Msg ID:
2693069 |
To crow from below (NT) +1/-2
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Author:Old Guy
6/17/2021 2:59:29 PM
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Msg ID:
2693081 |
(NT) and no logic (NT) +2/-1
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Author:TheCrow
6/17/2021 3:15:44 PM
Reply to: 2693069
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Msg ID:
2693085 |
To crow from below +2/-3
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Author:Old Guy
6/17/2021 3:23:49 PM
Reply to: 2693069
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I have more than once posted that democrats are responsible for the economic inequalities. You have never posted back any reason that shows they are not.
So I will start this out. First is the failure of the black family. You are aware that before welfare that only 7% of black children were born out of wedlock, now it is 76%. Welfare has programs that give the single woman better benefits than the core family, it has created a family without the dad. Thank you democrats for the absence of the father in the black community predisposing it's children to school failure, criminal behavior and economic hardships. you voted for it. I am not say to stop welfare, but there are thousands of better ways!
there are lots of reasons dem created this problem, who about one more. Minimum Wage.
Did you know that before minimum wages that the unemployment rate between white and blacks was the same. The Minimum wage act is maybe the most racist bill the democrats supports. Oh! Maybe it was the Davis-Bacon labor laws, both were voted on to help keep colored people out of the workforce. Look at the unemployment rat, looks like it is working. If the minimum wage goes up to $15.00 you will see the number of unemployment blacks will also go up. Minimum wage is racist to the core!
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Msg ID:
2693183 |
To crow from below +1/-0
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Author:TheCrow
6/18/2021 9:55:33 AM
Reply to: 2693085
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"So I will start this out. First is the failure of the black family. You are aware that before welfare that only 7% of black children were born out of wedlock, now it is 76%."
Perhaps you could cite or post your source? What I can find does demonstrate an increase in 'out of wedlock' births, but not at the rate you quote. For instance this graph is a little dated but indicates a less dramatic trend line:
Notice that it shows 'White' births almost doubling in the period, Hispanic increasing by about 50% and Black increasing by 10%.
The following is per thousand unwed birthsin the years 1965 to 1984. But it, too, does not support the increase you allege. Your source could demonstrate otherwise....
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Msg ID:
2693184 |
Forgot to cite the source of the second graph "An analysis of out-of-wedloc +1/-1
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Author:TheCrow
6/18/2021 9:57:37 AM
Reply to: 2693183
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Forgot to cite the source of the second graph "An analysis of out-of-wedlock births in the United States" |
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Msg ID:
2693196 |
I Recall A Very Recent Thread That Old Guy… +1/-1
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Author:obumazombie
6/18/2021 11:31:06 AM
Reply to: 2693184
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Called you out on.
You accused me of lying, stealing, and plagiarism, even though the author was cited.
And even though you were given 2 very gracious opportunities to retract your slander, you refused, and continued to falsely accuse me.
I use that as a basis to call you a plagiarist, thief, and a liar, because you did not cite a source.
If you graciously give me 2 opportunities to retract my accusations, I might avail myself of one of those opportunities, because I am better than you, as most conservatives are better people than almost all libz.
Right plagiarist? A lib who plagiarizes, is a lib in the midst of a...
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Msg ID:
2693191 |
To crow from below +2/-1
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Author:TheCrow
6/18/2021 10:20:08 AM
Reply to: 2693085
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I agree that minimum wage laws are ill-advised and frequently, if not mostly, counter-productive. It's insane to think Congress should set a law requiring somebody be paid much more than their worth. It has demonstrably rediced job numbers and kept those kept unemployed from starting productive lives.
"Did you know that before minimum wages that the unemployment rate between white and blacks was the same." I would be very interested in reading your source.
There is some argument about the racial effect, headline and brief excerpt:
ShutterstockHigh school students, union activists, and fast food workers rallying in New York City to demand a $15/hour federal minimum wage, April 2015.
Overview
The minimum wage is one of the primary tools for raising the wages of low-income workers. This was the case at its inception in some states in the early 20th century, as a key federal component of the New Deal reforms during the Great Depression, and today, amid the coronavirus recession. Importantly, though, reforms in the 1960s turned the minimum wage into a critical tool for decreasing the wage divides between Black and White workers because Black Americans were overrepresented among low-wage workers who were not initially covered by the federal minimum wage. Yet those reforms six decades ago are now increasingly unable to address racial income inequality without keeping pace with inflation and economic growth.
Indeed, the coronavirus recession demonstrates how persistent disparities in economic security by race and ethnicity are exacerbated in a crisis. Black and Latinx households today are more likely to report a loss in income and difficulty paying expenses. And the tenuous partial recovery of the U.S. labor market since the start of the current recession now appears to have stalled, leaving Black and Latinx workers with significantly elevated unemployment in the double digits.
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Msg ID:
2693193 |
To crow from below +1/-1
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Author:Old Guy
6/18/2021 11:06:07 AM
Reply to: 2693191
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Crow, I can assure you that if benefits for single mothers would change and there was NO loss of benefits if people got married, this completely would change. So, I see you noticed that poor people come in all colors! No systematic racism here.
I can also believe that if the minimum wage was discontinued, and anyone could use open negotiations for wages that unemployment differences would diminish. Wages would be settled on the supply and demand system. The young could negotiate with lower wades to gain employment experience, others could negotiate for higher wages because of experience.
Education is one more way the democrats have created the economic disparitiy. The public school system sucks and school vouchers would really help solve this problem. Just the competition for education dollars would cause all education to improve. But No! Democrats can't support anything but public education. All of my family goes to private school and any family could do the same and take advantage of better education if the democrats cared more about kids education than the teachers Union. |
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Msg ID:
2693206 |
You are aware that before welfare that only 7% of black children were born +1/-1
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Author:TheCrow
6/18/2021 12:41:10 PM
Reply to: 2693193
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"You are aware that before welfare that only 7% of black children were born out of wedlock, now it is 76%. Welfare has programs that give the single woman better benefits than the core family, it has created a family without the dad."
You maintain that welfare has destroyed the African American family, but that's not racism?
"Crow, I can assure you that if benefits for single mothers would change and there was NO loss of benefits if people got married, this completely would change. So, I see you noticed that poor people come in all colors! No systematic racism here."
The ADC benefits are not for the unwed mother. They are specifically for the child/children, she is commonly the guardian that receives the funds, but they are not 'hers'. Y'all back on that 'welfare queen' track, aintcha?
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Msg ID:
2693210 |
Welfare Is A Great Society (Dem) Program… +1/-2
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Author:obumazombie
6/18/2021 12:49:08 PM
Reply to: 2693206
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Designed to buy votes for lib/dems, and is propagated in dem controlled cities.
Conceived by libz, administered by libz, perpetuated by libz.
Aid to women and dependent women, and all other such forms of welfare are for the mother, by default. Your argument otherwise is demagoguery, which you libz are expert at.
Keeping your vote buying peasants on your lib plantation is a...
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Msg ID:
2693219 |
34 of the last 50 years had Republican Presidencies. (NT) +1/-0
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Author:TheCrow
6/18/2021 1:06:50 PM
Reply to: 2693210
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Msg ID:
2693222 |
Driveby +1/-1
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Author:obumazombie
6/18/2021 1:11:00 PM
Reply to: 2693219
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Good job Goodlibs! |
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Msg ID:
2693223 |
"Driveby" Oh my. (NT) +1/-1
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Author:TheCrow
6/18/2021 1:11:34 PM
Reply to: 2693222
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Msg ID:
2693211 |
Really! +1/-2
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Author:Old Guy
6/18/2021 12:50:01 PM
Reply to: 2693206
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Yes! Welfare has helped destroy the African American family, how is that belief racist?
You got that figured out do you, sure the payment is for the kids (let's have more, more money, more money). But that money is paid to the mon! Are you really defending this program? Can't you see how it destroys the family? |
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