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Msg ID: 2705619 Airline Pilot shortage—30% aren’t vaccinated  +1/-3     
Author:Shooting Shark
10/1/2021 1:08:48 PM

Senator Feinstein introduces bill requiring vaccine or negative COVID-19 for domestic flights

 

Vaccines could soon be the ticket to traveling in the United States. Senator Dianne Feinstein has proposed legislation that would require all travelers taking domestic flights to present proof of vaccination or a negative COVID-19test. 

Under the U.S. Air Travel Public Safety Act, the secretary of Health and Human Services and the Federal Aviation Administration would be required to develop national vaccination standards and procedures for air travel.

It would also require the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices to make recommendations for COVID-19 vaccine use in health care settings and among health care personnel in other settings. 

 

"We know that air travel during the 2020 holiday season contributed to last winter's devastating COVID-19 surge. We simply cannot allow that to happen again," the California Democrat said.

"Ensuring that air travelers protect themselves and their destination communities from this disease is critical to prevent the next surge, particularly if we confront new, more virulent variants of COVID-19," she said, similar to requirements already in place for foreign travel. 

"It only makes sense that we also ensure the millions of airline passengers that crisscross our country aren't contributing to further transmission, especially as young children remain ineligible to be vaccinated."

University of California, Hasting Professor Dorit Reiss, who specializes in vaccine law, says the bill stands is constitutional and provides options for the unvaccinated.

"One of the challenges might be you need to include a religious exemption for those who oppose a COVID-19 vaccine. I don't think that will fly and here's why: it has a general exception," Reiss told CBS San Francisco. "People can provide a negative test instead. So people with religious objections to vaccination can instead go and get a negative PCR test. So there's already an exemption built in."

One traveler at San Francisco International Airport told the station the vaccine mandate would make her feel safer. "Now you're packed right next to someone. I don't want to drink on the plane, I don't want to eat on the plane. I'm not taking my mask off, I would feel much more comfortable knowing someone else is vaccinated," said Megan Barton, a nurse practitioner. 

"It's just science. Let's go with science people," traveler Kat Lake said. 

At least one state, Hawaii, requires vaccines or a negative COVID-19 test for domestic airline travelers. American Airlines has an app for people traveling to Hawaii or internationally to upload the necessary documents. 

The airline also said last month that it would not provide special leave to unvaccinated employees who have to quarantine due to COVID-19, Reuters reports.

JetBlue is highly encouraging crew members to get vaccinated for COVID-19, the airline says. The airline pays up to an additional 14 days sick time for any crew member diagnosed with COVID-19.

United Airlines was the first U.S. carrier to require vaccinations for all domestic employees, according to Reuters. This week, the company announced nearly 600 employeeswere being "separated from the company" for not complying.

Delta is also requiring employees to get vaccinated and last week said 82% had done so. Starting September 12, any employee who had not gotten vaccinated was required to take a COVID test each week.

However, pilot unions this week suggested vaccine mandates could cause shortages in the airline industry, CBS News transportation correspondent Errol Barnett reports. 

"If in fact pilots who are not vaccinated are put on unpaid leave or are terminated, that's more than 4,000 pilots in American Airlines that will not be able to fly," said Capt. Dennis Taje, spokesperson for Allied Pilots Association, which includes 15,000 American Airlines pilots. APA's vaccination rate is 70%, Barnett reports. 

APA and Southwest Airline's pilot association are both asking for exemptions before President Joe Biden's executive order mandating vaccines goes into effect. 



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Msg ID: 2705622 Airline Pilot shortage—30% aren’t vaccinated  +1/-2     
Author:Shooting Shark
10/1/2021 1:23:44 PM

Reply to: 2705619

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10047137/amp/Feinstein-introduces-bill-requires-vaccination-negative-test-domestic-airline-travel.html

Just when you thought KCM was the answer to long lines and TSA strip searches!

Good luck stAffing airliners. well maybe thdd Ed decrease in air travel will match the loss of pilots and everything will work out.

might decide to retire and move to Idaho ( seriously!) 

Old Guy and I can build a compound somewhere to keep out all you vaxed lib zombies.

yes, necrotizing brain-matter (zombie-ism) is a side-effect of Pfizer's still "emergency authorized" (by the fda) vaccine. Read the warnings. Studies to continue.

But no funding or HHS support for healthcare providers to report adverse symptoms and reactions.. Science?  (who are you trying to fool)

Zombie apocalypse. At FL 410. 

(I'll walk, or ride my motorcycle, thanks!)

Useful idiots!!



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Msg ID: 2705624 I think it's probably a pretty good reflection on our country as a whole... +3/-1     
Author:Jett
10/1/2021 1:30:52 PM

Reply to: 2705619

Extreme Righties probably make up around 30% of the population. Oh well, it will cause some problems in the mean time but it will work itself out over time. I look at the positive side of it, it will allow us to get the Extreme Righties out of the airline business.

It's a great opportunity to ostracize the Extremists and we should take advantage of it...  



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Msg ID: 2705629 Another reason to mask up in the big aluminum mailing tube. (NT) +2/-0     
Author:TheCrow
10/1/2021 1:40:44 PM

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Msg ID: 2705632 Another reason to mask up in the big aluminum mailing tube. +1/-3     
Author:Shooting Shark
10/1/2021 1:49:18 PM

Reply to: 2705629

Oh yeah, that maskwill save ya! 

(it's like stopping a fly with a chain link fence!)

but don't let a little thing like "microns"

interfere with your hyperventilating

Lib paranoia 

or fake sense of security ( masks) 


As for mRNA vaccines

in all the animal studies

100% of the lab animals died

within (3) three years. 

When did you get your shot?

Useful Idiot! 



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Msg ID: 2705645 Perfect is the enemy of the good. All living things eventually die. +2/-0     
Author:TheCrow
10/1/2021 3:31:22 PM

Reply to: 2705632

Perfect is the enemy of the good. 

All living things eventually die. You just gonna roll over and die, now, because of that inevitability?

A mask will reduce inhaled aerosols, which carry viruses.

The vaccine did reduce the probability of a clinical case of covid at my age by, what? 30, 40 times lesser? Walk away with my winnings....



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Msg ID: 2705735 Another reason to mask up in the big aluminum mailing tube.#2 +3/-0     
Author:TheCrow
10/2/2021 11:58:29 AM

Reply to: 2705632

A social media post has claimed that a peer-reviewed study shows that masks do not protect you against COVID-19 because the virus can be transmitted in aerosol particles. This, however, is misleading.

The post (here) references a study titled: “Viral Load of SARS-CoV-2 in Respiratory Aerosols Emitted by COVID-19 Patients while Breathing, Talking, and Singing”, which found that aerosol transmission plays an important role in driving the COVID-19 pandemic.

Linking to the paper, the Twitter user writes: “New peer-reviewed research arguing COVID primarily spreads through aerosols and is airborne. If true, then your mask didn’t protect you but made you feel safe enough to be exposed without knowing it.”

While the study did find that virus particles spread as aerosols, it also advocates for continued mask wearing.

In the study itself, the researchers concluded that the results supported “calls for proper respiratory protection” in the form of both “universal masking” and N95 and FFP3 respirators for healthcare and frontline workers (here).

And replying to a now-deleted tweet which concluded that since “masks can block droplets, not aerosols”, the paper proves that it was time to abolish all “non-scientific mask mandates”, the study’s lead author reiterated that the results do in fact “support the calls for universal masking” (here).

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the World Health Organization (WHO) both advise that masks should be worn to help reduce the spread of COVID-19(here , here).

Studies (here , here , here) have shown that masks do help block aerosols - though the extent they do so depends on the type of mask.

As this CDC graphic explains (here), the N95 mask filters out at least 95% of airborne particles, both large and small.

Meanwhile, a surgical mask doesn’t offer much protection for the wearer, but is designed instead to protect others against virus particles that are exhaled (here).

VERDICT

Misleading. While the study did find that SARS-CoV-2 spreads as aerosols, this does not mean masks are an ineffective tool in managing the pandemic. A surgical mask is designed instead to protect others against virus particles that are breathed out, while respiratory masks such as the N95 do filter out airborne particles.

This article was produced by the Reuters Fact Check team. Read more about our work to fact-check social media posts here .

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Msg ID: 2705634 I think it's probably a pretty good reflection on our country as a whole... +1/-3     
Author:Shooting Shark
10/1/2021 1:56:44 PM

Reply to: 2705624

What makes you think only "extreme righties"

object to this draconian abuse of government / corporate power?

( also known as "facsism") 

You do realize this is only the beginning

you will need booster after booster

no natural immunity, but compromising your immune system everytime!

Why do you care if someone isn't vaccinated, if YOU are? 
Do you think your vaccine doesn't work?

or maybe you're just another mind controlled lab rat?

otherwise known as a

Useful idiot! 

 



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Msg ID: 2705648 Airline Pilot shortage—30% aren’t vaccinated  +3/-0     
Author:TheCrow
10/1/2021 4:02:58 PM

Reply to: 2705619

That means 70% of airline pilots are vaccinated.

As opposed to 56% of Americans fully vaccinated and 65% having one jab...



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Msg ID: 2705665 Good On Ya Sonia! Exceptions Can't Achieve The Goal... (NT) +3/-0     
Author:Jett
10/1/2021 7:19:04 PM

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Msg ID: 2705703 Get your Jab and do your part (NT) +2/-0     
Author:bladeslap
10/2/2021 5:12:00 AM

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