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Msg ID: 2721193 And how would you be handling Ukraine, Obsy? +0/-0     
Author:bladeslap
2/23/2022 9:20:34 AM

Would you go to war over this?

Would you try to threaten Russia in some other way?

Are you aware of the sanctions going on?

Do you realize how this is uniting us with other countries now that this is happening? Non-Nato countries, close to russia, are now considering entering NATO as a result of this, further strengthening NATO

Do you think it's wise for a former president to praise the dictator of Russia, calling him genius in a time when the world is trying to negotiate with Putin to try to stop this?

 



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Msg ID: 2721219 I can give you my answer  +1/-0     
Author:Old Guy
2/23/2022 11:11:22 AM

Reply to: 2721193

The US used to negotiate from a postion of strength.  Under Biden the doctrine is crisis through weakness.  This started with Obama, who had the line in the sand and once violated, did nothing.  Obama's weak position of strength failed miserably as Russia took over Crimea.  It is now Biden's time to sell the farm as he totally Fucks up.  Weakness in the Biden's administration's approach to energy, in the countless failures ( most import the tragic Afghanistan fuck up), and in their lack of commitment to law and order at the US border.  You can't explain one crisis today that Biden didn't cause.

Bladeslap, we know you don't respect the constitution or the bill of right and will respond with some kind of blowup reasoning with lies, but go ahead I am waiting.



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Msg ID: 2721222 I can give you my answer  +0/-1     
Author:bladeslap
2/23/2022 11:34:33 AM

Reply to: 2721219

Again,

If you were the president, what would you do?

Biden is going to impose sanctions that will cripple Russia if they go in - These are above and beyond depriving Russia teh ability to sell their natural gas and oil - Cutting off the pipeline goign to Germany. 

What else do you suppose they should do? 

The new US sanctions triggered by Russian's latest actions in Ukraine included targets that in the past have gone untouched: the family members of those in Russian President Vladimir Putin's inner circle.

By designating the sons of two powerful players close to the Russian President, the Biden administration sent a clear signal that its target list for individual sanctions extends beyond public officials and financiers as part of a new effort to shut down pathways for top Putin associates to shield their wealth by giving it to family members.

Denis Bortnikov and Vladimir Kiriyenko, both designated for individual sanctions by the Treasury Department on Tuesday, hold their own prominent positions in Russian business. But both will now have any US-held assets frozen and be barred from dealing with any US persons solely because their fathers serve as Putin's domestic intelligence chief and as one of Putin's closest advisers, respectively.
"They share in the corrupt gains of the Kremlin policies and should share in the pain as well," Biden said Tuesday.
 
Sanctioning the sons of two of Putin's closest officials doesn't carry the impact of other measures announced on Tuesday, most notably imposing sanctions on two of Russia's most prominent banks and reducing the country's ability to access Western finance.
But they are meant to unsettle a very personal element of the Russian economy, one driven by the reality that Putin's inner circle and the family members tied to them represent an extraordinary consolidation of wealth and power inside the country.
"This is unprecedented because we are extending the reach of US sanctions to prevent the elites close to Putin from using their kids to hide assets, evade costs, and squander the resources of the Russian people," a senior Biden administration official told CNN. "This is a new approach."

 

 
 


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