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Msg ID: 2716306 Just how bad it is for unvaccinated in New Jersey +1/-0     
Author:bladeslap
1/9/2022 2:15:14 PM




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Msg ID: 2716307 Still believe vaccinations don't work? (NT) +1/-0     
Author:bladeslap
1/9/2022 2:15:41 PM

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Msg ID: 2716309 Depends on your definition of works +1/-1     
Author:Old Guy
1/9/2022 2:40:29 PM

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I would not fly an aircraft with the success percentage of this vaccine.

when this vaccine first came out we were told it keep us from getting the virus, WOW what a lie!

I do believe the vaccine has some advantag, but "WORKS" is a real stretch!



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Msg ID: 2716337 Depends on your definition of works +1/-0     
Author:bladeslap
1/9/2022 8:12:38 PM

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So you don't think the vaccine is effective that

1 Vaccinated person died and 135 Unavaccinate people died? That's 99.2% chance of preventing death

And of the 1804 people in the hospital, only 17 were fully vaccinated ... that means 99.1% protection ... and also keep in mind, there are far more vaccinated people than unvaccinated in New Jersey - So, you're probably closer to 99.5% protection.

I would say that's a pretty darn successful vaccine. Your anology about flying makes ZERO sense.



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Msg ID: 2716342 Depends on your definition of works +0/-1     
Author:Old Guy
1/9/2022 8:54:56 PM

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Bladesape umbers and percentages are all over the spectrum.  They really indicate that the vaccine is a failure at preventing the virus.  Now it might be the best thing there is, but NO I do not consider that it works.  If it worked those people would be alive.

Would you fly a aircraft with a record of getting to your destination of 99.2 %?



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Msg ID: 2716370 Depends on your definition of works +1/-0     
Author:bladeslap
1/10/2022 10:45:51 AM

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You just don't understand math, science, or healthcare to make that statement.

Read the numbers again...

This is why it's literally impossible to have a rational discussion with you. I don't know if you're simply naive or just refuse to admit that the vaccine actually is highly effective.

MORE THAN 99% of people hospitalized in New Jersey with Covid are Unavaccinated.

Old Guy, what is confusing about that statement? Where is the ambiguity?

More than 99% of people hospitalized with COVID in N.J. have been unvaccinated, Murphy says - nj.com

 



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Msg ID: 2716361 Hospitals aren't over run in the traditional sense +0/-1     
Author:observer II
1/10/2022 8:19:09 AM

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What they aren't telling you is the fact that almost every hospital in blue states are UNDER STAFFED, why? Because they got fired for not complying.

So they are not at full capacity of the hospital. They may be at full capacity of the staff.

No different than resturants closing early because they DO NOT have the staff to stay open. And many never open their inside dining.

These numbers are once again an attempt to scare people.

The unvaccinated ARE NOT the problem.

Every piece of data shows the variant is nothing more than a head cold. Yet the hospitals are over run supposedly. Doesn't add up at all.



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Msg ID: 2716344 Still believe vaccinations don't work? +1/-1     
Author:Old Guy
1/9/2022 9:11:16 PM

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Bladeslap I looked up other vaccines to determine what might be the success rate of those.  Chicken Pox, Measles, and Polio, for starters, all have a success rate of around 99%.  But there is one huge difference all of those vaccines have over the Covid-19 vaccine, the success rate is that you will NEVER get it.  Not that once you get it it is the success rate your will not die.  They all keep you from getting what ever it is for.  Just from that point of view the vaccine for Covid does not work!



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Msg ID: 2716363 From below. Wonder why no one believes the MSM +0/-1     
Author:observer II
1/10/2022 8:22:17 AM

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Walensky says Sotomayor's pediatric COVID hospitalization number was off 96.5%

 

The Supreme Court justice claimed there are more than 100,000 children in 'serious condition' from COVID-19



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Msg ID: 2716359 New Jersey is the first problem. Most corrupt state in the country +0/-1     
Author:observer II
1/10/2022 8:13:41 AM

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In regards to that statement you posted. Sorry if I don't believe any of it.

Liberal democrats like to blame all the current cases on the unvaccinated. And yet, not a single one of you have questioned the fact that this president has given a free pass to millions of illegal aliens.

Why is that if this virus is soooo deadly like they say it is? Why do you not attack this president on his disregard to health and safety??

And then there's the little matter about Fauci, the CDC, and the FDA all telling us that if you get the shot, you will be protected. Biggest, most devastating lie this country has ever heard.

The numbers you see on the MSM are all skewed to further their sick agenda. I know you hate hearing this but it's actually true.

Most hospital cases are not covid related as your srticles say. People go in to the hospital for a procedure, get tested, come up positive, and now they are listed as a covid patient. False data.

The shot does not protect you from getting it, or spreading it. Otherwise there would be no reason to harrass those that are not vaccinated. This covid shot does not work.

This admiistration has caused such a panic in this country, it's hard to believe people can even live anymore without walking around in a radiation suite.

A simple head cold has people in a panic. GOT TO GET TESTED.........NOT ONCE...........NOT TWICE...........NOT THREE TIMES

Getting a test anymore is very difficult. I know, I'm sitting at hime today because I'm not allowed to go to work because I haven't gotten my results back yet. Facilities are out of tests.

 



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Msg ID: 2716373 New Jersey is the first problem. Most corrupt state in the country +1/-0     
Author:bladeslap
1/10/2022 11:04:47 AM

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The evidence is crystal clear Observer

over 99% of covid hospitalizaitons are unvaccinated. 

You don't want to believe it because it destroys your argument.

Obsy, you're wrong ... dead wrong. I wish you coudl see that



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Msg ID: 2716376 Really +1/-1     
Author:Old Guy
1/10/2022 11:28:35 AM

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I do not even consider that vaccines are the COVID issue anymore.  As time goes by and the incompetence of this  administration shows up, now the issue is supplies available for testing and treatment are not available!  

The Supreme Court is going to rule that vaccines can not be mandated, makes this part of the debate over.  All of it becomes personal choice.  

But, not having supplies available shows the total failire of this administration.



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