It's amazing that Trump has been able to con some of you into believing what he says 

his whole life he has been a con man pathological liar. He has lied about everything large and small, has always looked out for himself, and even stole from his own charity.

He ran for President because of the publicity, and as his own advisors, multiple said including bolton, he always made decisions in the context how it would affect the vote. He never did things for the right reasons or what was in the best interest of the country.

When he got COVID, he lied about the severity and even secretly got the vaccine without telling anyone. He admitted to playing down the severity of COVID, and the sheep on this forum, old guy, Pooty, and zombie believed the assertion that he didn't want people to panic. Well, that argument Is again to cover up his lies. Other countries educated their citizens and thus had a much lower infection rate.

now we go to the election. The vp of the United States and the president of the senate emphatically stated the election was fair and there was no fraud. Countless law suits, many heard in front of Trump appointed Republican judges, stated zero fraud.

So, now we have the umpteenth recount in Arizona. The sheep on this board don't realize why it's being done.

it's being done by a completely unknown auditing company so that if by chance they come to some conclusion, the the Grumpy Trumpies have a TALKING POINT. Some trumpies know Trump lost and some aren't sure and some believe the lie. They need a propaganda piece to keep the lie going.

People like Old guy and flipper actually believe the election was stolen. You know what, I agree with them. It was stolen in 2016 when the trump campaign shared internal granular polling data that they acquired from a company they contracted with, with a Russian government employee, at which point the Russians created a smear campaign against Hillary that tipped the scales.

So, the sheep on here enjoy being handled, enjoy being fed utter nonsense and disinformation, and have the need to SEEK OUT fake newas to support their distortions and egos. They would rather keep the lie going in their heads and protect their egos and world view rather than face the cold hard truth; they have been wrong and defrauded by Trump 

For me it happened during the collapse of Detroit, I recognized that everything the left touches it ruined.  You are hard pressed to find any successful place or even program ran by the left that is successful.  
The only way is to use your very low expectations.  

reality is the left ruins everything it touches!

Sure, hold democratic governors responsible for everything that goes wrong, but when America has the worst response to covid in the world, as evidenced by the highest infection rates, it has nothing to do with Trump.

When you drop the hypocricy, rejoin the convo Old Guy.

Trump is by far the worst thing that ever happened to this country, bar none. Couldnt' be any happier that he is gone gone gone goodbye.

This coming from a person that lives in a states that virus was so poorly managed that it's death rate per was the second highest in the world.  OH! I am in error, New Jersey was 297,  you beat New York after all.  At least you are number one in something.

And by your post you would prefer to live under the government in your state.  A state that is rated the 48th worst state in the nation.  Good choice! 

Useful idiot