There are two groups of people in America, those who are fully vaccinated and those who refuse vaccinations. As an American those who for what ever reason choose not to be vaccinated are free to do so, that doesn't mean those of us who are fully vaccinated have to expose ourselves and our health to their selfish ideals.

It's time for responsible people to be able to go to work in a safe environment free from the "Anti-Vaxxers" and the same goes for dining at a restaurant or flying on a plane. Don't expose me to COVID due to your self serving issues. 

Extreme Right people have the right to establish "Anti-Vaxxer" restaurants, shops, etc. Just make sure they are clearly identified as such so people know what type of an establishment it is.

Those who wish to be responsible about their health and the health of all citizens should not be forced to deal with or be exposed to COVID by the Extreme Right...       

Obviously you do not believe the vaccine works and keeps you safe.  if you did it would not matter what other people do, you are safe!  But you must not trust that

Most on the Extreme Right don't, you view it as a personal freedom issue, nothing could be further from the truth, it's a public health and safety issue. I'm not going to waste my time trying to educate you on either, there is a mountain of information out there, educate yourself. 

Don't you think the vaccine works?

The vaccine has been proven to work. FDA approval yesterday. It's not perfect, only about 95% effective in reducing severe infections, the kind that hospitalize you, the kind that feature high viral loading and spreading.

Oh, but only 95%? And you could still be sick after vaccination, infect others? Yes, kind of like the asymptomatic infections that occurred before the vaccine. 

I'm guessing you've got most of the other common vaccinations. Why is this different? 

Why is Covid 19 politically more reactive than the flu? Because Trump made asinine statements early on? And now you must defend those statements even though The Donald has shifted his position?

Covid 19 is culling the herd.

Crowd boos Donald Trump when he recommends taking COVID vaccines

I can't say how many times I have heard that exact same question from Extreme Righties.

"Well your vaccinated, what are you worried about?" 

"So your saying the vaccines don't work?"

All they are really doing is telling us that they are either totally clueless about COVID and vaccines, or they are parroting the Extreme Right line. 

But which ever it is, it equals stupidity...  

There is so much I wish you understood about the vaccine and Covid

1. In areas of the country where the vaccine rate is low, the ICUs are full or nearly full with unvaccinated COVID patients. People who need to go to the ICU because of heart attack, stroke, etc etc cannot because the unvaccinated thought they "new better" - Perhaps if you decide not to get the vaccine, then sign a DNR that says that if you come down with covid, you will not take a hospital bed that may be needed by someone that has something that was not preventable.

2. The vaccine prevents most people from getting the virus, and if you do get it, it dramatically lowers the viral load and hence chance of passing it on to someone else

3. The more people who are unvaccinated, the higher the viral replication and the higher the chance of mutations that will lead to more variants and more people potentially dying

Finally, the independent experts who recommended approval to the FDA are from all areas of expertise including virology, immunology, infectious disease, etc etc - These are the leading experts in the country and perhaps the world -

Get your Jab and protect others and stop thinking this is all about you; it's about everybody.

Bladeslap your points are good it is basically what I think, do not know if it is factual.  Not sure that if you have the jab that it lowers the viral load, I think you are just as contagious as people without the jab.  My understanding if sufficiently exposed to the virus, a mask or jab isn't going to stop you from getting it.  The jab will help with recovery, you may not even need medical care.  The jab can cause a heart problem, European Medicine Agency also confirms heart issues.  But it would be good to get the shot as long as your doctor agrees, you do not have immunity already, and it is not against a religion or choice of freedom.

you are wrong about getting the jab to protect others, you get the jab to help protect yourself.  If others want some kind of protection they should get their own jab.  Face the facts, if you have the jab and can still get the virus anyway, so who are you protecting.

At least you did not point out that the government should require the Jab and some kind of card carrying.  That would be wrong!

I have read two different studies that covered the virus load and after the jab.  One study says it MAY decrease the load and the other study claimed the jab decreases the virus load by as much as 40%.  So there is a chance that if you have a jab and get the virus there is a small reduction of virus load.  But NONE of this is 100%, you are still taking a chance if you are around someone contagious, regardless who has a mask or jab.

I don't agree with government requiring a vaccine card, that is a job better served by the private sector. It is critically important for private companies, restaurants, gyms, airlines, stores, etc. to require proof of vaccination to enter and safely enjoy their privileges.

Those who don't get the jab should be excluded for the safety of others.

As an added bonus it gives us the opportunity to ostracize the Extreme Righties who are off the deep end and are the cause of us not being able to get COVID under control. 

Freedom requires responsibility!      

If the private sector requires some kind of card to prove you had the jab, who issues that card?   What about that restaurant, gym, airline, etc. prove to me that none of their employees have any disease.  Should they not have a list of all the medical records of the employees to view before I enter the business.  Let's be fair about this, many diseases to list, if you are going to control it, control it all.

 "Let's be fair about this, many diseases to list, if you are going to control it, control it all." 

That's irrational. I hope you don't live by that maxim- if you can't help everybody don't help anybody. A really good example of the god, a rephrasing of a Voltaire passage: "Le mieux est l'ennemi du bien."

Literally, "The best is the enemy of the good."

How about always help anybody you can?

That's what the vax does- it doesn't completely prevent infections, it reduces the incidence of life-threatening illness, which is closely correlated to high virus loads and spreading the virus. Here's an analogy- if you're going to crash your car, would you try to slow down before impact? Is it better to crash at 5 mph or 75 mph?

Reducing your virus load if you're infected is somewhat protecting everybody around you, it reduces your viral bloom.

If this issue had been handled as public health problem from the get go, hundreds of thousands of American lives would have been saved. Instead, President Trump minimized the danger 'in order to avoid panicking America'. Fear is a powerful emotion that can be used productively. Trump invokes fear for his own purposes often.

The exact number is elusive, but most experts agree that somewhere around 90% is the key number, if we as a country were around 90% fully vaccinated, COVID would just go away. A virus is only as good as it's next victim, when it runs out of victims it's done for all practical purposes. 

Your statement that getting the jab is to protect yourself not others is absolutely wrong, you should get your jab to protect yourself and to protect others. When you get your jab you are helping to get our country to a percentage high enough to get rid of COVID which is helping both you and your fellow citizens. Can you put aside the Donnie "It's All About Me" crap for a moment and consider others?

The electronic cards are already being issued by private companies, I have one. Examples are "Clear Health Pass", "IBM Digital Health Pass", "Smart", and others. Businesses in my community are already requiring them to access their services and more are joining daily. I want to be able to dine in a restaurant and know that all of the employees and customers are vaccinated, it makes for a much more relaxing and enjoyable environment, the same goes for airline flights, markets, etc.

No, we don't need to be checking for anything else at this point because only COVID is causing these problems. No, there should be no list of employee medical records at any business, that's private information. COVID vaccinations are different, we need them to protect all. 

Extreme Righties don't have to get their jab, it's not required by law. But it's absolutely right and just to require proof of vaccination in public settings to protect all citizens. 

By the way the last time I checked, I think Idaho was in the top five of the lowest percentage of vaccinated citizens in the country. That's Pathetic, you people should be ashamed of yourselves.

As JFK so rightfully said, "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country"...       

List the names of private companies that require some kind of vaccine passport.  So I can avoid going and or buying from them.  

thank you