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Msg ID: 2714394 Old guy posted a "Scientific Article" from "Daily Expose" paper about Covid +2/-0     
Author:bladeslap
12/20/2021 10:39:29 PM

I had never heard of it before ... So i did a little research and found this

EXCLUSIVE: Actors Behind UK Misinformation Site The Daily Expose Revealed (logically.ai)

It is known as a "UK Misinformation Site"

Also, more on that:

Vaccinated people sometimes die of Covid-19—but very rarely - Full Fact

And

Vaccines are highly effective at reducing the risk of death from COVID-19; The Exposé misleadingly claims the UK vaccination campaign has failed - Health Feedback

Good to hear opinions on the article

Also read that the Daily Exposé has posted quite a few inaccuracies on twitter and has been pushing anti-vax stuff.

As we are finding, if you want to find a story to support your stance, someone will have published it somewhere. The compelling thing is can you find something that's peer reviewed or something in a reputable journal that's not known for have less than a stellar reputation.

 



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Msg ID: 2714395 Thanks Blade, this is exactly the kind of sources we complain about... +2/-0     
Author:Jett
12/20/2021 10:44:57 PM

Reply to: 2714394

These aren't real sources, this is stupid nonsense, and as I think we have all told all three of you, if you expect us to take a look at something you are going about it completely wrong.

It has to be from a legit site like Fox, not those crazy conspiracy websites... 



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Msg ID: 2714416 Really +0/-2     
Author:Old Guy
12/21/2021 9:17:19 AM

Reply to: 2714394

You just do not understand do you.  Just because one group/side disagrees with any information does not always make it true.  I also have looked into this and every thing you read about the number of people getting care in a hospital for Covid that have been vaccinated is increasing. True fact!  Even the British National Heathcare Service says the percentage is increasing.  Now if it is 80% or 56% is not that big of a deal, because some day it will be 100% of the people getting care in a hospital for Covid would have been vaccinated.

Now my real issue with you, more than once when I post you do not comprehend what was posted, and you reply with BS.  Just like this round, you post back with link about the death rate, and recovery from Covid with a vaccine.  I never posted about the death rate, I posted about the percentage in the hospital, there is a big difference.  Now if you would have posted back that it is possible that the percentage under care has increased, but the death rate is still much better with the vaccine, that would be true.

You must read with your emotions, not your logic.  You claim I am wrong about nearly everything, well I claim your are wrong about everything.  You also claim I make an argument and then take the opposite stance.  I am very consistent on my point of view, find just one place I have changed sides.  If you think I have, I bet it is your reading interpretation not me changing sides.  Go ahead point out we're I have changed sides!



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Msg ID: 2714426 It is you who is misinformed Old guy +2/-0     
Author:bladeslap
12/21/2021 9:49:12 AM

Reply to: 2714416

You're simply not able to have a civililzed dialogue people Old guy. You let your emotions get the best of you and depart logic and go on an ego-preservation role.



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Msg ID: 2714430 And you want to know why no one joined your zoom +0/-2     
Author:observer II
12/21/2021 9:53:45 AM

Reply to: 2714426

Look in the mirror.

Do you see what you are doing here?

This is every time a conservative posts, this is your attitude everytime one of us posts. And you call us hateful with the inability to have a civil discussion.

This is your environment. I would love to have civil discussions here but you make it impossible.

I'm just trying to help you at here.

When you banned me for all those months. You actually had me thinking I was a problem, So I checked in here from time to time just to see how the topics / discussions went.

I saw no change what so ever.

So you have to look at the constants.

my .02



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Msg ID: 2714433 And you want to know why no one joined your zoom +2/-0     
Author:bladeslap
12/21/2021 9:55:37 AM

Reply to: 2714430

I banned you for one week because you went completely out of control with your hate and rage.

With your demeaning behavior and just getting way out of control. I had multiple complaints about you from people on this forum and you needed your cooling off period.

You may not see it, but at times, you become highly irrational and emotional and jsut get out of control.

I've said it many times before.

why are you still on this forum if you think you are being treated unfairly?



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Msg ID: 2714438 And you want to know why no one joined your zoom +2/-0     
Author:bladeslap
12/21/2021 10:04:37 AM

Reply to: 2714430

If you truly wanted to see if another approach would work, you could have come on the zoom call and we could have talked through our concerns together. You chose not to. It's on you, not me.

 



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Msg ID: 2714432 Really +0/-2     
Author:Old Guy
12/21/2021 9:55:32 AM

Reply to: 2714426

Go ahead tell me were I am misinformed.

Go ahead tell me were I departed logic.

Go ahead tell me we're my emotions took control.

you are absolutely unbelievable!



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Msg ID: 2714434 He needs help old guy. It's very clear +0/-2     
Author:observer II
12/21/2021 9:58:03 AM

Reply to: 2714432

He blames everyone else for exactly what he does.

 

What do you call that in psychology?

 

His idea of being informed is agreeing with him on every topic.

 

EGO



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Msg ID: 2714437 He needs help old guy. It's very clear +2/-0     
Author:bladeslap
12/21/2021 10:00:40 AM

Reply to: 2714434

Old guy / Obsy , why do you keep coming back here?

If you think you are being treated so unfairly, then don't come back. 

It's quite simple.

Please answer...Why do you keep coming back to this space that I created? For so many years? 

You keep crying that you're getting abused because people FACT CHECK YOU and prove to you time and time again that you are posting false-hoods and potentially putting people's lives in danger...

I ask again ... WHY Do you keep coming back to my home? Why?



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Msg ID: 2714443 Why do you feel the need to lie about everything +1/-1     
Author:observer II
12/21/2021 10:18:04 AM

Reply to: 2714437

FAct checked, huh.

Don't you mean opinion checked? I think it was acknowledged in a court of law that the fact checkers were providing opinions..................not facts.

I recently posted that 60% of infected people in England were fully vaccinated.

It was called misinformation and one of your pets posted a link disproving my post. Then old guy posted a source that verified what I said. Turns out your pet posted something from 6 months ago.

And you want to talk about cherry picking???

I DO NOT post misinformation mod. PLain and simple.

It's misinformation because you don't like it. Stop with this quest you are on to discredit every conservative on this board.

This is my observation, my opinion. You proba bly don't like it but it doesn't make it wrong.

You do understand that, don't you?

 



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Msg ID: 2714435 Do you want me to go down the long list?  +2/-0     
Author:bladeslap
12/21/2021 9:59:18 AM

Reply to: 2714432

I'd be happy to show you

1. Michigan Vote was stolen - Proven wrong, yet you never acknowledged it

2. Wisconsin Vote Stolen - Proven wrong, yet you never acknowledged it

3. AZ Vote fraud - Cyber Ninjas proved it actually was more in Biden's favor

4. Georgia Vote Fraud - Nope, multiple audits proved you were wrong

5. PA Vote Stolen - Nope, wrong again - Judge told Trump campaign to GTFO since you have no evidence

70 or so judges, many republicans, said ZERO proof to show any Fraud

Barr said - No Fraud

Election Czar said No Fraud

McConell and Pence confirmed it was a fair election...

All these things and you still cannot admit you were wrong ...

That's why no one trusts a single thing that comes out of your mouth. You are dishonest and cannot admit when you are wrong. .. So I take everything you post with a grain of salt.



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Msg ID: 2714440 This list is BS +0/-1     
Author:Old Guy
12/21/2021 10:10:15 AM

Reply to: 2714435

Every point you make is contested!  

You are not showing me anything but your biased opinion.

Your opinion is not even the opinion that the majority of Americans have!

This is not a list of anything truthful, or even acceptable!

Try again.

 



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Msg ID: 2714441 This list is BS +3/-0     
Author:bladeslap
12/21/2021 10:13:56 AM

Reply to: 2714440

That's why it's so difficult to have a conversation with you.

This is why no one on here can have a conversation with you...I don't know if it's dishoensty or ignorance with you:

Votes added to Michigan -Fact check: Typo led to false post about Michigan votes for Biden (usatoday.com)

More people Voted in Wisconson than on Voter Rolls:Fact check: Wisconsin did not have more votes than people registered   | Reuters

This is why we simply cannot have a conversation with you Old guy. 

Be a little more honest with people when you make mistakes and we'll LISTEN to you more.

Those are two glaring examples of issues that are NOT contested and were completely debunked.

I'm done with you...

 



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Msg ID: 2714445 Opinion is the fact checker for liberals. Proven in court (NT) +0/-2     
Author:observer II
12/21/2021 10:20:01 AM

Reply to: 2714440


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