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Msg ID: 2721778 I fully expect to be banned from this forum and I don't care... +0/-2     
Author:Jett
2/27/2022 10:35:20 PM

I respect that the owners and moderators of this forum set policy and rules that are expected to be followed by those who wish to participate in dialogue on this forum. That said, I don't play nice with and I don't respect people who don't meet my basic standards of decency. I will not lower my standards simply to play in the game.

The CPAC and AFPAC (America First Political Action Conference) conferences held recently were the latest reminder of the disgusting quality of people and the abhorrent policies and people that they champion. Which were of course fully supported by the handful of Extreme Right, Conspiracy Theorists, Racist, Trumplican Cultists who participate in this forum.

Republican Representative Liz Cheney of Wyoming and Republican Senator Mitt Romney of Utah were perfectly clear in their remarks.

Cheney said, "As Rep Marjorie Taylor Greene and Rep Paul Gosar speak at this white supremacist, anti-Semitic, pro-Putin event, silence by Republican Party leaders is deafening and enabling". "All Americans should renounce this garbage and reject the Putin wing of the GOP now".

Romney said, "Liz Cheney was right with that statement and has been right for a long time," the Republican senator said. "There's no place in either political party for this White nationalism or racism. It's simply wrong." 

Greene spoke at and Gosar spoke via recorded video, both participated in an event organized by White Nationalist Nick Fuentes who has been labeled a White Supremacist by the US Justice Department and the Anti Defamation League. 

Fuentes wrote recently, "I am totally rooting for Russia," while also referring to Russian President Vladimir Putin as "my Czar."

The Republican Jewish Coalition said, "It is appalling and outrageous that a Member of Congress would share a platform with an individual who has actively spread antisemitic bile, mocked the Holocaust, and promoted dangerous anti-Israel conspiracy theories".

Just in case anyone on this forum is asleep at the wheel, this is exactly who Shooting Shark, Zombie, Old Dude, Obsy, and Fondy are. This is what they stand for, make no mistake about it. This is the Extreme Right Trumplican Cultist in America today.

 

Racists

Conspiracy Theorists

Anti Vaxxers

QAnon

The Cult of Trump

Homophobes

 

I will never respect individuals of this quality and character, you're Morally Bankrupt...  

        



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Msg ID: 2721798 You speak truth +1/-1     
Author:Grim Reaper
2/28/2022 7:24:46 AM

Reply to: 2721778

Wicked hatred in their hearts. They march down a one-way street. 

Bravado in their hearts and minds. 



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Msg ID: 2721815 I Lib mind-control on display … +2/-1     
Author:Shooting Shark
2/28/2022 10:52:51 AM

Reply to: 2721778

You are exhibit A Jetsheep

the left creates a false boogie man 

and you run and hide under your bed.

to your charges:

Racism? 

Critical Race theory is a leftist thingy. It comes out of the "Frankfurt School of Critical theory" a bunch of Marxists who fled Germany in the 1930s snd spread their shit here. you leftists need to "keep hate alive" in order to Balkanize your party into mailable special interest groups. Race has always been your playground.

Tell ya what Jetsheep, these days conservatism is growing like a wild fire in the Black community. They're tired of your mindless violent racist protests( BLM ) and they have suffered increases in homicides and crime in general sonce you morons "Defunded the police" .. of course a simpleton like you would be too stoned most of the day to realize the fact that when local communities defund police and crime goes up ( by design, another leftist orchestrated crisis) the Federal Government runs in on a white horse and provides new Funding. This of course becomes a de facto federal police force disconnected from local communities. You fools are slaves born to tyranny anyway, so you embrace the meme and never see the hammer coming! 

Conspiracy Theorists?

Lets start with Hilary's infamous "Vast Right Wing Conspirscy" and end with Obama's unmet promises of "Transparency" (you don't need "Transparency" if you ain't hiding sumpthin) and as it turns out the left has a lot to hide.. you hide Hunter Biden to protect Creepy Joe, you hide Bill and Hillary from possible prosecution on any number of factual events-- you ignore Epstine Isalnd wher Democrats bang 15 year olds for sport. You conspire to spie on President Trump, make false allegations, fund fake dossiers, make fake arrest and believe fake news.

I'd call it conspirscy.. and as always you accuse others of what YOU do.

Anti Vaxxers?

Youd need to be blind as we ell as stupid not to see how Covid was played by the left. Everyone played the game to make money. Your party is a criminal political syndicate. Crazy Nancy should be charged under RICO but she'd get off.." not guilty by insanity" not to mention the DNC mob buys influence. RINOs are just willing fall guys who get scraps from the DNC under the table.

Dont worry Jetsheep ., the guy who claims to "be science" ( Fauci) will never face charges for unleashing a pandemic on the world. Too many fellow collaborators ( conspirators) and yes, there were better ways to fight it 

ivermectin for one, even Buddha acknowledged it. But you Vaxced gene therapy experimental victims won't see it coming in a few years when side effects start occuring. Politically you overplayed your hand with Covid-/ but when the Fed is printing 15 Trillion dollars to be distribukted For everything imaginable ( under the name of Covid) then it's kinda hard to turn off the gravy train isn't it? Ask the feckless rescues unions-- now there's a conspiracy! 

QAnON.. you need a straw man, you can have it. The fact that a few  followers of bathe mysterious "Q" actually believe this stuff does not movement make, but it points out how corrupt the left really is, regardless if Q actually exists. I for one don't follow the Qanon thingy, and I knoe of no none who does.

That said I personally know no one who actually voted for creepy Joe besides you, Buddha, the bipolar propagandist Crow, and my beloved 89 year old uncle. My uncle disliked trumps rudeness, his unstatesmanlike behavior. I later showed him Lady Gaga drinking mock blood from a mock human sacrifice at one of DNC chairman John Podestas little suares.. he was appalled, of course. Like many useful idiots he simply was ignorant -- (he reads the newspaper and doesn't have internet.) 

what's your excuse? 


Cult of Trump??

Trump never crosses my mind except when you toolz mention him in every sentence , Trump still rules your lives it seems . Now the fact Trump exposed your corruption makes you rage against him the way the devil rages against God from the depths of hell.. he knows judgmentbday is coming.. as the demons who possessed the demoniac cried out to Jesus at the Sea of Galilee " Son of Man, are you here to torment us before the appointed hour?"

You Jetsheep, are that demoniac. The DNC talking heads are the demons and they are "legion." the "appointed hour" of judgement is coming in November. Meanwhile democrat politicians are fleeing into the pigs and drowning themselves. Trump .. at this point he's more of a philosophy than a person, and he has millions of followers who think you and your kind are crazy. 
 
homophobia? 

Oh yes, your favorite subject, 

99% of this country isn't homosexual -- and the 1% that are probably realize your politicization of their lifestyle/ mental illness/ evolutionary maladaptive genetic mutation --or how ever you want to view it -- doesn't serve their interests in the long run. In reality, gayness is usually a symptom of sexual deviance which the left embraces in many other areas. Mainstream America is growing deaf to your weirdness, and that isn't homophobia -- no one fears homos -- they just font need the political propaganda or the school curriculum shoved down the throats of 10 year olds. 

Thats for now.

Dont worry about getting banned here-- Buddha's hypersensitive snowflake censorship has obviously failed. You can call me names and vice versa. That may offend Buddha's sensibilities but he isn't lord and master over what we think, weither we say it here or not. I completely disagree with you on most subjects, but I'll defend to the death to verbally insult me and what I stand for.

I also reserve the right to call you a 

Useful Idiot!

 

 

 

 

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Msg ID: 2721925 You still believe in Pizza gate, so you have zero credibility +1/-1     
Author:bladeslap
3/1/2022 1:43:57 PM

Reply to: 2721815

Pizza gate was compeltely debunked on both sides of the aisle. With the hatred Trump has towards Hillary and the dems, if there was something there, he would have made something of it.

The fact that you cannot, through logical reasoning dismiss that, is proof-positive that you are unable to put your emotions aside and evaluate whether you may have misintrepted something. In other words, you are incapable of rational thinking independent of both your emotions and ego.

Pizza was a manufacturered scandal promoted by russian bot farms; it's already been proven by our own intelligence.

Again, both the Capitol Polie and the FBI investigated this and foudn nothing. The funny thing is it was clear that Pizzagate was going on "in the basement of Comet Pizza". That was clear ...

Comet pizza has no basement. 

It's debunked, yet you are unable to let go of it and it proves once again that you incapable of critical thinking. 



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Msg ID: 2721962 You still “debunk”Creepy Joe.. zero credibility +1/-1     
Author:Shooting Shark
3/1/2022 5:15:59 PM

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Msg ID: 2721964 Hillary’s campaign manager..Obama’s advisor. zero credibility +1/-1     
Author:Shooting Shark
3/1/2022 5:35:22 PM

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Msg ID: 2721965 The Russian Hackers did it! They sabotaged Hillary.., +1/-1     
Author:Shooting Shark
3/1/2022 5:41:43 PM

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Msg ID: 2721979 The Russian Hackers did it! They sabotaged Hillary.., +1/-1     
Author:Shooting Shark
3/1/2022 6:45:02 PM

Reply to: 2721965

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/

So let me get this straight:

 

1. Wikileaks released Podestas (hacked) verified emails.

wheither or not Putin's boys were involved,

the emails in question are undisputedly Podestas. 

2. Podesta has never answered (or been asked) the questions raised by his coded language.

language the FBI has recognized as pedophillic Code.

3. The "art" galleries of these people is undisputed as well. Some really sick stuff.

not photoshopped,  by the way. Not to mention Marina Abrovomic.

If you think "Comet Pizza has no basement" --debunks--Pizzagate,

youre either:

1. Intellectually lazy, failing to follow and research the available facts, 

2, in denial, given the horror of these monsters, which is almost understandable.

3. Naive: yes people like this do exist in high places.


Check out the Nebraska Savings and loan scandal ( in that case evil Republicans) 

and overseas, Jimmy Savil frequenter of Buckingham palace 

and let's not forget Prince Andrew.. 


Oh yeah Buddha, Epstine hung himself in prison 

and another of Epstined associates recently did the same thing!

Coincidence.. Ghislane on "suicide watch" in prison as we speak

her family reputedly fears for her safety.

just another "debunked" conspiracy of youre a 

Useful Idiot! 



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Msg ID: 2724900 Ivermectin Does Not Reduce Risk of Covid Hospitalization, Large Study Finds +0/-0     
Author:TheCrow
4/2/2022 10:22:31 AM

Reply to: 2721815

I guess you're back to high doses of ultraviolet light or inhaling bleach?

Ivermectin Does Not Reduce Risk of Covid Hospitalization, Large Study Finds

“At some point it will become a waste of resources to continue studying an unpromising approach,” one expert said.

A new study, which looked at more than 1,300 people infected with the coronavirus, effectively ruled out ivermectin as a useful treatment for Covid, the researchers said.
A new study, which looked at more than 1,300 people infected with the coronavirus, effectively ruled out ivermectin as a useful treatment for Covid, the researchers said.Credit...Mike Stewart/Associated Press
 
Published March 30, 2022Updated April 1, 2022

The anti-parasitic drug ivermectin, which has surged in popularity as an alternative treatment for Covid-19 despite a lack of strong research to back it up, showed no sign of alleviating the disease, according to results of a large clinical trial published on Wednesday.

The study, which compared more than 1,300 people infected with the coronavirus in Brazil who received either ivermectin or a placebo, effectively ruled out the drug as a treatment for Covid, the study’s authors said.

“There’s really no sign of any benefit,” said Dr. David Boulware, an infectious-disease expert at the University of Minnesota.

The researchers shared a summary of these results in August during an online presentation hosted by the National Institutes of Health, but the full data set had not been published until now in The New England Journal of Medicine.

“Now that people can dive into the details and the data, hopefully that will steer the majority of doctors away from ivermectin towards other therapies,” Dr. Boulware said.

For decades, ivermectin has been widely used to treat parasitic infections. Early in the pandemic, when researchers were trying thousands of old drugs against Covid-19, laboratory experiments on cells suggested that ivermectin might block the coronavirus.

At the time, skeptics pointed out that the experiments worked thanks to high concentrations of the drug — far beyond safe levels for people. Nevertheless, some doctors began prescribing ivermectin for Covid-19, despite a warning from the Food and Drug Administration that it was not approved for such use.

Around the world, researchers carried out small clinical trials to see if the drug treated the disease. In December 2020, Andrew Hill, a virologist at the University of Liverpool in England, reviewed the results of 23 trials and concluded that ivermectin appeared to significantly lower the risk of death from Covid-19.

If larger trials confirmed those findings, Dr. Hill said in a presentation at the time, “this really is going to be a transformative treatment.”

Ivermectin’s popularity continued to climb in the pandemic’s second year. The podcaster Joe Rogan promoted it repeatedly on his shows. In a single week in August, U.S. insurance companies spent $2.4 million paying for ivermectin treatments

But not long after Dr. Hill published his review last summer, reports surfaced that many of the studies he included in the analysis were flawed and, in at least one case, alleged to be fraudulent. Dr. Hill retracted his original study and started a new one, which he published in January.

On their second review, Dr. Hill and his colleagues focused on the studies least likely to be biased. In that stricter survey, ivermectin’s benefit vanished.

Still, even the best studies on ivermectin and Covid were small, with a few hundred volunteers at most. Small studies can be vulnerable to statistical flukes that suggest positive effects where none actually exist. But larger studies on ivermectin were underway at the time, and those promised to be more rigorous.

In Brazil, researchers set up a clinical trial known as TOGETHER in June 2020 to test Covid patients with a number of widely used drugs, including ivermectin. The treatments were double-blinded, meaning that neither the patients nor their medical staff knew whether they received a Covid treatment drug or a placebo.

In one round of the trial, the researchers found promising evidence that an antidepressant drug called fluvoxamine reduced the need for hospitalization by one-third. The researchers published their results in October in The Lancet Global Health.

In a new study published on Wednesday, the TOGETHER team reported on its ivermectin data. Between March and August 2021, the researchers provided the drug to 679 patients over the course of three days.

The results were clear: Taking ivermectin did not reduce a Covid patient’s risk of ending up in the hospital.

The researchers zeroed in on different groups of volunteers to see if they experienced benefits that others didn’t. For example, it might be possible that ivermectin only worked if taken early in an infection. But volunteers who took ivermectin in the first three days after the onset of Covid symptoms turned out to have worse outcomes than did those in the placebo group.

Dr. Hill was impressed with the results. “They have run a high-quality, placebo-controlled trial,” he said. He also expressed impatience with the New England Journal of Medicine for taking months to publish the results: “I don’t understand the delay with this trial from NEJM.”

Julia Morin, a spokeswoman for the journal, declined to comment on the delay. “We don’t comment on the editorial process, as it’s confidential,” she said in an email.

Dr. Hill has run his analysis of ivermectin studies again, this time including the new data from the TOGETHER trial. All told, his analysis included more than 5,000 people. And once more, he saw no benefit from ivermectin.

Still, there are several ongoing randomized trials of ivermectin, with thousands of volunteers, that have yet to share their results. The National Center for Advancing Translational Sciences, which is part of the N.I.H., has for more than a year been running one closely watched trial of ivermectin and several other drugs for Covid patients. But it has yet to release results.

Dr. Sarah Dunsmore, a program director in the clinical innovations division at NCATS, said that researchers were analyzing the first batch of results on ivermectin and would release them in two to three months.

Dr. Boulware doubted that the additional trials would come to a different conclusion, since the TOGETHER trial was so large and carefully designed. “Rarely would you expect to find something different,” he said.

Dr. Paul Sax, an infectious-disease expert at Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston who was not involved in the TOGETHER trial, shared Dr. Boulware’s view.

“I welcome the results of the other clinical trials and will view them with an open mind, but at some point it will become a waste of resources to continue studying an unpromising approach,” he said.

Correction: 
March 31, 2022

An earlier version of this article misstated the name of the spokeswoman for The New England Journal of Medicine. She is Julia Morin, not Morins.

Correction: 
April 1, 2022

An earlier version of this article misstated when a group of volunteers in a research trial took the drug ivermectin. The group took the drug in the first three days after the onset of Covid symptoms, not in the first three days after a positive test.

Carl Zimmer writes the “Matter” column. He is the author of fourteen books, including “Life's Edge: The Search For What It Means To Be Alive.” @carlzimmer • Facebook

A version of this article appears in print on March 31, 2022, Section A, Page 18 of the New York edition with the headline: Covid Study of Ivermectin Finds ‘No Sign’ of Benefit. Order Reprints | Today’s Paper | Subscribe


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