Crowbot,

 1. You deny reasonable evidence for  belief, and you make gratitious assertions as fact.

Politically we have seen that tactic with your constant comments vis a vis Trump.

Do you deny the FAKE NEWS Russian Dossier? (funded by Hillary and company?)  the FAKE impeachment

(trying to discredit Trumps exposure of Creepy Joe and the Democrat Mafia in UKRAINE, under Obama)

Now the chickens have come home to roost-- Putin keeps threatening Nukes-- If Trump were president you'd be appoplectic in your decrying the 'presidential incompetence" that led to this state-- even as you FALSELY once asserted Trump would lead us to WWIII.. (Its the other way around, But dont let the facts get in your way!)

And now your home State (Georgia) is pointing to the election fraud perpetrated in Georgia which fradulently helped install Biden.

Even as Democrats fight for no ID or citizenship requirements to vote? (no comment from you) 

Creepy JOE's ABSOLUTE incompetence and utter disasters brewing at home and around the planet, and yet

  __YOU REMAIN SILENT__. 

Very Telling.

Youre a LIb.

Own it.

2. You throw a bunch of unfounded crap in the air and hope some of it will stick. Thats what Libs need to do since the TRUTH for them is no refuge. I'm not going to chase you down multiple rabbit holes, when you wont ever stick to the point, or admit reasonable evidences of TRUTH.

I am however, interested at the way you Libs think, ( postmodern irrationality oin display)  The more you dig a hole, the more informative it is to watch.

Lets begin to summarize a few of your comments so far. ( me ) ( you)

1. You challenged the historical existence of Saint Paul.(!) 

Provide some historical, non-religious record of Paul's/Saul's existence.

First of all, the standard you want to apply means nothing in either a religious or a secular context. There is plenty of HISTORICAL evidence in and out of the BIBLE for the lives and writings of  figures like Saint Paul-- Backed up by  fact. To assert otherwise, that Paul is a LITERARY INVENTION ( akin to the flying spagetti monster) is utter nonsense.

What do you know of Plato? Aristotle, DioCleatian, Ireneus, Constantine, Tertullian, Polycarp, Luther, Joseph Smith, Mohammad, Alester Crowley,  and any number of historical figures who left behind a written legacy and cultural or religious influence (both written in their own hand, and in the hands of scribes, and interpreters after their death?)  

On what basis do you actually question _PAUL'S_ EXISTENCE?

Perhaps it's more blasphemous to credit false prophets?

None, zero, nada of thse scriptures were written by your attributed authors. All were written at least a hundred years after their deaths. There is also some critical thought that the same author wrote all four and again: a hundred+ years after their death.

On what basis do you make that claim?

The FACTUAL  history of the New Testament in particular is well known and attested to; textually culturally, and circumstancially. I could give you a lengthy class on these developments ( and I belive I have in thae past).  I dont need to debunk the imagings of some have baked propagandist quoting some a Lib textual critic trying to make a name for himself  (who denies PAULS EXISTENCE(?!) against the backdrop of 200) years of ACTUAL HISTORY

No one simply sat down and invented the characters seen in the New Testament, or what they clearly said and did. (as you assert.)  And if you could PROVE they did, why should anyone place their FAITH in them or what they said and did?

You say its a story accepted on faith, but you also assert its just an invention?

(contradiction)

People BELIEVE things they have reasons to BELIEVE. Those reasons may vary, as do the outcomes of  faith, but to deny as you do the authenticity of the story itself, and the characters authenticity too, thats far from even rational.    

Ive debated professional Secular Humanists with more intellectual integrity than you have displayed, so far.  Try to keep up!

 You asked-- Evidence:

https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/people-cultures-in-the-bible/people-in-the-bible/the-quest-for-the-historical-paul/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_the_Apostle

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Saint-Paul-the-Apostle

<span style="color: #ff0000;">Forthright atheism would be far more honest than your approach . Atheists I have known dont deny these people existed. Clearly that would be insane, given their factual influence in recorded history. 

ORIGINS OF PHYSICAL LIFE

We have debated this before.

I say" Evolution" isnt science -- Its more of a RELIGION-- Chief Justice Hugo Black thought so  anyway

(( Torcaso v Watkins-- Scientific Evolution being the alternative belief in God of organized Secular Humamism, and so he ruled Roy Torcaso  should be afforded Constitutional religious protections accordingly) 

Evolution it lacks a working theory at the organic level, it was a 19th century INVENTION of atheists and political propagandists like you, draped is the 'mystery' of science.  Especiually unfounded today ever since the discovery of DNA and the complexity of the Cell.

CHEMICAL EVOLUTION  cannot exist; it operates consistently according to natural laws that work like gravity, reliably and predictably, and deterministically ( no "natural selectrion' allowed.)  Where and how did the first cell come to be?

 Abiogenesis

Watch the video below to see what a professional Biochemist witha little integrity

NOW BELIEVES.

Is Belief in God without EVIDENCE?

Neither is it concerning Paul and Jesus.

 Evidence is admissible in may forms, and it is subject to reason,

not just blind FAITH in a childrens fable, as you suggest.

Useful Idiot!

Fact checker is nothing but an opinionated web site that is far left leaning. Assertions with zero facts. Same as a lib.

These libs still believe Trump instructed Americans to shoot clorox in their veins. They should be more concerned about how many of there fellow sheeple actually did it. No common sense is a killer, lol.

I got into a debate with crofraud the other week and he simple said, :I'm done with you". A libs way of excepting defeat without admitting defeat.

It's sad to see what our country has become. And it all started the minute creepy joe was appointed POTUS.

Fraud and corruption put him in the oval office. And with any justice, he will be removed from office for the same reason. Along with his drug induced, prostitute impregnating son HUnter.

And I thought the Clintons were the most evil people on earth. Well, the Bidens seem to have taken over that title.

These libs are delusional psychopaths that need direction because they simply can't make life choices on their own. I've always wondered how people become so misguided and dependent.

Keep up the good work shark. Your post are a beacon of light in an otherwise dark place.

VERITAS NOCET

Thanks, Sir OII 

it's interesting to see how Libz think. The Buddha talks a lot about "projection" and that's one of many things they do-- they blame others and invert reality-- and the facts don't matter -- even when they can't begin to reasonably deny them. 

Compilation series to Crowbot , to be continued. 

I agree with your stance on Covid-- a murderous scam of historic proportions. I saw a documentary recently, ( my daughter sent me) remdesivir ( Gilead) has been examined by credible chemists and DNA research scientists, it turns out that drug has gene sequences of --snake venom--( King Cobra and Chinese Crate). when injected into late stage Covid patients ( in a reduced concentration of venom) it attacks vital organs and causes lung inflamation--same as a snake bite.  death sentence-- in nine days ( on a ventilator. In an induced coma, of course!)

A Fucking eugenics experiment only Hitler could love!!.

Fauci should be tried and executed for his part in the deaths of millions.

keep up the good work,

skewering our 

useful idiots!

Fauci is not the only one that should be tried for his part in the death of millions.  Hopefully after the midterms and we finally get a goverment that cares for it's citizens and many issues will get looked into.  With big changes to come.

Fauci has no issue in this thread.

Trump philosophy is dazzle and confuse, a/k/a throw enough shyte and most people forget the point, monkey.

Agreed

Budha is off the chain

Crofraud is lost and confused

Jettsheep is a racist disguised as a sheeple in a dress

The covid scam has killed far too many people. A scam funded by the lefty liberals. Why are they not trying to uncover where it was released, and put those people in a deep dark pit of hell? Gee, I wonder????

I'm loving the new "LONG COVID" ads. They use young kids to spew their latest claim. I got the covid in September, then 3 weeks later I contracted long covid. I used to play soccer, now I can't walk up a flight of stairs without breathing hard.

So long covid happens three weeks after covid, hummmmmmmm

Yet once again, natural immunuity is not mentioned. Yet the data shows natural immunity is better than the shot.

They should only concentrate on therapeutics that work. 

I agree with you on about remdesivir, bad stuff. I truly believe that is why my sister died after contracting covid. The hospital gave her that snake venom.

Yet these libs continue to double down on their lies. Libs do not have the ability to admit failure, which is oddly strange because they fail at everything. It should be second nature, lol

Crowbot,

 1. You deny reasonable evidence for  belief, and you make gratitious assertions as fact.

Our discussion originated when I asked you to present evidence that Paul/Saul of Tarsus existed. You did not do so.

Politically we have seen that tactic with your constant comments vis a vis Trump.

My assertions come with evidence to support my opinion. I cite my sources.

Do you deny the FAKE NEWS Russian Dossier? (funded by Hillary and company?)  the FAKE impeachment

I had nothing to do with any of that and I don't think I asserted otherwise.

Present you evidence that Hillary funded the impeachment hearings.

(trying to discredit Trumps exposure of Creepy Joe and the Democrat Mafia in UKRAINE, under Obama)

Cite your evidence that Joe Biden did anything illicit regards Ukraine. Had he done so, Trumplicans would have leaped all over it, presented evidence. None.

Now the chickens have come home to roost-- Putin keeps threatening Nukes-- If Trump were president you'd be appoplectic in your decrying the 'presidential incompetence" that led to this state-- even as you FALSELY once asserted Trump would lead us to WWIII.. (Its the other way around, But dont let the facts get in your way!)

I see Biden handling Russia/Ukraine largely appropriately. Your opinion of Trump's presidency acting differently is pure argumentive assertions.

And now your home State (Georgia) is pointing to the election fraud perpetrated in Georgia which fradulently helped install Biden.

You are absolutely and completely incorrect. The 2020 election has been auditted repeatedly, increasing Bidens vote count each time.

Even as Democrats fight for no ID or citizenship requirements to vote? (no comment from you) 

I'll rephrase that for you because you are mistaken. Republicans want to limit voters, Democats want to allow everybody who is qualified cast a ballot.

Ballots cast with documentation are held aside for verification, but- and this is an important but- those ballots that are counted woould not have been cast if Republicans had their way.

Creepy JOE's ABSOLUTE incompetence and utter disasters brewing at home and around the planet, and yet

  __YOU REMAIN SILENT__. 

Very Telling.

Youre a LIb.

Own it.

2. You throw a bunch of unfounded crap in the air and hope some of it will stick. Thats what Libs need to do since the TRUTH for them is no refuge. I'm not going to chase you down multiple rabbit holes, when you wont ever stick to the point, or admit reasonable evidences of TRUTH.

I am however, interested at the way you Libs think, ( postmodern irrationality oin display)  The more you dig a hole, the more informative it is to watch.

Lets begin to summarize a few of your comments so far. ( me ) ( you)

1. You challenged the historical existence of Saint Paul.(!) 

Provide some historical, non-religious record of Paul's/Saul's existence.

First of all, the standard you want to apply means nothing in either a religious or a secular context. There is plenty of HISTORICAL evidence in and out of the BIBLE for the lives and writings of  figures like Saint Paul-- Backed up by  fact. To assert otherwise, that Paul is a LITERARY INVENTION ( akin to the flying spagetti monster) is utter nonsense.

What do you know of Plato? Aristotle, DioCleatian, Ireneus, Constantine, Tertullian, Polycarp, Luther, Joseph Smith, Mohammad, Alester Crowley,  and any number of historical figures who left behind a written legacy and cultural or religious influence (both written in their own hand, and in the hands of scribes, and interpreters after their death?)  

On what basis do you actually question _PAUL'S_ EXISTENCE?

Perhaps it's more blasphemous to credit false prophets?

None, zero, nada of thse scriptures were written by your attributed authors. All were written at least a hundred years after their deaths. There is also some critical thought that the same author wrote all four and again: a hundred+ years after their death.

On what basis do you make that claim?

The FACTUAL  history of the New Testament in particular is well known and attested to; textually culturally, and circumstancially. I could give you a lengthy class on these developments ( and I belive I have in thae past).  I dont need to debunk the imagings of some have baked propagandist quoting some a Lib textual critic trying to make a name for himself  (who denies PAULS EXISTENCE(?!) against the backdrop of 200) years of ACTUAL HISTORY

No one simply sat down and invented the characters seen in the New Testament, or what they clearly said and did. (as you assert.)  And if you could PROVE they did, why should anyone place their FAITH in them or what they said and did?

You say its a story accepted on faith, but you also assert its just an invention?

(contradiction)

People BELIEVE things they have reasons to BELIEVE. Those reasons may vary, as do the outcomes of  faith, but to deny as you do the authenticity of the story itself, and the characters authenticity too, thats far from even rational.    

Ive debated professional Secular Humanists with more intellectual integrity than you have displayed, so far.  Try to keep up!

 You asked-- Evidence:

https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/people-cultures-in-the-bible/people-in-the-bible/the-quest-for-the-historical-paul/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_the_Apostle

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Saint-Paul-the-Apostle

m><span style="color: #ff0000;">Forthright atheism would be far more honest than your approach . Atheists I have known dont deny these people existed. Clearly that would be insane, given their factual influence in recorded history. 

ORIGINS OF PHYSICAL LIFE

We have debated this before.

I say" Evolution" isnt science -- Its more of a RELIGION-- Chief Justice Hugo Black thought so  anyway

(( Torcaso v Watkins-- Scientific Evolution being the alternative belief in God of organized Secular Humamism, and so he ruled Roy Torcaso  should be afforded Constitutional religious protections accordingly) 

Evolution it lacks a working theory at the organic level, it was a 19th century INVENTION of atheists and political propagandists like you, draped is the 'mystery' of science.  Especiually unfounded today ever since the discovery of DNA and the complexity of the Cell.

CHEMICAL EVOLUTION  cannot exist; it operates consistently according to natural laws that work like gravity, reliably and predictably, and deterministically ( no "natural selectrion' allowed.)  Where and how did the first cell come to be?

 Abiogenesis

Watch the video below to see what a professional Biochemist witha little integrity

NOW BELIEVES.

Is Belief in God without EVIDENCE?

Neither is it concerning Paul and Jesus.

 Evidence is admissible in may forms, and it is subject to reason,

not just blind FAITH in a childrens fable, as you suggest.

Useful Idiot!

The articles you cite are not based on facts but assumptions. Citing "Biblical Archeology" is as illuminating as asking a Klansman about 'other races'. The answer is a foregone conclusion.

Any belief that is not substantiated by facts are based on faith. Prove God exists.

Evolution is an observable fact. The how and why life started is still the question. Me, I don't discard anything scientifically reasonable.

A question: Why do you wish to limit God to what you can understand? You insult God by pretending you understand his purposes and actions.

Suppose God had created the Earth a few centuries back, wouldn't he have also presented a reasonable back story that we can understand- like Adam and Eve?

Once you start, as Trump has done, attacking that you act to destroy the process of democacy.

Trump has made no secret of his disrespect for elections. He believes himself to be entiteld and worth of the presidency.

And you want to override the will of the people and allow Trump the power to destroy America?