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Msg ID: 2730137 How real is the chance of criminally prosecuting Donald Trump? +5/-2     
Author:TheCrow
5/23/2022 11:32:33 AM

Echos of Watergate, except this time we have witnessed audio of Trump soliciting the conspiracy to commit a crime- election fraud.

Anybody else in this country would have been charged with the crime at thhis point- except the rich and politically powerful. Remember that TrumpeRINOs were willing to attack the capital to stop a constitutional electiopn process and maintain Trump in power for a little more time.

There's no danger of The Donald being incarcerated so he can write a "Mein Kampf" explaining up for his political principles.

 

Opinion: How real is the chance of criminally prosecuting Donald Trump?

Elie Honig is a CNN senior legal analyst and former federal and state prosecutor, and author of "Hatchet Man: How Bill Barr Broke the Prosecutor's Code and Corrupted the Justice Department." The views expressed here are his own. View more opinion on CNN. Watch Honig answer readers' questions on "CNN Newsroom with Jim Acosta" on weekends.

(CNN)As a special grand jury convenes to consider potential criminal charges against former President Donald Trump, we'll surely learn much about the evidence gathered by Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis and her team of prosecutors and investigators in Georgia. The evidence appears to be sufficient to justify an indictment -- but, even if a grand jury ultimately does return a criminal charge, prosecutors will need to overcome a series of legal and practical obstacles before Trump faces meaningful consequences.

We already have a good sense about Willis' substantive focus. In her January 2022 letter to the Georgia judiciary requesting a special grand jury, Willis wrote that she has evidence establishing a "reasonable probability that the State of Georgia's administration of elections in 2020 ... was subject to possible
criminal disruptions." It is a crime under Georgia law to "solicit" election fraud, including "willfully tamper[ing]" with votes or final certification.
The central piece of publicly-available evidence is Trump's infamous January 2, 2021 phone call to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger. Trump begged Raffensperger to throw some votes his way: "All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes." We've now learned that, during that phone call, one of Raffensperger's deputies was frantically texting then-White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, urging him to end the call immediately.
 
 
The key will be establishing Trump's criminal intent. His defenders likely will argue that he genuinely believed he had won the Georgia election (despite all evidence to the contrary) and that he merely wanted to ensure a full and fair vote count. But prosecutors will focus on Trump's use of the word "find." If Trump truly believed he had won, and had received more votes than Joe Biden, why would he need Raffensperger to "find" votes? And why precisely 11,780 votes -- exactly one more than Biden's margin of victory?
Despite his status as a central witness, according to Willis' letter, Raffensperger has declined to testify. She says Raffensperger and other witnesses have made clear that they will testify only if and when they receive grand jury subpoenas.
 
 
This is why empanelment of the special grand jury is so important: now, Willis will have the power to issue subpoenas, through the grand jury, to compel witnesses to testify.
It's crucial to understand that a grand jury is different than a trial jury (sometimes called a "petit" jury) in key respects:
 
 
-- A trial jury consists of 12 members drawn randomly from the population, whereas a grand jury can be as large as 23 members. The Fulton County special grand jury will have a full slate of 23 grand jurors, plus three alternates.
-- The trial jury's job is to determine a defendant's guilt or non-guilt, either of which requires unanimity (anything short of unanimity results in a "hung jury" and a mistrial). A grand jury typically decides whether to issue an indictment, for which a mere majority vote is sufficient. However, the Fulton County special grand jury, on Willis' request, will not actually vote to indict, but rather may issue a recommendation based on its findings; Willis, in turn, can then seek an indictment from a regular grand jury.
-- The prosecutor must prove a defendant's guilt to a trial jury "beyond a reasonable doubt," which is the highest burden of proof in our legal system. But a grand jury needs to find only proof by "probable cause" -- meaning the defendant more likely than not committed the charged crime -- to issue an indictment. (Note: that prosecutors often will not seek an indictment unless and until they have a higher level of proof, as a matter of discretion).
 
 
Trials are public proceedings, but the grand jury operates in secret, so we will not see the Fulton County grand jury proceedings as they happen. However, grand jury secrecy is binding only on prosecutors, grand jurors and grand jury staff. Witnesses typically can, and often do, disclose publicly that they have received a subpoena, and they can openly discuss the subject of their testimony, if they so choose. Moving forward, we likely will have at least some idea of who is appearing before the grand jury, and what they are saying.
Willis has thus far moved at an inexplicably slow pace. The events at issue happened in late 2020 and early 2021; the fateful Trump call to Raffensperger was on January 2, 2021. Yet only now, nearly a year and a half later, has Willis convened a grand jury. And it seems we'll have to wait quite a bit longer to see the ultimate outcome.
 
Even if the special grand jury does eventually return a recommendation to indict, Willis will then need to present evidence to a regular grand jury, which has the actual power to indict, if she chooses to that take step. That will take even more time. It's difficult to square the seriousness of the potential crimes here -- an attempt by the then-President to steal an election -- with the decidedly casual pace of the proceedings.
If Willis ultimately does obtain an indictment of Trump, it is far from a sure thing that he will be convicted and imprisoned. First, Trump surely will move to dismiss the indictment. He likely will argue that he is a victim of what lawyers call "selective prosecution" (meaning he has been singled out for political reasons), and he might claim that it is unconstitutional for an elected county-level district attorney, who happens to be a Democrat, to indict a former president.
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Even if an indictment survives those legal challenges, then the DA's office will have to try its case and prove Trump's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt to the unanimous satisfaction of the jury. No trial verdict is a sure thing, and it can be particularly difficult to convict a universally-known personality like Trump, who evokes strong feelings of loyalty from his supporters (and visceral disdain from many detractors).
Even if a trial jury convicts Trump, a judge will then have to decide whether to sentence him to prison time. And any conviction and sentence must survive the appeals process, which can take many months.
We'll learn much in the weeks ahead about the DA's proof and investigation. Trump faces real legal jeopardy here. But genuine questions remain about whether (and when) he will actually be indicted. Even then, Willis faces an uphill battle to secure his conviction and a meaningful sentence.


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Msg ID: 2730166 My guess is zero to none. But the Biden's have a good chance (NT) +1/-4     
Author:observer II
5/23/2022 5:07:14 PM

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Msg ID: 2730167 How real is the chance of criminally prosecuting Donald Trump? +1/-4     
Author:observer II
5/23/2022 5:13:57 PM

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Here's the difference between Trump and Biden.

Every single drummed up Trump charge is just that. Fabricated hopeful tidbits of total lies.

However, there is so much evidence on Biden that he should be charged with treason.

And HUnter should have already been in prison for life.

Corruption is so blatant and in your face it's not funny.

But we have politicians that are far more concerned about protecting their own money trains that they look the other way.



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Msg ID: 2730232 Cite the evidence of Biden's treason. You won't because you can't. +2/-0     
Author:TheCrow
5/24/2022 12:56:08 PM

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"However, there is so much evidence on Biden that he should be charged with treason."

Cite the evidence of Biden's treason. You won't because you can't.

There isn't any eviodence except in the fevered minds of conspiracy theorists- "absence of evidence is evidence of absence"- if there's no proof then that proves guilt!

On the other hand...

 

Pro-Trump mob storm the Capitol on 6 January.
Pro-Trump mob storm the Capitol on 6 January. Photograph: John Minchillo/AP

There has been little public discussion of the term as the framework for understanding what happened on 6 January, experts say

 
 
Mon 5 Apr 2021 06.00 EDT
 

During Donald Trump’s presidency, the UC Davis law professor Carlton Larson spent a lot of time on the phone telling journalists: “It’s not treason.”

Trump’s behavior towards Russia: not treason. All the FBI investigations Trump labeled as treason: also not treason. Then came the 6 January attack on the Capitol by hundreds of Trump supporters. That was treason according to the founding fathers, Larson wrote in an op-ed the next day.

 

But in the three months since 6 January, however, there has been little public discussion of “treason” as the framework for understanding what happened, Larson said. “Everything was ‘Treason, treason, treason,’ when it wasn’t, and now you have an event that is closer to the original 18th-century definition of treason than anything that’s happened, and it’s almost silent. Nobody is using the term at all,” he said.

Federal prosecutors have brought cases against more than 300 people allegedly involved in the Capitol insurrection. So far, many of the rioters have been charged with lower-level offenses, like “disorderly and disruptive conduct in a restricted building”. A few members of extremist groups, including the Oath Keepers and the Proud Boys, are facing more serious conspiracy charges.

There has been some public discussion of whether some rioters should face “sedition” charges, including an early comment by then president-elect Joe Biden that the rioting at the Capitol was an “unprecedented assault” on democracy that “borders on sedition”.

A federal prosecutor who had been working on the Capitol cases told 60 Minutes in late March that he personally believed “the facts do support” sedition charges against some suspects. Michael Sherwin, the prosecutor, was publicly criticized by a federal judge for the media appearance, and is now the subject of an internal review over whether he spoke out inappropriately.

Treason is defined in the US constitution as “levying war” against the United States, or “adhering” to the enemies of the United States and “giving them aid and comfort”. The framers had in mind “men gathering with guns, forming an army, and marching on the seat of government”, Larson said.

Sedition, in contrast, is “a broader term for disloyal behavior” against the government, Larson said.

There are two main types of sedition in US law: one is sedition associated with speech, or “seditious libel”, a charge which has been repeatedly used in the US to target anti-war and leftist activists, particularly during wartime, according to Jenny Carroll, a professor at the University of Alabama school of law. The other is “seditious conspiracy”, defined under federal law as taking action either to “overthrow” the US government, to use force “to prevent, hinder or delay the execution of any law of the United States” or “to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States”.

 

While treason is a crime still punishable by death in the United States, the maximum penalty for seditious conspiracy is 20 years.

Supporters of Donald Trump surround and storm the US Capitol on 6 January.
Supporters of Donald Trump surround and storm the US Capitol on 6 January. Photograph: Bryan Dozier/Rex/Shutterstock

‘If that’s not seditious conspiracy, I don’t know what is’

In his book On Treason: A Citizen’s Guide to the Law, Larson argued that Americans were unlikely to mount an internal rebellion against the United States in modern times. Then the Capitol attack proved him wrong.

What was distinctive about the Capitol riot, he said, was the use of force, which is necessary for something to count as “levying war” against the United States.

He compared the insurrection to the anti-tax Whiskey Rebellion in 1794, which was forcefully put down by George Washington, and resulted in multiple indictments for treason.

“If you asked a lawyer in 1790 if [6 January] was an act of treason or levying war against the United States, they would have almost certainly said yes,” Larson said.

Yet Larson said he did not expect prosecutors would file treason charges in the 6 January cases, because the charge would probably add too many legal complications. A legal precedent from 1851 set a higher bar for the definition of treason, he wrote, defining it only as an attempt to overthrow the government itself, not simply the obstruction of one particular law.

The definition of “seditious conspiracy”, in contrast, seems like a much easier match, Larson and Carroll agreed, particularly because it includes conspiracies “to prevent, hinder or delay the execution of any law”, which the Capitol invaders appear to have accomplished by forcing lawmakers to hide and delaying the certification of the 2020 election results.

“Seditious conspiracy captures the flavor of January 6,” said Steve Vladeck, a federal courts expert at the University of Texas school of law. “You had a whole lot of people – who may not have had exactly the same motive, or may not have committed the exact same acts – who were in a very large degree involved in a common plan, the goal of which was to somehow, in some way, keep President Trump in office.”

“If that’s not seditious conspiracy, I don’t know what is.”

‘Seditious conspiracy captures the flavor of January 6,’ said Steve Vladeck, a federal courts expert at the University of Texas school of law.
‘Seditious conspiracy captures the flavor of January 6,’ said Steve Vladeck, a federal courts expert at the University of Texas school of law. Photograph: Miguel Juarez Lugo/ZUMA Wire/REX/Shutterstock

Seditious conspiracy charges have been rare in US history

It remains unlikely that the majority of the rioters will face seditious conspiracy charges, experts said.

The crime of “seditious conspiracy” requires proof, not just of the action, but of agreement, Carroll said. “The global chatter among US attorneys is that there has been a lot of work to trace electronic communications individuals engaged in to figure out who was talking to who,” she added.

“To the extent that there are charges for seditious conspiracy, it would be against particular little cells of people,” Larson said. “It would be impossible to show that all of those people [at the Capitol] had some type of prior agreement with each other.”

Sherwin, the federal prosecutor, told 60 Minutes in late March that there were “over 400 criminal cases” in total, but that only 10% of cases were “the more complex conspiracy cases” involving militia groups like the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys who “did have a plan”.

Seditious conspiracy charges have been rare in US history. That’s largely because seditious conspiracy itself “doesn’t happen that much”, Larson said.

In 1995, Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman and several followers were convicted of seditious conspiracy in a case related to the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. Oscar López Rivera, the leader of a Puerto Rican independence group, served 35 years in prison for seditious conspiracy before Barack Obama commuted his sentence in 2017.

Some previous attempts by federal prosectors to convict far-right extremists for seditious conspiracy have failed.

It remains unlikely that the majority of the rioters will face seditious conspiracy charges, experts said.
It remains unlikely that the majority of the rioters will face seditious conspiracy charges, experts said. Photograph: Win McNamee/Getty Images

In 2012, a Michigan judge dismissed sedition charges against the five members of the Hutaree militia, a Christian militia group, ruling that the government’s case had relied too much on “circumstantial evidence”. Members of the group pleaded guilty to lesser weapons charges and were sentenced to time served.

In 1988, an all-white jury acquitted 13 white supremacists of sedition charges in a high-profile trial in Fort Smith, Arkansas.

More recently, Trump’s attorney general, William Barr, called last summer for prosecutors to file seditious conspiracy charges against demonstrators against police violence in the wake of George Floyd’s killing by police. Barr was particularly focused on protesters in Portland, where there had been property damage to a federal building, Carroll said.

This was “entirely inconsistent with how previous protest movements” had been treated, Carroll said, and prompted concern and outrage from legal experts.

The US government, Carroll said, “has not been great about being consistent about how it treats different types of dissenters”.

“Dissenters calling for change in social conditions or racial conditions or class conditions tend to be much more heavily prosecuted than folks who do things like engage in voter intimidation or engage in acts of white-based maintenance of power.”

Sedition laws in the early 20th century, including the Sedition Act of 1918, was “not only focused on World War I”, but “really focused on shutting down socialists and communists, who the government thought were going to be a threat to democracy”, said Roy Gutterman, the director of the Tully Center for Free Speech at Syracuse University.

The supreme court at the time upheld convictions of “small groups of dissidents” who were “distributing fliers speaking out against the US government”, Gutterman said. That included socialists passing out flyers advocating that Americans peacefully resist the draft, which the supreme court at the time ruled was not protected as free speech.

When a law originally designed to crack down on leftist and labor organizers were used to prosecute a Ku Klux Klan leader after a cross burning in the 1960s, the supreme court set a new standard, concluding that the law violated the Klan leader’s free speech rights.



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Msg ID: 2730234 How about this one +1/-3     
Author:Old Guy
5/24/2022 1:23:23 PM

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BIDEN is a traitor in his action of leaving Afghanistan.  He left behind Americas.  The world now knows that it cannot trust the US to be faithful to its commitments when Democrats are in control.  

Read (article Iii, section 3 clause1) , Biden was treasonous by giving $83 billion worth of sophisticated military equipment to the Taliban, this falls directly under giving the enemies aid.  There is NO defense for his actions.

 

 



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Msg ID: 2730237 How about this one +2/-1     
Author:TheCrow
5/24/2022 1:38:12 PM

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BIDEN is a traitor in his action of leaving Afghanistan.  He left behind Americas.  The world now knows that it cannot trust the US to be faithful to its commitments when Democrats are in control.  

Why were we still in Afghanistan? It was well past time to get out, Trump did not have the guts (and/or brains?) to order it, take the responsibility.

 

Read (article Iii, section 3 clause1) , Biden was treasonous by giving $83 billion worth of sophisticated military equipment to the Taliban, this falls directly under giving the enemies aid.  There is NO defense for his actions.

How many Americans would you lose in recovering the equipment?

Would you be willing to step up or send your kid to do it?

 

— Former president Donald Trump, in a statement, Aug 30

We don’t normally pay much attention to claims made by the former president, as he mostly just riffs golden oldies. But this is a new claim. A version of this claim also circulates widely on right-leaning social media — that somehow the Taliban has ended up with $83 billion in U.S. weaponry. (Trump, as usual, rounds the number up.)

The $83 billion number is not invented out of whole cloth. But it reflects all the money spent to train, equip and house the Afghan military and police — so weapons are just a part of that. At this point, no one really knows the value of the equipment that was seized by the Taliban.

The Facts

The $83 billion figure — technically, $82.9 billion — comes from an estimate in the July 30 quarterly report by the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction (SIGAR) for all spending appropriated for the Afghanistan Security Forces Fund since the U.S. invasion in 2001. Even that figure is a bit high; as of midyear about $75 billion of appropriated funds had been disbursed, according to SIGAR.

In recent years, the spending has decreased. For fiscal 2021, about $3 billion was spent on security forces, which was similar to 2020.

Separately, the U.S. government spent about $36 billion on shoring up the Afghan government. The total bill for the Afghan project added up to more than $144 billion.

In any case, the $83 billion spent on the Afghan National Defense and Security Forces (ANDSF) goes back two decades, including almost $19 billion spent between 2002 and 2009.

2017 Government Accountability Office report estimated that about 29 percent of the funds spent on the Afghan security forces between 2005 and 2016 went to equipment and transportation. (The transportation costs related to transporting equipment and for contracted pilots and airplanes for transporting officials to meetings. There appears to be no way to segregate transportation spending.)

Using that same percentage, applied against $83 billion appropriated in total on Afghan security forces. that would mean the equipment provided to Afghan forces amounted to roughly $24 billion over 20 years. The GAO said approximately 70 percent of the equipment went to the Afghan military and the rest went to the national police (part of the Interior Ministry).

That’s certainly a lot of money. Between 2005 and 2016, U.S. taxpayers paid for 76,000 vehicles (such as 43,000 Ford Ranger pickup trucks, 22,000 Humvees and 900 mine-resistant ambush-protected vehicles known as MRAPs), 600,000 weapons and more than 200 aircraft, according to GAO.

Of course, some of this equipment may be obsolete or destroyed — or soon may not be usable.

 

The SIGAR report shows that 167 aircraft out of an inventory of 211 were usable — but the Afghan Air Force (AAF) still lacked enough qualified pilots. One issue was that the Taliban targeted pilots for assassination.

Even more problematic, there were not enough maintenance crews to maintain the aircraft. “Without continued contractor support, none of the AAF’s airframes can be sustained as combat effective for more than a few months, depending on the stock of equipment parts in-country, the maintenance capability on each airframe, and the timing of contractor support withdrawal,” the report said.

With great fanfare, the Taliban has seized a number of Black Hawk helicopters, including ones that the United States had just shipped this year at the request of former Afghan president Ashraf Ghani. But only the first crew of Black Hawk mechanics had been trained, so the military “can field no more than one UH-60 per night for helicopter missions,” SIGAR said.

 

Meanwhile, as the U.S. military wound down its mission, it turned over facilities and equipment to the Afghan security forces — which may have added to the total seized by the Taliban. But Marine Gen. Kenneth F. McKenzie Jr., head of U.S. Central Command, said that before leaving Kabul airport on Aug. 30, the military “demilitarized” 70 MRAPs, 27 Humvees and 73 aircraft. “Those aircraft will never fly again,” he said. “They’ll never be able to be operated by anyone.” (Demilitarized is a term that means damaging in place, sometimes with explosives.)

 

“No one has any accounting of exactly what survived the last weeks of the collapse and fell into Taliban hands, and even before the collapse, SIGAR had publicly reported no accounting was possible in many districts,” said Anthony H. Cordesman of the Center for Strategic and International Studies. “In rough terms, however, if the ANDSF could not sustain it without foreign contractors, the Taliban will have very serious problems in operating it. That covers most aircraft and many electronics and heavier weapons.”

“One also has to be careful here,” Cordesman added. “The fact that Taliban fighters or cells of fighters get U.S. equipment does not mean it is pooled or shared. Factionalism and hoarding are the rule in Afghanistan, not the exception.”

The Pinocchio Test

U.S. military equipment was given to Afghan security forces over two decades. Tanks, vehicles, helicopters and other gear fell into the hands of the Taliban when the U.S.-trained force quickly collapsed. The value of these assets is unclear, but if the Taliban is unable to obtain spare parts, it may not be able to maintain them.

But the value of the equipment is not more than $80 billion. That’s the figure for all of the money spent on training and sustaining the Afghan military over 20 years. The equipment portion of that total is at most $24 billion — certainly not small change — but the actual value of the equipment in the Taliban’s hands is probably much less than even that amount.

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Msg ID: 2730434 How about this one crofraud +1/-3     
Author:observer II
5/26/2022 8:14:49 AM

Reply to: 2730237

For starters, you get the people out first, you know, before the military and the equipment. Who knew??

 

You NEVER leave American assets worth billions for the enemy. Common sense 101

 

The military is the last to leave.

 

Speculate all you want but it's crazy how that actually works.

 

And the nask yourself this one final question. 

 

WHAT WOULD YOU BE SAYING IF IT WERE TRUMP THAT LEFT BILLIONS IN AMERICAN ASSETS BEHIND WHILE AMERICANS WERE KILLED IN THE PROCESS.



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Msg ID: 2730453 How many Americans would you lose in recovering the equipment? Would you be +4/-0     
Author:TheCrow
5/26/2022 10:37:43 AM

Reply to: 2730434

"You NEVER leave American assets worth billions for the enemy. Common sense 101"

The issue remains- How many Americans would you lose in recovering the equipment? Would you be willing to step up or send your kid to do it?  Over the centuries, America has traded ground and equipment for troops, time and position. Kinda like Dunkirk...

 

WHAT WOULD YOU BE SAYING IF IT WERE TRUMP THAT LEFT BILLIONS IN AMERICAN ASSETS BEHIND WHILE AMERICANS WERE KILLED IN THE PROCESS.

Speculation.

What is most definitely not speculation is that Biden took a decision that got people out. Trump did not.



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Msg ID: 2730233 Your extreme right fanatics did get themselves sedition charges: +2/-0     
Author:TheCrow
5/24/2022 1:04:57 PM

Reply to: 2730167

Your extreme right fanatics did get themselves sedition charges. convictions:

The sentencing guideline range for Joshua A. James, who also pleaded guilty to a charge of...
The sentencing guideline range for Joshua A. James, who also pleaded guilty to a charge of obstruction of an official proceeding, was estimated to be 7¼ to nine years in prison.(Department of Justice via CNN)
Published: Mar. 2, 2022 at 6:56 PM EST
 

(AP) - An Alabama man affiliated with the far-right Oath Keepers militia group pleaded guilty Wednesday to seditious conspiracy for his actions leading up and through the Jan. 6 riot, marking the first person involved in the violent attack on the U.S. Capitol to be convicted of the rarely used charge.

The sentencing guideline range for Joshua A. James, who also pleaded guilty to a charge of obstruction of an official proceeding, was estimated to be 7¼ to nine years in prison.

The 34-year-old from Arab, Alabama, acknowledged getting into a physical altercation with a police officer while inside the Capitol and participating in a plan to use force to hinder or delay the transfer of presidential power. James also agreed to cooperate with authorities investigating the riot, including testifying before a grand jury.

Authorities say James and others affiliated with the group rode golf carts to the Capitol, moved through the crowd in a military-style “stack” formation and went into the building.

James was accused of pushing past officers who tried to stop rioters from moving toward the Rotunda, joining others who confronted officers and profanely proclaiming the building was his. A week before the riot, James said in an encrypted chat that he believed teams within the militia group were adequately armed, prosecutors said in court records.

While four other people connected with the Oath Keepers have pleaded guilty to obstruction of Congress and a lesser conspiracy charge, James is the first among the 11 people associated with the group to plead guilty to a seditious conspiracy charge.

The seditious conspiracy prosecution is the boldest publicly known attempt so far by the government to prosecute those who attacked the U.S. Capitol. The group’s founder, Stewart Rhodes, and others have pleaded not guilty to seditious conspiracy and other charges. A seditious conspiracy conviction carries a maximum penalty of 20 years, compared with five years on the lesser conspiracy charge facing other group members.

Those charged with seditious conspiracy are accused of working together to use force to stop the peaceful transfer of presidential power. Authorities say participants discussed their plans in encrypted chats, traveled to the nation’s capital from across the country, organized into teams, used military tactics, stashed weapons in case they felt they were needed and communicated with each other during the riot on Jan. 6, 2021.

Prosecutors say the group set up a “quick reaction force,” or QRF, that kept guns at a hotel in nearby Arlington, Virginia, and were prepared to bring the weapons into Washington if Rhodes or associates believed the need arose. Days before the attack, one defendant suggested getting a boat to ferry weapons across the Potomac River. In the end, the QRF teams didn’t bring guns into Washington.

At the Capitol, Oath Keepers marched in two teams in stack formation, with team members advancing forward with one hand on the shoulder of the person in front of them.

More than 750 people have been charged with federal crimes related to the riot. Over 220 riot defendants have pleaded guilty, more than 100 have been sentenced and at least 90 others have trial dates.

The attack resulted in the deaths of five people, including a police officer. More than 100 officers were injured. Rioters caused over $1 million in damage. __ Billeaud reported from Phoenix.

Copyright 2022 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

 

 

 

 

 

Rioters loyal to President Donald Trump rally at the U.S. Capitol in Washington on Jan. 6, 2021. Brian Ulrich, a Georgia man affiliated with the Oath Keepers militia group, became the second Capitol rioter to plead guilty to seditious conspiracy for his actions leading up and through the attack.

Jose Luis Magana/AP file photo

A member of the far-right Oath Keepers extremist group has pleaded guilty to seditious conspiracy and obstruction in connection with the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol and agreed to cooperate with the government.

Brian Ulrich entered his guilty plea at a virtual hearing Friday in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C. The 44-year-old from Guyton, Ga., is the second Oath Keeper to plead guilty to sedition charges in the highest-profile case to emerge from the federal investigation into the Capitol riot.

Ulrich is one of 11 Oath Keepers, including the group's founder Stewart Rhodes, to be charged with seditious conspiracy and other crimes for allegedly plotting to use force to prevent Congress' Jan. 6 certification of President Biden's election win.

Now, five months before the case is set to go trial, prosecutors have secured the cooperation of two members of the alleged conspiracy to help build their prosecution against the remaining defendants.

"Did you do that sir, agree with Mr. Rhodes and develop a plan to stop the lawful transfer of presidential power by Jan. 20, 2021?" Judge Amit Mehta asked at Friday's hearing.

"Yes, your honor," Ulrich replied.

At one point during the proceedings, Judge Mehta stopped while explaining the maximum sentences for each count and asked whether Ulrich needed a moment.

"I'm alright," Ulrich said.

"Are you sure?" Mehta asked.

"It's not going to get any easier," Ulrich replied.

Mehta said the estimated guidelines range for Ulrich's sentence is 63 to 78 months, or just over 5 years to 7 ½ years.

According to the statement of offense, Ulrich joined an Oath Keepers encrypted chat group in late November of 2020 in which members, including Ulrich, talked about a possible civil war if Biden were inaugurated.

Ulrich later was added to an encrypted Oath Keepers group chat entitled "DC OP: Jan 6 21" that included Rhodes. The members used the chat to plan their travel to Washington, D.C. for Jan. 6. They also discussed what gear to bring, including radios, helmets and weapons.

On the day itself, after the pro-Trump mob had breached the Capitol doors and was streaming inside, Ulrich and several of his co-defendants hopped into golf carts and drove to the Capitol wearing tactical gear and goggles.

Once there, they formed a military stack-style formation and forced their way up the steps and into the building. Ulrich left the Capitol after being hit with chemical spray by police officers trying to protect the complex

 
 


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