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Msg ID: 2713994 So you understand how Observer Interacts with us +4/-2     
Author:RT Carlson
12/17/2021 3:09:45 PM

I spent time reading this forum.

From this point forward I am not going to read a thing from either Observer or Old guy. You two don't have either the integrity or the patience to research the garbage you post.

Observer posted "In the UK, 60% of covid hospitalizations are double vaxxed". If he bothered to search that, he would have found that it was a misstatement made and was promptly corrected.

60% of people being admitted to UK hospitals are unvaccinated - adviser | Reuters

If you want anyone to read what you post it's in your best interest you show a bit of integrity, of which you've shown next to none.

Know that your posts will no longer be opened by me. I hope others follow on and do the same for both of you as all you do is spread mis-information.



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Msg ID: 2714012 Really +0/-3     
Author:Old Guy
12/17/2021 7:31:06 PM

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We do not need you to read our posts if you do not know 



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Msg ID: 2714013 Observer is correct! +1/-3     
Author:Old Guy
12/17/2021 7:37:47 PM

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https://stuartbramhall.wordpress.com/2021/09/28/uk-hospital-data-shocks-the-world-80-of-covid-deaths-are-among-the-vaccinated-covid-deaths-up-3000-after-vaccine-wave/



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Msg ID: 2714024 You and Obsy both are correct about NOTHING when it comes to Covid... +3/-1     
Author:Jett
12/18/2021 1:01:42 AM

Reply to: 2714013

You throw this conspiracy theory bull shit out with absurd back up, or in Obsy's case none, and you expect any rational person to believe this shit?

If it had an ounce of truth to it Fox would be all over it, you wouldn't have to use obscure nut job websites. 

Both of you are a threat to public health and you should be ashamed of yourselves... 



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Msg ID: 2714070 They search for Blog Articles to prove their point +3/-1     
Author:bladeslap
12/18/2021 11:50:24 AM

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Incredible how naive they are. 



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Msg ID: 2714282 Oh the horror of it all (NT) +0/-2     
Author:observer II
12/20/2021 10:17:44 AM

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Msg ID: 2714069 "Wordpress site" +2/-1     
Author:bladeslap
12/18/2021 11:49:54 AM

Reply to: 2714013

Ya, okay Old guy. "Wordpress" blog article

You can't be that naive...or maybe you can be. God help you.

 



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Msg ID: 2714077 Really +0/-3     
Author:Old Guy
12/18/2021 12:32:24 PM

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What makes you think they are incorrect?

Do you believe some other biased article that is much more incorrect.  Were is the truth in our news reporting system?

Whay don't you understand that we have the freedom of the press, and the press has learned they do not need to be truthful.  You can trust the news what you want, but the left biased news has been proven wrong, over and over.  Fake news is real!

Did you know of the major news outlets FOX NEWS is rated as the most trusted.

Point is you need to use your intelligence to determine what is true or false.

In England much more of the population is vaccinated, because the vaccine does not stop you from getting Covid it does make since that vaccinated people get it, more of then, more get it.

In my closest family, only the one vaccinated ones have got the virus, after they got the vaccine.

No non-vaccinated family have gotten the virus!

I do not care if you get a vaccine or not, your choice, not mine.

But don't keep calling all news that does not support your opinion as wrong.  Much more fake news from the left  than the right.

 



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Msg ID: 2714106 Wordpress will publish ANYTHING you pay to publish. +3/-0     
Author:TheCrow
12/18/2021 3:50:48 PM

Reply to: 2714077

Is that a credible source?

Here is a credible source of information

“Breakthrough” COVID-19 Hospitalizations Among Fully Vaccinated Patients Occur Most Often among Older Adults and Involve People with Chronic Health Conditions

Compared to Hospitalizations of Unvaccinated Patients, Breakthrough Cases Involve Shorter Stays on Average and Appear More Likely to Be Hospitalized Primarily for Non-COVID Ailments
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“Breakthrough” hospitalizations involving COVID-19 among people who are fully vaccinated against the disease most often affected older adults and people with other chronic health conditions, finds a new analysis of hospital data from June through September by KFF and Epic Research.

More than two-thirds (69%) of breakthrough COVID-19 hospitalizations occurred among people ages 65 and older, who are more likely than younger age groups to have gotten vaccinated. A fifth (21%) of breakthrough hospitalizations occurred among people ages 50-64, while 10% occurred among younger adults.

COVID-19 hospitalizations among people who were not fully vaccinated skew much younger, with about 3 in 10 (30%) involving patients ages 50-64 and 4 in 10 (41%) involving patients under age 50.


The analysis examines data from June to September from Epic’s Cosmos research platform, which includes data for more than 120,000 hospitalizations with a COVID diagnosis during the four-month period. Patients are considered “fully vaccinated” if they received a dose of Johnson & Johnson vaccine or two doses of the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine at least two weeks before they were hospitalized, regardless of whether they were eligible for or received a booster shot.

Compared to those who are unvaccinated, a small share (15%) of hospital admissions for COVID-19 during the four-month period involve people who were fully vaccinated against the disease.

Other findings include:

  • Larger shares of fully vaccinated adults hospitalized with breakthrough COVID-19 had selected chronic conditions including, hypertension, diabetes, heart failure, or chronic obstructive pulmonary disease) compared to those hospitalized with COVID-19 who were not fully vaccinated.
  • Fully vaccinated people who are hospitalized with breakthrough COVID-19 are less likely than those who are not fully vaccinated to have COVID-related complications such as viral pneumonia or respiratory failure, or to receive a ventilator or dexamethasone treatment. This suggests that fully vaccinated patients with COVID-19 diagnoses may be somewhat more likely to be in the hospital primarily for reasons other than COVID-19.
  • Fully vaccinated people with breakthrough infections had shorter hospital stays compared to others in their age group who were not fully vaccinated. For example, among those at least 65 years old with COVID-19, the median stay was 5.6 days for those who were fully vaccinated compared to 6.7 days for those who were unvaccinated or partly vaccinated.

The analysis is available on the Peterson-KFF Health System Tracker, an online information hub dedicated to monitoring and assessing the performance of the U.S. health system



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