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Msg ID: 2695094 To Bladeslap  +2/-2     
Author:Old Guy
7/4/2021 1:21:09 PM

You are aware that these charges against Trump Companies stand NO chance.  It is basically about perks that a employee gets, that should or should not be reported as income by the employees.

 I think of it as the "I am going to go to, deal".   You get a free ride on a company plane, ( or your wife goes" but do you report the benefit as income on your taxes.  "You should".  What about even the company getting the tab for your lunch "company perk", did you add it to your taxes.  Company perks can be large sum and tax code very mirky.  Nobody gets charged for this!  

I asked you about flying as a corporate pilot, because if you do, you already know the issues.  When is the flight not a perk or benefit, when is it personal use.  When does it go on your taxes, as income.

These charges are BS, and at worst some money will clear some of it up, most of it will get thrown out of court.

 

 



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Msg ID: 2695141 To Bladeslap  +2/-1     
Author:obumazombie
7/4/2021 10:39:55 PM

Reply to: 2695094

These rubes are stuck on the every night side show CNN et al put on about the walls closing in, there's nowhere to run, there's nowhere to hide, he's on the run, etc ad nauseum.

Every single allegation turned out to be totally manufactured along with emoluments, and everything but the kitchen sink that libz threw out at Trump in pure hatred.

They put their hopes every night in hare brains like Rachael Madcow and the whole newsrooms full of so called journalists who promised the most current so called scandal would bring Trump down.

But each one vaporized along with the libz darkest desires, and left nothing but yet another gut punch to the naive libz.

False story promising removal after false story brought body blow after body blow to the gullible libz.

You would think by this time that the libz twice bitten would be once shy, but no.

They lower their guard to let body blow after body blow rain down like lib lies on a prayer rug sold as a flying carpet.

The libz are so desperate to say they told us so, that their bodies will be pulverized like a side of beef during Rocky Balboa's meat freezer workout.

Keep absorbing the punishment, libz, this time is has to work out for you and not end up yet another...

 

Good job Goodlibs!



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Msg ID: 2695143 He who laughs last, laughs loudest...  +2/-1     
Author:Jett
7/4/2021 10:44:25 PM

Reply to: 2695141

It's way too early to make the absurd claims you are making, this game is just getting started...



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Msg ID: 2695145 What Game, lib? The Body Blow Game You… +1/-2     
Author:obumazombie
7/4/2021 10:49:41 PM

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libz have absorbed for nearly 5 years, lib?
Your torsos must be sore and bruised by now lib.

It probably helps tha5 you libz purposely have short memories of your myriad failures.

Even those failures that turn into a...

 

Good job Goodlibs!



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Msg ID: 2695147 Oh no, I'd say we are just getting warmed up... (NT) +2/-1     
Author:Jett
7/4/2021 10:51:40 PM

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Msg ID: 2695157 Company Perks +2/-1     
Author:bladeslap
7/5/2021 10:00:30 AM

Reply to: 2695094

they absolutely do stand a very good chance of sticking. When a company gives an apartment, someone has to pay taxes on that as income. That's the tax law. If the Trump organization didn't pay taxes and Weisel Berg didn't pay taxes then it's tax fraud. Plain and simple

and for your information, whenever our principles use the aircraft for personal reasons, they pay the direct operating cost for the airplanes. I know that because I was in a meeting when they discussed how it was going to work. They do this to protect themselves against exactly what's happening to Trump right now. So there's your answer old guy



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Msg ID: 2695158 Company Perks +1/-2     
Author:obumazombie
7/5/2021 10:09:08 AM

Reply to: 2695157

So now you are a tax lawyer.

In addition to being a scientist, a mod, a YouTube expert, and a scientific pollster.

Anything else you claim to be an expert about?
I mean that of course, you are an expert on a...

 

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Msg ID: 2695171 "So now you are a tax lawyer." I'm betting that the prosecution ARE 'tax +2/-1     
Author:TheCrow
7/5/2021 12:24:17 PM

Reply to: 2695158

"So now you are a tax lawyer." I'm betting that the prosecution ARE 'tax lawyers' and they believe they have a strong case and evidence to back it.

Trump's businesses have akways been run as he wishes despite any regulations, until the prosecuted into compliance.

 

The Trump Organization Is in Big Trouble

The indictments of the business and its CFO allege not some minor technical mistakes, but blatant violations of the law.

Artwork depicting money, Donald Trump, and Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg
Brendan Smialowski / AFP / Getty; Timothy A. Clary / AFP / Getty; The Atlantic
JULY 2, 2021

About the author: Daniel Hemel is a professor at the University of Chicago Law School and a visiting professor at New York University School of Law.

If the facts alleged in yesterday’s indictment are true, the Trump Organization and its longtime chief financial officer, Allen Weisselberg, have engaged in blatant tax evasion for more than a decade.

Early reports characterized the crime in question as involving “fringe benefits.” This gives entirely the wrong impression. The Trump Organization and Weisselberg aren’t being charged with tripping over some hyper-technical provision on the margins of the tax system. They are being charged with blatantly violating basic tax-law requirements—and bilking New York State and New York City out of hundreds of thousands of dollars along the way.

Probably the strongest allegation relates to an apartment on Riverside Boulevard in Manhattan where Weisselberg lives with his wife. According to the indictment, the Trump Corporation—one of the Trump Organization’s many business entities—paid roughly $100,000 a year in rent, utility bills, and garage expenses for this apartment starting in 2005. The Trump Corporation allegedly didn’t report those payments as compensation on Weisselberg’s W-2 forms, and Weisselberg allegedly didn’t include those amounts in income on his own tax returns.

But the Trump Organization did, according to the indictment, maintain a separate set of books that accounted for the payments as part of Weisselberg’s compensation. Notably, when the Trump Corporation paid Weisselberg’s rent, according to the indictment, the Trump Organization reduced Weisselberg’s salary by a corresponding amount. (Both Weisselberg and the Trump Organization pleaded not guilty yesterday.)

One can describe this as a “fringe benefit”—a tax-law term for any payment for services that is not part of stated compensation—but it’s also plain old tax fraud. Under federal and New York State tax law, lodging provided by an employer to an employee is part of the employee’s gross income. There are limited exceptions to this rule—for example, if the employee is required to live on the employer’s business premises as part of the job, or if the employer is a religious institution and the employee is a clergy member. But Weisselberg wasn’t living on Trump Organization premises because of some business need (and Trumpism is only metaphorically a religion). And if the Trump Organization was keeping a separate set of books recording compensation that it didn’t report to tax authorities, then this was no unintentional oversight.

The allegations related to Weisselberg’s apartment are quantitatively the most significant—amounting to nearly $1.2 million in untaxed income from 2005 to 2017—but yesterday’s indictment includes several other examples of brazen tax evasion. For example, it’s black-letter law that when an employer pays educational expenses for an employee’s family, those amounts are income to the employee and subject to tax (absent a specific statutory exception, such as for employees of educational institutions). Nonetheless, Donald Trump allegedly paid private-school tuition for two of Weisselberg’s grandchildren—signing his own name on checks that amounted to nearly $360,000 from 2012 to 2017. The Trump Organization and Weisselberg should have reported those payments as part of Weisselberg’s wages but, according to the indictment, didn’t.

Likewise, it’s crystal clear that an employee’s personal use of a company-provided vehicle is taxable income. But according to the indictment, the Trump Corporation made nearly $200,000 in lease payments on two Mercedes-Benz automobiles driven by Weisselberg and his wife. Again, per the indictment, the Trump Organization and Weisselberg hid those payments from tax authorities. All the while, the Trump Organization tracked the tuition expenses and the Mercedes-Benz leases as compensation to Weisselberg in its separate set of books.

This is the type of conduct that puts other people behind bars. The investment banker Richard Josephberg was sentenced to four years in prison in 2007 for—among other tax-law violations—having a business pay for his homes in Westchester County, New York, and Greenwich, Connecticut, and then failing to report those payments as income. Leona Helmsley, the late real-estate billionaire and Trump friend-turned-enemy, was sentenced to four years in prison for essentially the same thing: having her company pay to renovate her Greenwich mansion and then failing to report those payments as income. (The U.S. attorney who brought the federal case against Helmsley was, incidentally, Trump’s future personal lawyer Rudolph Giuliani.)

Usually, these types of tax crimes are prosecuted at the federal level. But state tax-fraud prosecutions are not unheard of. Helmsley was indicted on state tax-fraud charges before she was prosecuted federally. According to yesterday’s indictment, New York City and New York State lost out on nearly $345,000 in taxes owed by Weisselberg. And when New York Attorney General Letitia James opened her probe of the Trump Organization more than a year ago, both the IRS and the Justice Department were answerable to Trump himself. New York prosecutors took up this case at a time when their federal counterparts very likely wouldn’t.

James, to be sure, has a powerful political incentive to pursue criminal charges against individuals and entities in the Trump orbit. During her 2018 campaign for state attorney general, she said that the then-president should be charged criminally. And if James can nail an ex-president who is deeply unpopular in his former home state, she will be the odds-on favorite for governor in 2022. (James hasn’t announced her candidacy for governor, but as recently as last week, she declined to rule out a run.)

Yesterday’s indictment may be part of a strategy to flip Weisselberg and use him as a witness against his former boss. But if the allegations in the indictment are true, Weisselberg is no innocent bystander in a battle between James and Trump. The indictment paints him as a financially sophisticated and well-compensated CFO of a sprawling commercial enterprise who went to great lengths to cheat on his taxes and now faces the consequences.

So yes, this is a politically tinged prosecution. But if the allegations in the indictment are true, it’s also out-and-out tax fraud—conduct that is criminal beyond question. Being connected to a controversial political figure shouldn’t send you to jail. It shouldn’t get you off the hook either.

 
 
 
 
 


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Msg ID: 2695184 I read non-partisan factual data +3/-1     
Author:bladeslap
7/5/2021 2:18:37 PM

Reply to: 2695158

You just read the alt-right rags. I try to learn facts and truth by looking at non partisan facts. Amazing eh?

https://cvsimply.medium.com/when-is-employee-housing-taxable-to-the-employee-1b1c7fb3f974

Do a little reading and you may arrive at the same conclusion. Don't look at Brietbart either.

I know, hard for you to believe the charges may be real, zombie.

Happy 4th

 



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Msg ID: 2695225 “non-partisan” “ factual data” +1/-2     
Author:obumazombie
7/5/2021 10:39:15 PM

Reply to: 2695184

I left out "I read".

Nice gaslight attempt, lib.

Good job Goodlibs!



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Msg ID: 2695185 And I believe the people prosecurting him ARE tax lawyers +4/-1     
Author:bladeslap
7/5/2021 2:19:18 PM

Reply to: 2695158

But that little detail escaped you. 

You know more than everybody, so they most be wrong.



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