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Msg ID: 2715973 "You can't love your country only when you win" +2/-1     
Author:bladeslap
1/6/2022 4:41:11 PM

Truer words never spoken - Thank you Joe

Trump started with "America First" - His actions were completely the opposite of that. Trump first, America last. Maybe one day Old guy and Shooty will see that

 



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Msg ID: 2715983 Brandon is a National disgrace (NT) +2/-2     
Author:Shooting Shark
1/6/2022 5:07:25 PM

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Msg ID: 2716022 So is Pizza gate according to you +2/-0     
Author:bladeslap
1/6/2022 7:41:43 PM

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The problem is once you get an idea stuck in your head, no matter what the Evidence is, your mind cannot be changed. You're not interested in fax, you're just interested in confirmation bias and absorbing the data that fits your worldview.



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Msg ID: 2716078 So is Pizza gate according to you +0/-1     
Author:Shooting Shark
1/7/2022 10:41:26 AM

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Stick to the facts Buddha

there is photographic evidence of  podesta associates and their perverse behavior, artwork, emails etc

who sticks his head in the sand...you do!

Biden is a National Disgrace ~~~FACT



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Msg ID: 2716081 So is Pizza gate according to you +1/-0     
Author:Shooting Shark
1/7/2022 10:59:58 AM

Reply to: 2716078

The parts the media came up with and debunked (the basement, and probably the gunman incident) are not real.

the wikileaks podesta emails that Chris Cuomo from CNN said were illegal to read and possess, are extremely real. Still not explained to anyone’s satisfaction.

Just google wikileaks podesta email #55433. Explain that one. There are so many others.

then there is the pizzashop owner himself who had a lot of really creepy stuff with kids and pizza and sexy innuendo art all over his instagram.

And

this Guy, james alefantis, he had all ages shows late into the evening with bands with names like heavy breathing and sex stains. A lot of weird stuff there too.

hes even had slumber parties with kids there.

then

then there are the pieces of art the podestas own. Hillary’s campaign chairman john podesta (yes his emails too) has some pretty awful art in his home, but his brother tony seems to have a far bigger collection.

And the symbology is just incredibly disturbing. A pizza place up the street had one of the fbi child lover symbols and then changed it as soon as PIzzagate broke

Its all connected to the clintons. The pizza shop owner had hosted fundraisers for Hillary’s campaign.

Now that Epstein is up on new charges there’s a chance new stuff might come to light to make it really undeniable.

really

the biggest eye opener for me was how hard the mainstream media worked to cover PIzzagate up. … it’s kind of scary to realize

if they’re lying about all this

what else is there….?

 


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Msg ID: 2716084 So is Pizza gate according to you +0/-1     
Author:Shooting Shark
1/7/2022 11:11:36 AM

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Firstly, lets refrain from calling it “pizzagate”.

This trend of putting “gate” at the end of this scandal is asinine, as it discredits, minimizes and distracts from the gravity of the accusations, as well as places it in a category with less important and arguably laughable issues like “deflategate” and “gamergate”.

No. Just… no.

Instead, what it should be called is exactly what it is: The D.C. Pedophilia Scandal. No pet names. No bullshit. No exceptions.

Once we do that, it's easy to understand why so many people would believe that this is actually taking place.

Child trafficking, child molestation, pedophilia, occult ritual abuse and child sacrifice are more of a reality than any of the worthless shit you read about on social media. Quora included.

These occurances happen everyday, in America and abroad. Somewhere, some heinous sacks of human sepsis are conducting themselves in this manner right now as I write this. And will be as you are reading this.

When you scroll to the bottom of this answer, instead of seeing the number of views this post has garnered, imagine that being the number of times children have been sexually abused since this answer was written.

Why do so many people believe the D.C. Pedophilia Scandal is real?

All you’ve got to do is look at the signs.

Pretty much self explanatory.

You don't become one of the most influential people in d.c. by owning a couple pizza shops and a fishing and camping store. (#49)

Also, it's curious to note that this freak has been accused of trafficking children through his pizza shop, which he claims doesn't have a basement, but also owns a camping and fishing store? Concerning. Should investigators comb the camping and fishing sites his customers frequent, I’m sure they’d uncover some disturbing truths buried beneath the property.

Let's look at how major media corporations handle popular personalities who just so happen to be pedophiles.

Jimmy Savile sexual abuse scandal - Wikipedia

Sir Clement Freud exposed as a paedophile as police urged to probe Madeleine McCann links

See that? They sweep it under the rug until the pedophile is dead.

Now, let's look at what happened after the D.C. Pedophile Scandal was publicized.

Massive Child Sex Ring Busted in CA — 474 Arrested, 28 Children Saved

Proof that MASSIVE trafficking rings exist unnoticed.

Ben Swann Does a "Reality Check" About Pizzagate on CBS News ... and Immediate Backlash Ensues (video)

Proof that mainstream personalities are being silenced for inquiring about it.

There’s an old saying. “If you want to know who’s running things, find out who you’re not allowed to question or criticize.”

Ben Swann questioned whether child trafficking pedophiles exist in D.C., look what happened.

The video below explores john and tony podesta’s affiliation with clement freud, and how they were present in Portugal during the time poor Madeleine McCann was abducted.

ASHTON KUTCHER EXPOSES PIZZAGATE IN FRONT OF CONGRESS AND THE MEDIA STAYS SILENT

I’d like to note that it’s hard to take kutcher seriously due to his affiliation with secret societies, which are some of the main perpetrators behind child abduction, sacrifice and ritual abuse. A lot of what kutcher says here is truth, but his stance - in my opinion - is more akin to controlled opposition or possibly even fake allegiance; a man on the inside to gather information for his superiors and mislead investigators.

But I digress. Even though kutcher is mentioned in the video’s name, it's not about him. The information concerning the podesta brothers is around the 20 minute mark. I’d suggest watching the whole thing though.

Now you may be wondering what it is about children that these sick fucks love so much?

I can tell you that it goes beyond sexual perversion. It's because children are pure in essence. Their bodies are less riddled with impurities. Their pineal glands aren't calcified by decades of fluoride exposure.

What does this mean?

It means that the dimethyltryptamine (DMT) produced by their brains during experiences of heightened pain and duress is much more potent; making their harvested blood, tissue and organs rich with DMT after a torture killing.

DMT is a substance known for it’s hallucinogenic properties, and it's been classified as a gateway to communicating with beings that exist within a different plane of existence.

This means that when these elites perform blood rituals like spirit cooking, they are doing so in service of their “otherworldly” masters, just like Christians take bread and wine during communion as a metaphor for the flesh and blood of Jesus.

Consuming the flesh and blood of children after a specific set of ritualistic steps is performed is seen as a means to preserve the youth of the consumer.

In the novel “Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas”, author, accused pedophile satanist and alleged snuff film director hunter s. thompson writes about a drug called “adrenochrome”, which is a hallucinogenic substance cultivated from human adrenal glands. In the film adaptation, famed satanist johnny depp plays a character who, along with his friend, comes into possession of the drug and discuss its origins. Watch:

Fear And Loathing adrenochrome

Also concerning hunter s. thompson:

Photographer Russell E. Nelson said Hunter Thompson offered him $100,000 to shoot a snuff film, copies of which would then be sold to “wealthy business people for tremendous amounts of money.” This is verified in a 2005 article by Tom Flocco:

“Recently arrested photographer Russell E. ‘Rusty’ Nelson–who according to U.S. District court testimony [2-5-1999] was impersonated by another photographer at Capitol Hill child sex parties during the Reagan and Bush presidencies, told us last week that in 1988 he refused Hunter Thompson’s offer of $100,000 to film a graphic child sex ‘snuff movie to be sold to wealthy private clients where a young boy would be murdered as a sacrifice.’”

In his shattering book on the 1988-1991 child sex ring scandal that involved GOP élites in Washington, D.C., and prominent citizens and Boys Town of Nebraska, The Franklin Cover-Up: Child Abuse, Satanism, and Murder in Nebraska, attorney and Nebraska state legislator John DeCamp (1941-2017), a Republican, interviewed Paul Bonacci, one of the child victims who provided testimonies to grand juries of his abuses and what he had witnessed. DeCamp was Bonacci’s attorney.

Bonacci’s testimony included an account of how he and another boy Nicholas were taken to Las Vegas and ordered to rape a boy, after which an adult man sodomized and shot the boy — all of which was filmed. The director of the snuff film was Hunter Thompson.

Source: Hunter S. Thompson was a pedophile-bestialist who made snuff films

 

But all this is getting way too deep and can be covered in a different topic.

It should be noted though, as per the quote above, that D.C. and political pedophilia have been a topic since long before Comet Ping Pong and alefantis became implicated in it. It should also be noted that most of the original source material investigating and exposing hunter s. thompson has been thoroughly scrubbed from the internet, as if there are those who wish for the long history linking serious pedophilia to political circles in D.C. to be expunged from public record and memory.

So to answer your question, “why do so many people believe in the D.C. Pedophilia Scandal?”

Because, even if this specific clusterfuck of an event was staged, the allegations of pedophilia in high offices are absolutely true and objectively documented.

Point blank.



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Msg ID: 2716088 It happens somewhere, so it must be happening where you say it is by who  +1/-0     
Author:TheCrow
1/7/2022 11:21:47 AM

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It happens somewhere, so it must be happening where you say it is by who you accuse.



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Msg ID: 2716112 HUH???????? (NT) +0/-1     
Author:observer II
1/7/2022 2:25:34 PM

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Msg ID: 2716068 Trying to explain logic to those with blinders +1/-0     
Author:Grim Reaper
1/7/2022 9:35:26 AM

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Try to explain this to people who aren't listening. 

The obvious and clear still won't clean their ears. Why bother?



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Msg ID: 2716077 Whose not listening..? +1/-1     
Author:Shooting Shark
1/7/2022 10:38:45 AM

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http://www.netfriction.com/DisplayMsg.asp?ForumID=91&Msgid=2715796&page=1&Title=Inflation%20

Brandon is a National Disgrace--- FACT

 

Reasoned debate?

by the way, ad hominem attacks on posters here are a violation of Buddha's new rules

turn about is fair play....So I'll call you a 

Useful Idiot!

 



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Msg ID: 2716086 "Whose not listening..?" A shining city on a hill no more. +0/-0     
Author:TheCrow
1/7/2022 11:18:57 AM

Reply to: 2716077

The January 6  attack on the capitol revealed to the world that Donald Trump is another wanna-be autocrat, president for life. There's nothing new in that, he's plainly and clearly revealed this many times in interviews- wishing his term as POTUS could be extended because of media criticism and believing he could 'negotiate a third term as president'. Those are un-Constitutional, and would violate every oath he's ever taken to defend and protect the Constitution.

Trump has also frequently stated that he does not believe in elections. He believes he has the god-given right to be the chief executive of our country. The revelation of the January 6 riot was that his followers also believe that and are not only willing to attack American democratic institutions and practice, but feel justified in violent mob action to achieve their particular wishes. These are the same people who criticized the lawless criminal protest demonstrations in the American Northwest.

 America is in danger of becoming another third world nation(s) with a 'president for life'. There's always another 'president for life' waiting, plotting to overthrow whoever is seated in the chief executive's chair. Always one bullet away from taking that seat....

Is that how America should be or should we be a nation of laws, traditions, mutual respect if not agreement and democratic processes, as imperfect as they may be?

Jan. 6th Changed How the World Sees America

A shining city on a hill no more.
 
JANUARY 7, 2022 5:30 AM
Jan. 6th Changed How the World Sees America
Trump arrives to speak to supporters from The Ellipse near the White House on January 6, 2021, in Washington, DC. - Thousands of Trump supporters, fueled by his spurious claims of voter fraud, are flooding the nation's capital protesting the expected certification of Joe Biden's White House victory by the US Congress. (Photo by Brendan Smialowski / AFP) (Photo by BRENDAN SMIALOWSKI/AFP via Getty Images)

The global reactions immediately following the January 6 riot at the Capitol last year can be filtered into two categories: horror and delight, depending on their origin. British Prime Minister Boris Johnson lamented the “Disgraceful scenes in U.S. Congress. The United States stands for democracy around the world and it is now vital that there should be a peaceful and orderly transfer of power.” Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte described the images from Washington, D.C. as “horrible.” French Foreign Affairs Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian called the insurrection a “grave attack against democracy.” Other assessments from America’s fellow liberal democracies included the words “devastating,”“disturbing,” and “horrendous,” and NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg decried the “Shocking scenes in Washington, D.C.”

Representatives of authoritarian states welcomed the violent scenes of political dissolution in the most powerful democracy in the world. A spokeswoman for China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Hua Chunying, cited U.S. officials’ support for democratic protesters in Hong Kong a year earlier and jeered: “You may still remember that at the time, American officials, congressmen and some media—what phrases did they use for Hong Kong? What phrases are they using for America now?” Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei announced: “This is their democracy and this is their election fiasco. Today, the U.S. & ‘American values’ are ridiculed even by their friends.” Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova declared that the “events in Washington show that the U.S. electoral process is archaic, does not meet modern standards and is prone to violations.” “The celebration of democracy is over. . . I say this without a shadow of gloating,” gloated Russian lawmaker Konstantin Kosachyov. “America no longer charts the course and therefore has lost all right to set it.”

Despite Kosachyov transparent opportunism and feigned sympathy for the embattled cause of democracy around the world, he had a point—according to Pew Research Center, just 17 percent of the countries it surveyed (including the U.K., Germany, France, South Korea, and Japan) say American democracy is a “good example for other countries to follow,” while 57 percent say it “used to be a good example, but has not been in recent years.” Even for people who still believe in America’s founding ideals and institutions, Trumpism and the events of Jan. 6 were reminders that the United States is a large, complicated democracy, which is vulnerable to many of the same political dynamics and deformations as any other country. Or, as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Mark Milley reportedly told his Chinese counterpart in the midst of the coup attempt, “democracy can be sloppy sometimes.”

In some areas, however, American credibility has been fairly resilient in the post-Trump era. Pew found that the proportion of respondents who expressed confidence in the American president to “do the right thing regarding world affairs” increased from 17 percent at the end of the Trump presidency to 75 percent when President Biden took office. And 67 percent still say America is a “somewhat” or “very” reliable partner (granted, these responses are heavily tilted toward “somewhat”). One reason some forms of trust in the United States remain stable is the overwhelming support for several of Biden’s foreign policy reversals from the Trump era, such as rejoining the WHO and the Paris Climate Agreement (89 percent and 85 percent, respectively) and increasing the refugee admissions cap (76 percent).

But the Biden administration hasn’t exactly been a model of competence over the past year. The catastrophic withdrawal from Afghanistan, most notably, inflicted a severe blow to global confidence in American leadership. Morning Consultfound that the United States’ favorability rating in the U.K. dropped by 10 points after the fall of Kabul. Washington’s decision to abruptly and haphazardly abandon Afghanistan probably had a role in emboldening Russian President Vladimir Putin to position 100,000 troops on Ukraine’s borders and demand that Kyiv halt its efforts to integrate with the Euro-Atlantic world. America presents itself as a champion of democracy in countries like Ukraine and Taiwan, but the depth of Washington’s commitment to those countries in the face of increasingly ominous pressure from their authoritarian neighbors is ambiguous at best. And in the case of Ukraine, Trump’s scheme to withhold congressionally authorized military aid as part of a plot to undermine his political opponent demonstrated that it’s possible for a U.S. president to subvert American democracy and prevent a democratic ally from defending itself at the same time. The failure of every congressional Republican save Sen. Mitt Romney to vote to impeach Trump for this behavior didn’t help matters.

Trump’s refusal to accept the results of the 2020 election, the first genuine challenge to the peaceful transition of power in the United States since the Civil War, further eroded the image of stability and order long projected by the United States, especially because Trump’s challenge was mounted on the flimsiest of pretexts. During an unhinged press conference in November 2020, Rudy Giuliani alleged “massive fraud” without a scrap of evidence. Sidney Powell, another member of Trump’s legal team, claimed that Dominion Voting Systems used vote-counting machines commissioned by Hugo Chavez and accused the company of conspiring with George Soros and Venezuelan intelligence agents in a plot to steal the election. Trump told Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger “I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have.” The sight of an outgoing American president using the crudest banana republic tactics to cling to power has tarnished the United States’ reputation as a mature democracy—and it has done so at a time when America’s democratic example is more important than ever.

When Trump was impeached, a second time, for inciting the January 6 insurrection, Romney was joined by six of his Republican colleagues, but the Senate still fell ten votes short of conviction. Just as the entire world was watching when the Capitol was breached on live television, it was still watching when Congress failed to hold Trump accountable for creating the conditions for the insurrection. Much has been made of Trump’s pre-riot speech: “If you don’t fight like hell,” he told the crowd right before urging it to march toward the Capitol, “you’re not going to have a country anymore.” But the insurrectionist riot wouldn’t have been possible without Trump’s tireless campaign to delegitimize the election in advance. “This is going to be a fraud like you’ve never seen,” he announced. The election would be “rigged.” In a repeat of his behavior before the 2016 election, he declined to make a public commitment that he would respect the results. And sure enough, after his defeat, it was suddenly incumbent upon all patriots to “Stop the Steal”—the name of the rally on January 6.

Three days before the anniversary of the January 6 insurrection, Trump endorsed Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán. Trump supports Orbán because he’s a fellow nationalist and populist who shares his own contempt for the independent judiciary, the free press, and international institutions like the EU (Orbán’s Fidesz party was suspended from the European People’s Party in the European Parliament for its anti-democratic behavior). Like Trump, Orbán incessantly demonizes Muslims and immigrants, describing refugees as “Muslim invaders” and declaring in 2015 that “all the terrorists are basically migrants.” After the San Bernardino terrorist attack that same year, Trump demanded a “total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States.” Since the siege of the Capitol, the Trumpist right has become increasingly enamored with Orbán. In August, Tucker Carlson spent a week broadcasting from Budapest, where he introduced his viewers to Orbán and described Hungary as a “small country with a lot of lessons for the rest of us.” Orbán represents a broader trend toward nationalist authoritarianism around the world, from Europe to India to Brazil. Jair Bolsonaro has already made it clear that he’ll challenge the integrity of Brazil’s electoral system if he loses this year’s presidential election.

Freedom House reports that “nearly 75 percent of the world’s population lived in a country that faced [democratic] deterioration last year.” This assessment doesn’t exempt the United States. Beyond Trump’s relentless campaign to undermine a legitimate American election, Freedom House observes that the “outburst of political violence at the symbolic heart of US democracy, incited by the president himself, threw the country into even greater crisis.”

A crisis for American democracy is a crisis for democracy everywhere in the world. While unprecedented democratic progress has been made since the end of the Cold War—often thanks to the influence of U.S.-led international institutions and American security guarantees—it has been decades since democracy faced so many setbacks in such rapid succession. Over the past decade, the Arab Spring devolved into violence, corruption, and the reassertion of autocratic rule across the Middle East and North Africa. China has demonstrated that rapid and sustainable economic development can take place in a totalitarian state, at least for a time, and Beijing is becoming increasingly brazen in its encroachments on Taiwanese sovereignty. And while Putin knows Moscow poses no compelling economic or ideological challenge to liberal democracy, this is all the more reason he may be willing to use Russia’s military power to rip Ukraine away from the West by force. The last thing he wants is a democratic, wealthy, and cosmopolitan neighbor, which would serve as a permanent counterpoint to his brutal and ossified kleptocracy.

Of course the United States’ authoritarian rivals have every incentive to present January 6 as the inauguration of a new era of democratic decay. But what’s even more alarming is how many Americans agree with them—according to a recent NPR/Ipsos poll, 64 percent of Americans agree that “American democracy is in crisis and at risk of failing.” Despite the fact that the 2020 election was promptly certified and Trump’s ludicrous legal challenges were thrown out by the courts, the political forces ranging from rampant polarization and disinformation to collapsing institutional trust leave American democratic institutions historically vulnerable to manipulation by a populist demagogue.

As this rot continues to spread, the GOP refuses to disown Trump. In fact, Republicans can’t wait for him to run again, while 52 percent of Trump voters believe there was “major fraudulent voting” in 2020. Republican candidates are increasingly surrendering to this delusion in an effort to remain competitive in primaries where the legitimacy of the election is sure to be a significant issue.

The United States isn’t going to regain its standing as an exemplary democracy any time soon. Even if global perceptions stabilize over the next few years, the specter of Trump’s return to the biggest stage in American politics will remain ever-present—refusing to convict him for his role in fomenting the insurrection was one thing, but what if the GOP rewards him with another presidential nomination? What effect will the widespread acquiescence in (and the active propagation of) his lies about the 2020 election have on the Republican party’s commitment to American democracy? How certain can America’s allies (or enemies) be that Trumpism won’t continue to dominate the Republican party even long after Trump has gone?

Trump’s noxious influence is simultaneously a cause and a symptom of democratic decline in the United States. Fading trust in institutions has been a constant for years: Just 12 percent of Americans say they trust Congress a “great deal” or “quite a lot,” for instance. But the prospect of Americans losing trust in democracy itself demonstrates that it’s possible for even the oldest and strongest democracies to be captured by authoritarianism. If the United States manages to reestablish itself as a shining beaconcity on a hill, etc., the images of tear gas, shattered windows, and members of Congress fleeing the “people’s house” under armed guard will always exist to remind the world of the day that some Americans, including the president, decided to exchange democracy for the will of the mob.

Matt Johnson

Matt Johnson has written for Stanford Social Innovation ReviewQuilletteEditor & PublisherAreo MagazineArc DigitalForbesSplice Today, and The Kansas City Star. He was formerly the opinion page editor at The Topeka Capital-Journal.


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Msg ID: 2716087 "Whose not listening..?" A shining city on a hill no more. +0/-0     
Author:TheCrow
1/7/2022 11:19:34 AM

Reply to: 2716077

The January 6  attack on the capitol revealed to the world that Donald Trump is another wanna-be autocrat, president for life. There's nothing new in that, he's plainly and clearly revealed this many times in interviews- wishing his term as POTUS could be extended because of media criticism and believing he could 'negotiate a third term as president'. Those are un-Constitutional, and would violate every oath he's ever taken to defend and protect the Constitution.

Trump has also frequently stated that he does not believe in elections. He believes he has the god-given right to be the chief executive of our country. The revelation of the January 6 riot was that his followers also believe that and are not only willing to attack American democratic institutions and practice, but feel justified in violent mob action to achieve their particular wishes. These are the same people who criticized the lawless criminal protest demonstrations in the American Northwest.

 America is in danger of becoming another third world nation(s) with a 'president for life'. There's always another 'president for life' waiting, plotting to overthrow whoever is seated in the chief executive's chair. Always one bullet away from taking that seat....

Is that how America should be or should we be a nation of laws, traditions, mutual respect if not agreement and democratic processes, as imperfect as they may be?

Jan. 6th Changed How the World Sees America

A shining city on a hill no more.
 
JANUARY 7, 2022 5:30 AM
Jan. 6th Changed How the World Sees America
Trump arrives to speak to supporters from The Ellipse near the White House on January 6, 2021, in Washington, DC. - Thousands of Trump supporters, fueled by his spurious claims of voter fraud, are flooding the nation's capital protesting the expected certification of Joe Biden's White House victory by the US Congress. (Photo by Brendan Smialowski / AFP) (Photo by BRENDAN SMIALOWSKI/AFP via Getty Images)

The global reactions immediately following the January 6 riot at the Capitol last year can be filtered into two categories: horror and delight, depending on their origin. British Prime Minister Boris Johnson lamented the “Disgraceful scenes in U.S. Congress. The United States stands for democracy around the world and it is now vital that there should be a peaceful and orderly transfer of power.” Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte described the images from Washington, D.C. as “horrible.” French Foreign Affairs Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian called the insurrection a “grave attack against democracy.” Other assessments from America’s fellow liberal democracies included the words “devastating,”“disturbing,” and “horrendous,” and NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg decried the “Shocking scenes in Washington, D.C.”

Representatives of authoritarian states welcomed the violent scenes of political dissolution in the most powerful democracy in the world. A spokeswoman for China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Hua Chunying, cited U.S. officials’ support for democratic protesters in Hong Kong a year earlier and jeered: “You may still remember that at the time, American officials, congressmen and some media—what phrases did they use for Hong Kong? What phrases are they using for America now?” Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei announced: “This is their democracy and this is their election fiasco. Today, the U.S. & ‘American values’ are ridiculed even by their friends.” Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova declared that the “events in Washington show that the U.S. electoral process is archaic, does not meet modern standards and is prone to violations.” “The celebration of democracy is over. . . I say this without a shadow of gloating,” gloated Russian lawmaker Konstantin Kosachyov. “America no longer charts the course and therefore has lost all right to set it.”

Despite Kosachyov transparent opportunism and feigned sympathy for the embattled cause of democracy around the world, he had a point—according to Pew Research Center, just 17 percent of the countries it surveyed (including the U.K., Germany, France, South Korea, and Japan) say American democracy is a “good example for other countries to follow,” while 57 percent say it “used to be a good example, but has not been in recent years.” Even for people who still believe in America’s founding ideals and institutions, Trumpism and the events of Jan. 6 were reminders that the United States is a large, complicated democracy, which is vulnerable to many of the same political dynamics and deformations as any other country. Or, as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Mark Milley reportedly told his Chinese counterpart in the midst of the coup attempt, “democracy can be sloppy sometimes.”

In some areas, however, American credibility has been fairly resilient in the post-Trump era. Pew found that the proportion of respondents who expressed confidence in the American president to “do the right thing regarding world affairs” increased from 17 percent at the end of the Trump presidency to 75 percent when President Biden took office. And 67 percent still say America is a “somewhat” or “very” reliable partner (granted, these responses are heavily tilted toward “somewhat”). One reason some forms of trust in the United States remain stable is the overwhelming support for several of Biden’s foreign policy reversals from the Trump era, such as rejoining the WHO and the Paris Climate Agreement (89 percent and 85 percent, respectively) and increasing the refugee admissions cap (76 percent).

But the Biden administration hasn’t exactly been a model of competence over the past year. The catastrophic withdrawal from Afghanistan, most notably, inflicted a severe blow to global confidence in American leadership. Morning Consultfound that the United States’ favorability rating in the U.K. dropped by 10 points after the fall of Kabul. Washington’s decision to abruptly and haphazardly abandon Afghanistan probably had a role in emboldening Russian President Vladimir Putin to position 100,000 troops on Ukraine’s borders and demand that Kyiv halt its efforts to integrate with the Euro-Atlantic world. America presents itself as a champion of democracy in countries like Ukraine and Taiwan, but the depth of Washington’s commitment to those countries in the face of increasingly ominous pressure from their authoritarian neighbors is ambiguous at best. And in the case of Ukraine, Trump’s scheme to withhold congressionally authorized military aid as part of a plot to undermine his political opponent demonstrated that it’s possible for a U.S. president to subvert American democracy and prevent a democratic ally from defending itself at the same time. The failure of every congressional Republican save Sen. Mitt Romney to vote to impeach Trump for this behavior didn’t help matters.

Trump’s refusal to accept the results of the 2020 election, the first genuine challenge to the peaceful transition of power in the United States since the Civil War, further eroded the image of stability and order long projected by the United States, especially because Trump’s challenge was mounted on the flimsiest of pretexts. During an unhinged press conference in November 2020, Rudy Giuliani alleged “massive fraud” without a scrap of evidence. Sidney Powell, another member of Trump’s legal team, claimed that Dominion Voting Systems used vote-counting machines commissioned by Hugo Chavez and accused the company of conspiring with George Soros and Venezuelan intelligence agents in a plot to steal the election. Trump told Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger “I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have.” The sight of an outgoing American president using the crudest banana republic tactics to cling to power has tarnished the United States’ reputation as a mature democracy—and it has done so at a time when America’s democratic example is more important than ever.

When Trump was impeached, a second time, for inciting the January 6 insurrection, Romney was joined by six of his Republican colleagues, but the Senate still fell ten votes short of conviction. Just as the entire world was watching when the Capitol was breached on live television, it was still watching when Congress failed to hold Trump accountable for creating the conditions for the insurrection. Much has been made of Trump’s pre-riot speech: “If you don’t fight like hell,” he told the crowd right before urging it to march toward the Capitol, “you’re not going to have a country anymore.” But the insurrectionist riot wouldn’t have been possible without Trump’s tireless campaign to delegitimize the election in advance. “This is going to be a fraud like you’ve never seen,” he announced. The election would be “rigged.” In a repeat of his behavior before the 2016 election, he declined to make a public commitment that he would respect the results. And sure enough, after his defeat, it was suddenly incumbent upon all patriots to “Stop the Steal”—the name of the rally on January 6.

Three days before the anniversary of the January 6 insurrection, Trump endorsed Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán. Trump supports Orbán because he’s a fellow nationalist and populist who shares his own contempt for the independent judiciary, the free press, and international institutions like the EU (Orbán’s Fidesz party was suspended from the European People’s Party in the European Parliament for its anti-democratic behavior). Like Trump, Orbán incessantly demonizes Muslims and immigrants, describing refugees as “Muslim invaders” and declaring in 2015 that “all the terrorists are basically migrants.” After the San Bernardino terrorist attack that same year, Trump demanded a “total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States.” Since the siege of the Capitol, the Trumpist right has become increasingly enamored with Orbán. In August, Tucker Carlson spent a week broadcasting from Budapest, where he introduced his viewers to Orbán and described Hungary as a “small country with a lot of lessons for the rest of us.” Orbán represents a broader trend toward nationalist authoritarianism around the world, from Europe to India to Brazil. Jair Bolsonaro has already made it clear that he’ll challenge the integrity of Brazil’s electoral system if he loses this year’s presidential election.

Freedom House reports that “nearly 75 percent of the world’s population lived in a country that faced [democratic] deterioration last year.” This assessment doesn’t exempt the United States. Beyond Trump’s relentless campaign to undermine a legitimate American election, Freedom House observes that the “outburst of political violence at the symbolic heart of US democracy, incited by the president himself, threw the country into even greater crisis.”

A crisis for American democracy is a crisis for democracy everywhere in the world. While unprecedented democratic progress has been made since the end of the Cold War—often thanks to the influence of U.S.-led international institutions and American security guarantees—it has been decades since democracy faced so many setbacks in such rapid succession. Over the past decade, the Arab Spring devolved into violence, corruption, and the reassertion of autocratic rule across the Middle East and North Africa. China has demonstrated that rapid and sustainable economic development can take place in a totalitarian state, at least for a time, and Beijing is becoming increasingly brazen in its encroachments on Taiwanese sovereignty. And while Putin knows Moscow poses no compelling economic or ideological challenge to liberal democracy, this is all the more reason he may be willing to use Russia’s military power to rip Ukraine away from the West by force. The last thing he wants is a democratic, wealthy, and cosmopolitan neighbor, which would serve as a permanent counterpoint to his brutal and ossified kleptocracy.

Of course the United States’ authoritarian rivals have every incentive to present January 6 as the inauguration of a new era of democratic decay. But what’s even more alarming is how many Americans agree with them—according to a recent NPR/Ipsos poll, 64 percent of Americans agree that “American democracy is in crisis and at risk of failing.” Despite the fact that the 2020 election was promptly certified and Trump’s ludicrous legal challenges were thrown out by the courts, the political forces ranging from rampant polarization and disinformation to collapsing institutional trust leave American democratic institutions historically vulnerable to manipulation by a populist demagogue.

As this rot continues to spread, the GOP refuses to disown Trump. In fact, Republicans can’t wait for him to run again, while 52 percent of Trump voters believe there was “major fraudulent voting” in 2020. Republican candidates are increasingly surrendering to this delusion in an effort to remain competitive in primaries where the legitimacy of the election is sure to be a significant issue.

The United States isn’t going to regain its standing as an exemplary democracy any time soon. Even if global perceptions stabilize over the next few years, the specter of Trump’s return to the biggest stage in American politics will remain ever-present—refusing to convict him for his role in fomenting the insurrection was one thing, but what if the GOP rewards him with another presidential nomination? What effect will the widespread acquiescence in (and the active propagation of) his lies about the 2020 election have on the Republican party’s commitment to American democracy? How certain can America’s allies (or enemies) be that Trumpism won’t continue to dominate the Republican party even long after Trump has gone?

Trump’s noxious influence is simultaneously a cause and a symptom of democratic decline in the United States. Fading trust in institutions has been a constant for years: Just 12 percent of Americans say they trust Congress a “great deal” or “quite a lot,” for instance. But the prospect of Americans losing trust in democracy itself demonstrates that it’s possible for even the oldest and strongest democracies to be captured by authoritarianism. If the United States manages to reestablish itself as a shining beaconcity on a hill, etc., the images of tear gas, shattered windows, and members of Congress fleeing the “people’s house” under armed guard will always exist to remind the world of the day that some Americans, including the president, decided to exchange democracy for the will of the mob.

Matt Johnson

Matt Johnson has written for Stanford Social Innovation ReviewQuilletteEditor & PublisherAreo MagazineArc DigitalForbesSplice Today, and The Kansas City Star. He was formerly the opinion page editor at The Topeka Capital-Journal.


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