do I know who they voted for? There are some strong indications who these "very fine people" most probably vote for- it ain't Biden or the Democratic Party.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A Ku Klux Klan newspaper has declared support for Donald Trump’s Republican run for U.S. president, saying America became great because it was a white, Christian republic.

 
Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump holds a campaign event in Miami, Florida U.S. November 2, 2016. REUTERS/Carlo Allegri

The Crusader, one of the white supremacist group’s most prominent publications, published a lengthy endorsement and defense of Trump’s message on the front page of its current issue under the headline: “Make America Great Again.”

“Make America Great Again” is Trump’s campaign slogan.

The Trump campaign rejected the group’s support. In a statement, campaign spokesman Steven Cheung said, “Mr. Trump and the campaign denounces hate in any form. This publication is repulsive and their views do not represent the tens of millions of Americans who are uniting behind our campaign.”

 

The KKK is the oldest white supremacist group in the United States, tracing its roots back to the Reconstruction period in the South that followed the Civil War. In addition to anti-black views, it has expressed anti-Semitic, anti-immigrant and anti-gay views and, until recently, was anti-Roman Catholic.

Earlier this year, former KKK leader David Duke of Louisiana voiced support for Trump, saying white people are threatened in America and that he hears echoes of his views in Trump’s rhetoric.

Trump drew criticism in February for failing to quickly disavow support from Duke.

 

Some critics have condemned as racist Trump’s call for limiting Muslim immigration, building a wall along the border with Mexico and criticism of a Mexican-American judge.

In The Crusader, Pastor Thomas Robb wrote, “While Trump wants to make America great again, we have to ask ourselves, ‘What made America great in the first place?’

“America was great not because of what our forefathers did -but because of who our forefathers were. America was founded as a White Christian Republic. And as a White Christian Republic it became great,” Robb wrote.

Robb, based in Arkansas, heads the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, which took over in the 1980s after the departure of Duke, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks hates groups.

Reporting by Mohammad Zargham; Editing by Jonathan Oatis



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Msg ID: 2692727 America is and always has been systematically racist.  +2/-0     
Author:TheCrow
6/15/2021 12:42:17 PM

Reply to: 2692694

African slavery held that those enslaved were of a lesser humanity, if human beings at all. That lead to African Americand being viewed as lesser peoples by Americans in general, North and South, liberal and conservative alike. As time passed those holding that view have diminished but the culture of racism is built into the system.

Examples:

a young black male is five times as likely to be incarcerated as a young white male;

the average African American family has a net worth between an eighth and a tenth of the average white family;

only 3% of the top 1% is black versus 13.4% of the American population.



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Msg ID: 2692729 Parts Of American Instituted Slavery, Mostly… +1/-2     
Author:obumazombie
6/15/2021 12:50:09 PM

Reply to: 2692727

In the democrat controlled south.

Of the slave holders, 3,500 black slave owners owned 10,000 slaves, sold to them by black tribes in Africa.

That wasn't systematically racist.

That was systematically anti human rights.

Quit trying to help, lib.

You are helping us to ruin and death, lib.

Find someone else you hate, and go help them to ruin and death.

Or better yet, help bring ruin and death to your...

 

Good job Goodlibs!



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Msg ID: 2692746 Enslavement existed in all the states formed after the American Revolution. +1/-2     
Author:TheCrow
6/15/2021 1:53:48 PM

Reply to: 2692729

Enslavement existed in all the states formed after the American Revolution. ALL of them, New York, Massachussets

 

New England Colonies' Use of Slavery

Although slavery ended earlier in the North than in the South (which would keep its slave culture alive and thriving through the Emancipation Proclamation and the Civil War), colonial New England played an undeniable role in the long and grim history of American slavery.

 

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Conversations about slavery in the United States frequently center on the South and the Civil War. Yet the roots of slavery in the New World go much deeper than that—back to the original British colonies, including the northernmost in New England. New England would later become known for its abolitionist leaders and its role in helping formerly enslaved Southern blacks and those escaping slavery. However, the colonies had a history of using enslaved and indentured labor to create and build their economies.

The Origins of American Slavery

The concept of slavery was hardly a new one when English colonists reached North American shores. It had been practiced in Europe for more than a century. The arrival of Africans in Virginia in 1619 was merely the beginning of human trafficking between Africa and North America based on the social norms of Europe.

While slavery grew exponentially in the South with large plantations, slavery in New England was different. Most enslaved people in the North did not live in large communities, as enslaved people did in the mid-Atlantic colonies and the South. Those Southern economies depended upon slavery to provide labor and keep the massive tobacco and rice farms running. New England did not have such large plantations. There, it was more typical to have one or two enslaved individuals attached to a household, business, or small farm.

In New England, it was common for enslaved people to learn specialized skills and crafts due to the area's more varied economy. Ministers, doctors, and merchants also used enslaved labor to work alongside them and run their households. As in the South, enslaved men were frequently forced into heavy or farm labor. Enslaved women were frequently forced to work as household servants. This was very different from the South, where women often performed agricultural work.

New England's Forced Laborers

Part of the reason slavery evolved differently in New England was the culture of indentured servitude. As a carryover from English practice, indentured servants were the original standard for forced labor in New England. These indentured servants were white Europeans voluntarily working off debts. Usually, they had signed a contract to perform slave-level labor for four to seven years. More than half of the original population of the North American colonies was brought over as indentured servants.

New England colonies were also slower to accept African slavery in general. One reason for this was that there were local alternatives to African slaves. Early in New England's history, a different kind of human trafficking emerged: enslaving and shipping local Native Americans to the West Indies. This kind of slavery was limited compared to the number of African slaves and indentured servants that eventually came to New England. Nevertheless, kidnapping and enslaving these native people was an undeniable part of early New England human trafficking.

Enslaved Africans were quickly forced to replace indentured servants on plantations in Virginia, Maryland, and other Southern colonies. In New England, however, people imported for enslaved labor were initially given the same status as indentured servants. This changed, however, in 1641. That year, the Massachusetts Bay Colony passed laws for enslaved people differentiating enslaved labor from the indentured servants' contract labor. As a result, enslaved people in the colony lost the few rights they had previously had.

Still, the New England colonies began to show differences in their approaches to slavery. This was true even as slavery became more common in some colonies. The colonial government in Rhode Island tried, though ultimately failed, to enforce laws that would have extended certain rights to the enslaved. Such laws would have given enslaved individuals the same rights as indentured servants and set the enslaved free after 10 years of service. These first moves to break up human trafficking foreshadowed what was to come in the New England colonies.

Becoming the "Free North"

The use of slavery throughout the colonies (particularly the Southern ones) continued to grow throughout the 18th century. As the colonies moved closer to revolution against England, though, things began to change. There was a growing trend of questioning slavery in New England. The number of those freed from slavery in New England grew, as the enslaved who fought in the Revolutionary War (both sides) were offered freedom.

Religious societies like the Quakers (who believed that slavery was sinful) began the first anti-slavery movements in New England. These early movements were extremely influential. They would later form the backbone of the 19th-century abolitionist movements that would spread throughout the United States.

New England governments began to step in as well, outlawing active human trafficking in the Connecticut and Rhode Island colonies. However, few colonial leaders wanted a full repeal of slavery at the time. It was not until late into the Revolutionary War period that the former New England colonies began outlawing slavery fully. Vermont was first, in 1777, followed by Massachusetts (1781), New Hampshire (1783), Connecticut (1784), and Rhode Island (1784). By 1840, all New England states were "free" states.

New England Colonies' Use of Slavery

Lacking large-scale plantations, New England did not have the same level of demand for slave labor as the South. But slavery still existed there until well into the 19th century. Ships in Boston Seaport sailed enslaved Africans along the Atlantic and throughout the Caribbean.



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Msg ID: 2692762 So What? The Record Is Very Clear That … +1/-2     
Author:obumazombie
6/15/2021 2:57:16 PM

Reply to: 2692746

Not only did you not refute my former post, you tried to obfuscate the truth of my post.

Quit trying to help those minorities inferior to you, lib.

You are helping us to death, lib.

Find someone else o help to ruin and death, lib.

Good job Goodlibs!



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Msg ID: 2692766 An interesting twist on Goebbel's "Big Lie". Repeat it enough and you belie +1/-1     
Author:TheCrow
6/15/2021 3:17:05 PM

Reply to: 2692762

An interesting twist on Goebbel's "Big Lie". Repeat it enough and you believe it yourself.

You reveal yourself again as a bigot-

"Quit trying to help those minorities inferior to you, lib."

Your usual assignment of an individual trait to an entire group.



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Msg ID: 2692771 I Assigned An Individual Trait To You, lib … +1/-1     
Author:obumazombie
6/15/2021 3:41:35 PM

Reply to: 2692766

You consider yourself to be superior in every way to minorities, and that without your help, we could not survive and thrive in the world, lib.

We don't need your help, lib.

You are helping us to ruin.

You are helping us to death.

Quit helping, lib.

By quitting helping, you will be ACTUALLY helping.

That is assuming that you want the improvement in the lot of life for minorities.

Based on your actions and results, that would not be a safe assumption.

It might be a safe assumption to the extent that it involves a...

 

Good job Goodlibs!



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Msg ID: 2692774 Right back to the irrational assertions and name calling. (NT) +1/-1     
Author:TheCrow
6/15/2021 4:01:18 PM

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Msg ID: 2692802 I See. You Calling Me A Bigot, Is Me Calling… +1/-2     
Author:obumazombie
6/15/2021 7:04:33 PM

Reply to: 2692774

You names.

That's how it works in libland, right, lib?
Good job Goodlibs!



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Msg ID: 2692737 Crow, only you and the left is racist  +2/-3     
Author:Old Guy
6/15/2021 1:16:30 PM

Reply to: 2692727

Your party is racist, always has been.

People on the right are not obsessed with race.  The right went two war over slavery, voted in amendments to correct injustice, and pursur an equal opportunity for all.

if African Americans have issues you can only look at the Democratic Party!

I asked you once what the democrats have done, all you could respond was the voting rights bill, and many of the democrats voted NO.  The democrats from the start are racist and still think they are superior to blacks.  
useful idiot 



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