In a post below, you claimed that there were 200,000 deaths from Covid when Trump left office. When showed you the real numbers, 400,000, you called me a liar. 

Please back up your claims - maybe im wrong? 

here is how I back up my claims:

Stunning CDC Data Suggests True Final Coronavirus Death Toll of Trump Presidency Likely Over 550,000 (mediaite.com)

As Donald Trump’s presidency came to a close, the official confirmed U.S. coronavirus death toll sat at a staggering 409,000 lives lost, but Centers for Disease Control data suggests that the true death toll during Trump’s tenure was over 550,000 and approaching 600,000.

According to the Center for Systems Science and Engineering (CSSE) at Johns Hopkins University COVID-19 Dashboard, which is generally regarded as the official source for confirmed coronavirus figures, the current COVID-19 death toll is 480,902 — itself a mind-blowing figure.

But according to the latest available figures from the Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the true current death toll is likely much greater — and could already have surpassed 600,000 souls lost.

CDC tracks the number of deaths reported in excess of the average number of expected deaths based on prior years, and the latest figures show that since the pandemic began, 569,397 more people than expected have died.

That data runs through most of Trump’s final full month in office.

The good news is that President Joe Biden’s administration has announced that the government has ordered enough additional vaccines to accommodate every American by the end of July. And The University of Washington’s Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation projects that universal masking could save tens of thousands of lives over the next few months — as many as 34,000 fewer deaths than the current projection.

And here is the more conservative number

Misleading.............really? You must be kidding mod. If anything, I was downplaying his failures.

In 2020, when we had roughly 220,000 alledged covid deaths, Biden clearly made the statement that if any POTUS with that many deaths on his hands should not be POTUS.

This was the BIden standard.

And yet Joey has more deaths on his hands than Trump did.

And Trump didn't have this so-called vaccine. Biden had it the entire time.

Biden's campaign was souly based on the covid. He said, "I WILL SOLVE THE COVID......I WILL FIX THE COVID".

He has done nothing.

He also stated, "I WILL SHUT DOWN THE VIRUS, NOT THE COUNTRY"

                      " I WILL SHUT DOWN THE VIRUS, NOT THE ECONOMY"

He has done both. And this is not debateable.

Most of what I'm saying can be found on the NY Times data.

I have more but I don't wanr to overload you.

One other thing about you libs, you always ask for data / articles. And when those are presented to you, you simply dismiss them as inaccurate and misinformation.

So forgive me if I don't provide you with acceptable data.

You're acknowledging that you're absolutely clueless. The only way it can be controlled is by high vaccination rates worldwide. As long as we have high numbers of Extreme Right Anti-Vaxxers in the US we will not get a handle on COVID, at least not anytime soon...  

You're the one that claimed you couldn't catch covid after you got the shot. LOL

You shouldn't get into these conversations, just makes you look foolish.

Oh yeah, what is an anti-vaxxer?????

All vaccines have "breakthrough" infections. They're less frequent and milder than the illness vaccinated against, which, after a while reults in the former epidemic disappearing.

Vaccinated against Covid, one has only a 3% chance of hospitalization.

Make your choice- limit the spread and accept a reduced chance of an infection that will be a milder infection.

Or, insist on perfect protection, acceopt a higher risk of becoming sick, spreading the infection and fecking dying of it.

Even "Second Coming, The Only One Who Can Fix It" recommends vaccination.

I challenge you to show a post I have ever made on this forum where I said that people who are vaccinated can't become infected with COVID. You said it, so back it up Bitch...

I have said that the vaccines keep people from becoming infected with COVID because they do keep many people from becoming infected, not all, but many. And as Crow pointed out generally those who do have a breakthrough infection have much better results.

So where's that claim you're talking about?