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Msg ID: 2707604 Military bases swung hard away from Republicans in 2020 +3/-0     
Author:TheCrow
10/16/2021 12:27:24 PM

Maybe it was Trump's disrespect for those 'losers'?

Military bases swung hard away from Republicans in 2020

By our calculations they moved towards Democrats by eight points, compared with a nationwide swing of just two


 

Allegations of fraud can seldom be stood up by mere insinuation of fishiness. But with scant evidence, one Republican Party poll-watcher in Detroit fell back on that in 2020. In a notarised statement presented by the Trump campaign, the onlooker noted that most of the military ballots he “saw were straight ticket Democrat or simply had Joe Biden’s name filled in on them”. “I had always been told that military personnel tended to be more conservative, so this stuck out to me as the day went on,” he added. Although military voters and their families do tilt conservative (see chart), there is little evidence that they are a Republican constituency. In fact, analysis by The Economist suggests that Mr Trump performed far worse in 2020 across precincts that map onto military bases than he did four years earlier.The political leanings of service members are difficult to measure. The Department of Defence–reluctant to poll active duty soldiers about their commander-in-chief and his party—rarely approves external political surveys. And while today’s soldiers are encouraged to exercise their right to vote, for some, including a number of America’s most distinguished generals, non-partisanship has precluded boots in the ballot box. General George C. Marshall once wrote, “I have never voted, my father was a Democrat, my mother was a Republican, and I am an Episcopalian.”

“There’s a broader narrative that the military is monolithically conservative or Republican, and that just really isn’t the case, or at least is not any more”, says Danielle Lupton, a scholar of civil-military relations at Colgate University in New York. Enlisted soldiers are drawn from, and thus generally reflective of, the American public, although they have greater racial diversity (a constituency that leans Democratic) and far more men (who tend Republican). As voting patterns shift nationwide, so too do they shift among the armed forces.

 

The Economist’s analysis of precincts that map closely onto military bases found a median swing of nearly eight points towards Joe Biden, compared with a nationwide shift of a little over two points in the same direction. On average, Mr Trump still won these precincts, though his margin shrank by nearly half. Patrick Air Force Base—located on Florida’s Atlantic coast and since renamed Patrick Space Force Base—supported Mr Trump by a 17-point margin in 2016. By 2020, his lead there shrank to 11 points. This method is inexact: two-thirds of enlisted service members who vote send in absentee ballots and military bases are often sprawling compounds where spouses, civilian contractors and other support staff reside and vote.

But so too is this finding borne out in the limited available polling of active military personnel. Shortly before the election of 2020, the Military Times and the Institute for Veterans and Military Families (ivmf) at Syracuse University augured an even more extreme swing. Whereas in October 2016 their joint poll showed Mr Trump outpacing Mrs Clinton by 20 points, four years later Mr Biden was ahead of the incumbent by four points. “In 2020, one of the interesting developments was that Trump himself...tried to drive a wedge...and claim populist style that it was the rank and file who liked him, not the senior brass,” noted Peter Feaver, a professor of political science at Duke University.

The Military Times-ivmf polling before the election showed Mr Trump lost ground among both enlisted soldiers and the officer corps, the latter of whom had historically voted disproportionately Republican. Looking ahead to 2024, for Republicans to regain what was lost of the military vote, Mr Feaver speculates the best thing would be “for Trump to shuffle off stage”. 



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Msg ID: 2707613 What if he says. It's full of candy? +3/-0     
Author:TheCrow
10/16/2021 1:14:10 PM

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Msg ID: 2708256 As a veteran of both recent wars... +2/-0     
Author:Stopthehate
10/20/2021 6:55:40 PM

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You can't swear to defend the constitution of the US and then look the other way, or even defend the insurrection on 1/6/2021.  Anyone in the military who does, is not a patriot, but a parasite who were just looking to latch on to the veins of power.  The have no honor or code.  Also known as a fu***** fascist.



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Msg ID: 2708289 As a veteran of both recent wars... +1/-2     
Author:Shooting Shark
10/21/2021 1:59:34 AM

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Fuck you ass hole!

"Patriots" don't roll over for fasist billionaire tyrants and their present political puppets.

They rebel against unconstituinal "mandates" too!

Go Southwest Airlines!

Patiots defy Globalist eugenicists ( Philanthropists? )


January 6 was just another 'orchestrated crisis' originating from the media for the naive and the brainwashed

The financial Covid-cartel rigged this last election. FACT.

Democracy is dead.

Creepy Joe couldn't fill a parking lot, even back then.

And his polls are in the toilet today.. arent they.

(You like yo quote polls, dontcha Buddha? Cat got your tongue?)

No one believed **or believes** that was an actual or meaningful "Insurrection"

No one but you silly mind-controlled

Useful Idiots


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Msg ID: 2708318 Excellent post, Shark! +1/-2     
Author:Old Guy
10/21/2021 11:24:46 AM

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Sometimes I feel like I am the only one pointing out the truth, and then your show up!



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Msg ID: 2708322 You so funny, Pooty! Trump is a fascist billionaire tyrant and has +2/-1     
Author:TheCrow
10/21/2021 12:05:27 PM

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You so funny, Pooty! Trump is a fascist billionaire tyrant autocrat wannabe, and has a whole political party as his puppet- the party f/k/a 'the GOP' or 'the Republican Party' which is so busy kissing Trump's arse if he passed gas it would pop their eyes out. The Republican Party can't primary a candidate without Trump's approval, even in states that Trump tirned blue.

Lest you forget, hyper-patriotism is a significant tell for fascists. Hint.

Where did the novel coronavirus come from? China. Government responsibility to limit the entry of infectious agents. "We have it totally under control'?

Once in America, it spreads from person to person? Unknown at first, but when determined to be so it should be announced by responsible public health agencies.

The infected/vectors didn't have signs indicating they were spreading virus all around them, individuals couldn't participate in normal activities, so, again- a public health response is required- government.

You should have an option in the vaccination program- be vaccinated and participate in society of avoid vaccination and refuse to expose the innocent around when you get sick- complete isolation until the pandemic passes. I'm guessing you would resent that, so pick the lesser of two evils.

Globalist Eugenicists? Tunnels out of Comet Ping Pong and the secret all powerful world cannabalistic pedophille cabal.

Trump himself is destroying the American democratic system. You and your frog boys are helping him.

Democracy is dead.

Creepy Joe couldn't fill a parking lot, even back then.

And his polls are in the toilet today.. arent they.

 

A glance at lalla o-muji-dummiezombie's favorite pollster "It's Gallup, so liberals..." Anyhow, it looks to me like Biden's numbers are down and may, repeat MAY even fall lower than Trump's. But Trump's approval was never as high as Bidens.



(You like yo quote polls, dontcha Buddha? Cat got your tongue?)

 

 

The "Stop the Steal" rally mob attacked the Capitol with the stated purtpose of stopping the constitutional process of certifying and accepting the electoral ballots. Was that a formally conspired insurrection or just mob mentality? Pick one and live with it.



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Msg ID: 2708335 It is funny, that you don’t know! +0/-2     
Author:Old Guy
10/21/2021 2:26:20 PM

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Shark is 100% correct

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/wikileaks-reveals-the-billionaire-progressives-that-run-the-democratic-party/

He made an excellent true point!

If you are going to be a lefty, you should at least know what they stand for and who controls them.

useful idiot 



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Msg ID: 2708336 Deny that Trump is a billionaire autocrat who attacked the 2020 American to +2/-0     
Author:TheCrow
10/21/2021 2:33:16 PM

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Deny that Trump is a billionaire autocrat who attacked the 2020 American to further his ambition to return to the Oval Office. By definition, that's an autocrat, no matter what other people are or are not.



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Msg ID: 2708325 If You Keep Telling Yourself It Didn't Happen It Will Go Away... +3/-0     
Author:Jett
10/21/2021 1:24:44 PM

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Not!

Because we will never allow that, Jan 6 was a violent attack on the American Capitol by trumplican Trailer Trash...



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