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Msg ID: 2716725 Vaccines work? +3/-1     
Author:Klip Klop
1/12/2022 1:10:30 PM

Child-ren

If vaccines did not work, you think every country in the world would be pushing? Not 100% effective, but effective. 



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Msg ID: 2716730 Vaccines work? +1/-1     
Author:Old Guy
1/12/2022 1:58:51 PM

Reply to: 2716725

Hi nice of you to add to this.

There are many countries that not one person has gotten a vaccine, supplies are reasons for some and a few countries don't want the vaccine.

The question comes down to what is the meaning of "works".

Everyone I know feels the vaccine helps once you get Covid, but does not stop you from getting it or passing it on to others.  So, I think the meaning of "works" is left up to you.

It is obvious not, "save the planet,". kind of thing!

 



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Msg ID: 2716745 Vaccines work? +1/-0     
Author:bladeslap
1/12/2022 2:53:35 PM

Reply to: 2716730

OG 

No vaccine is 100% effective.

2 Dose Modera or PFizer, within 6 months on average, is highy effective in preventing Pre-Omicron covid and even more highly effective in precenting severe illness or death

3 Dose Moderna or Pfizer are still highly effective against symptomatic Omicron and highly effective in preventing severe disease or death.

2 Dose Pfizer is still 50-70% effective in preventing severe illness or death ...

Latest data from New Jersey shows (this is from memory) that 99% of people in the ICU from covid were unvaccinated...and most people in New Jersey are vaccinated...So it shows the effectiveness at over 99%.

The vaccine was created well before Delta and Omicron were in existence. So, they have to learn and innovate.

 

I'm not doing this as a political statement...I legitimately do not want you or anyone to get severe illness, no matter how much we disagree on things. I've already lost some people to covid. My friend just died of covid last week. He was in his late 80s, but this thing is still a killer. Im not trying to argue with you for sake of argument..just so people have the facts, aside from politics

 



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Msg ID: 2716753 Phizer CEO says the shots do not protect you. +0/-1     
Author:observer II
1/12/2022 4:16:50 PM

Reply to: 2716745

So I guess when a CEO says that, you should listen.

 

All I ever hear is that it lessens the symptoms.

 

Not true, everyone is different

 

That's where the choice comes in

 

It's still America



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Msg ID: 2716777 Phizer CEO says the shots do not protect you. +0/-0     
Author:bladeslap
1/12/2022 7:02:46 PM

Reply to: 2716753

Obsy,

Cut and paste what the CEO said.

This is why you test people's patience.

The CEO did not say "It does not protect you"... He specifically mentioend you don't get robust protection w only 2 shots against Omicron, but there is some level of protection.

Read it again



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Msg ID: 2717044 Phizer CEO says the shots do not protect you. +0/-1     
Author:observer II
1/14/2022 4:26:50 PM

Reply to: 2716777

He actually said that the first two shots provide little to no protection of the omni.

And he wasn't sure the booster provided any either. Too early to tell

Point is, once again, the shot is not what they told us it would be. Not surprising though.

actually they have lied about pretty much everything. And they wonder why the American people don't trust a thing they say.

ANd then we have a president that blames the virus on the unvaccinated. Calling it the unvaccinated pandemic if memory serves me correct inferring this only to the Trump supporters.

Not realizing that there is a huge majority of minorities not vaccinated. You know, the people Biden claims to sympathize with. lol

Maybe those people aren't really black?????????? Because he knows



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