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Msg ID: 2713666 So who's endorsing the Smash & Grab?? +0/-3     
Author:observer II
12/15/2021 9:35:21 AM

Seems to be a big problem for...............well, the store owners.

No one is allowed to stop them, beat the crap out of them, or even shoot them.

Courts are allowing it

Liberals are funding it

So where does this lead when anyone can break into a store and steal thousands of dollars in merchandise with no reprecussions.

These people aren't stealng food for their families. Which is unacceptable as well. But they are breaking into high end stores and stealing for the sake of stealing.

I'm waiting for a store owner to shoot and kill these thugs. It's going to happen. And what will happen to the store owner?

This country is in turmoil, and biden and his ilk are responsible.

Donald, we miss you



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Msg ID: 2713668 Criminal Behavior? You're A Hypocrite On That Subject... +3/-0     
Author:Jett
12/15/2021 9:56:38 AM

Reply to: 2713666

You supported this behavior in both cases, so I don't think you're qualified to speak on the issue...

 

 





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Msg ID: 2713670 Great response when you're talking apples & oranges +0/-2     
Author:observer II
12/15/2021 10:17:08 AM

Reply to: 2713668

First of all, january 6th was far from what you liberals call an insurrection. It's not a violent mob that walks into a building when it's the cops that opened the door and said, come on in, can I help you up the stairs????

Yeah, looked really violent.

Unlike the rioting that you have supported for years. BLM was funded by people like you, supported by people like you. So yeah, you really shouldn't talk.

Glass houses lib....................glass houses.

And shall we discuss the fact that a black cop shot an unarmed WHITE WOMAN that had her back to him. And posed no threat. And you people said he did the right thing.

You want to talk about hypocrisy jettsheep??????// You people invented the word.

Hey, how come you didn't post something about Charlottesville? That seems to always be yur go to

 

Try answering the question lib, instead of deflecting



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Msg ID: 2713693 Oh, but I did, you're not paying attention... +2/-0     
Author:Jett
12/15/2021 11:31:28 AM

Reply to: 2713670

The second photograph I posted was your boy the white supremacist "Just Running from Libs" who ran down and murdered an innocent woman at Charlottesville when your people had their "Unite The Right" racist rally.

And if you don't call the first photo violence something's wrong with you. Oh wait a minute, that's already been established. 

What you're really trying to say is that violence perpetrated by Extreme Right Trailer Trash is completely acceptable, but violence by people of color is wrong. 

Which makes you...  



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Msg ID: 2713684 Why Libs are Stupid +0/-2     
Author:Old Guy
12/15/2021 11:01:10 AM

Reply to: 2713666

Shooting Shark posted a link, Bonhoeffer the Theory of Stupidity, that is a very good explanation on how this got started.

This crime wave is a direct result of the stupidity from the left.

I really think they do not care about law and order, or even right or wrong.  Everything appears to be over their  power and control of the citizens.  If you do not believe me, ask yourselves this, Why are they pushing all kinds of mandates on us citizens to comply with?  And then  welcome (giving free hand outs) illegals to our country with NO COVID requirements, and ship them to cities near you?

Crime is up in the major cities ran by the stupidity of the left, who have created incentives to those criminals, produced more poor, more homeless, more reasons to steal with NO CONSEQUENCES!

 



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Msg ID: 2713691 The "Left" is villainy and the 'right ' is all virtue, right Mr Himmler? +2/-0     
Author:TheCrow
12/15/2021 11:23:03 AM

Reply to: 2713684

Y'all got the cabal of cannabalistic jewish pedophiles going for you, dontcha? And only Mr Trump is fighting them, he's your 'only hope' for the fatherland.

You've had your fire in the reichstag in the January 6 attempt to overturn the election, restore Herr Trump.

Everybody is against you, except you are backed by 'angels, martyrs' like Ashli Babbitt, your Horst Wessel. Proud Boys, Oathkeepers sued by DOJ overt January 6 damages.



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Msg ID: 2713694 Bladeslap, treat this fairly, threaten to band Crow! (NT) +0/-2     
Author:Old Guy
12/15/2021 11:33:24 AM

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Msg ID: 2713699 Crow is spot on, Do you QAnon? donnie to the rescue! (NT) +2/-0     
Author:Jett
12/15/2021 11:45:56 AM

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Msg ID: 2713707 We actually dont' miss Donald... +2/-0     
Author:bladeslap
12/15/2021 11:51:27 AM

Reply to: 2713666

Do you think someone smashing and grabbing should be shot by a store owner (assuming they have no weapon)?



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Msg ID: 2713717 Yes I do! +0/-3     
Author:Old Guy
12/15/2021 12:08:55 PM

Reply to: 2713707

We have the right to defend ourselves, including our property.  They have already killed as they smash an grab.

what do you think, they should be left alone, not arrested, or if arrested, NO Bail?

With that attitude, when do you enforce the law? After you are killed.

If you are not a child, then you should know that you need to stop bad behavior when it starts, not after it has become out of control.

 



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Msg ID: 2713752 Yes I do! +2/-0     
Author:bladeslap
12/15/2021 6:53:48 PM

Reply to: 2713717

Do you have any experience with law enforcement or gun ownership, Old guy?

If the assailant is not threatening you with a weapon, and you don't feel your life is in danger, you are not legally allowed to use deadly force. This is one of the most basic laws of use of force in both law enforcement and personal protection.

You cannot kill someone to protect your property; that's not the way the law is written.

I repeat, if you don't believe your life is at danger, you cannot respond with deadly force. 



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Msg ID: 2713720 As I think about this, you are really stupid  +0/-2     
Author:Old Guy
12/15/2021 12:15:48 PM

Reply to: 2713707

(assuming they have no weapon)

Ashli Babbitt had NO WEAPON, and her killing was OK!  She was not even smashing and grabbing!

 



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Msg ID: 2713722 You stand up for Ashli but you never did for Heather... +3/-0     
Author:Jett
12/15/2021 12:30:37 PM

Reply to: 2713720

I wonder why? All of the posts about Charlottesville over the years yet you never stood up for Heather, she wasn't even trespassing...



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Msg ID: 2713724 I have never posted about Heather! +0/-3     
Author:Old Guy
12/15/2021 12:41:19 PM

Reply to: 2713722

Do not think I ever posted anything directly about the events in Charlottesville.  I personally believe that whole thing is blown totally out of proportion.  It has been bloviating at its best.

 



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Msg ID: 2713749 That's exactly my point Old Dude... +3/-0     
Author:Jett
12/15/2021 5:57:36 PM

Reply to: 2713724

I said I've never heard you stand up for Heather and there have been hundreds of posts about her and Charlottesville. 

Why is Ashli's life so important to you but you have no time for Heather? Why is this? Because she was a "Lib" so she has no value to you as a person, and because she was brutally murdered by an Extreme Righty White Supremacist who you sympathize with. 

Sure you do, you feel that way about everything that paints conservatives in a true/bad light. 

   



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Msg ID: 2713753 You are simply ignorant, old guy +2/-1     
Author:bladeslap
12/15/2021 6:57:37 PM

Reply to: 2713720

Old guy, I know you have emotional issues and need to name call

Let me try to equate something for you. When you call someone "Stupid" or "Idiot" on here, it simply reveals the level at which you operate at and your inability to control your emotions.

I get it, you run out valid arguments, so your anger takes over.

Since you seem to be a little ignorant and uniformed about the laws of this great country, take the time to read them and then feel free to ask the question who is really "stupid". Educate yourself and do a little research next time 

10 CFR § 1047.7 - Use of deadly force. | CFR | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute (cornell.edu)

§ 1047.7 Use of deadly force.

(a) Deadly force means that force which a reasonable person would consider likely to cause death or serious bodily harm. Its use may be justified only under conditions of extreme necessity, when all lesser means have failed or cannot reasonably be employed. A protective force officer is authorized to use deadly force only when one or more of the following circumstances exists:

(1) Self-Defense. When deadly force reasonably appears to be necessary to protect a protective force officer who reasonably believes himself or herself to be in imminent danger of death or serious bodily harm.

(2) Serious offenses against persons. When deadly force reasonably appears to be necessary to prevent the commission of a serious offense against a person(s) in circumstances presenting an imminent danger of death or serious bodily harm (e.g. sabotage of an occupied facility by explosives).

(3) Nuclear weapons or nuclear explosive devices. When deadly force reasonably appears to be necessary to prevent the theft, sabotage, or unauthorized control of a nuclear weapon or nuclear explosive device.

(4) Special nuclear material. When deadly force reasonably appears to be necessary to prevent the theft, sabotage, or unauthorized control of special nuclear material from an area of a fixed site or from a shipment where Category II or greater quantities are known or reasonably believed to be present.

(5) Apprehension. When deadly force reasonably appears to be necessary to apprehend or prevent the escape of a person reasonably believed to: (i) have committed an offense of the nature specified in paragraphs (a)(1) through (a)(4) 1 of this section; or (ii) be escaping by use of a weapon or explosive or who otherwise indicates that he or she poses a significant threat of death or serious bodily harm to the protective force officer or others unless apprehended without delay.

1 These offenses are considered by the Department of Energy to pose a significant threat of death or serious bodily harm.

(b) Additional Considerations Involving Firearms. If it becomes necessary to use a firearm, the following precautions shall be observed:

(1) A warning, e.g. an order to halt, shall be given, if feasible, before a shot is fired.

(2) Warning shots shall not be fired.



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