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Msg ID: 2733167 The Extreme Right Is Increasingly Resorting To Violence... +5/-1     
Author:Jett
6/20/2022 10:19:43 PM

It's not just Jan 6, look at the political ad I posted below, look at this letter that was mailed to a Congressman threatening to execute his family, and many more. It's a very disturbing trend... 

 

 

Kinzinger tweeted out an image of the letter  



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Msg ID: 2733198 The Extreme Right Is Increasingly Resorting To Violence... +3/-3     
Author:Shooting Shark
6/21/2022 8:30:50 AM

Reply to: 2733167

Well Jetsheep,

When the left was burning down cities and killing cops

where was your concern about "violence"

I guess the "little people" dont count, eh?

And then they rigged the election.

And then they made mask mandates.

And then they destroyed the economy

And then they refuse to provide for guarding schools

And then they threaten Judge Kavanaugh's life...

Youre a little late to the party, dontchthink!

useful idiot! 

 



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Msg ID: 2733240 Moral equivalence as an excuse Pooty? I thought that lost it''s  +4/-0     
Author:TheCrow
6/21/2022 12:19:28 PM

Reply to: 2733198

Moral equivalence as an excuse Pooty? I thought that lost it''s appeal in lower elementary school.

Trump is an acknowledged, self-serving liar, cheat and a thief. And yet, you take his lies and other political fabrications, no matter how absurd, as some kind of fact... of indications of fact... or maybe they just sound like something that might be fact.

 

And then they rigged the election. 

There is no evidence of the 2020 election being rigged. None. Nada. Zero. (Even if you're from Texas)

There was an attempt to rig, corrupt Georgia's election by Donald J. Trump. Kemp and Raffensperger refused the conspiracy and took it public. Do you think they were the only ones Trump called? I don't think so.

 


And then they destroyed the economy

President Trump did that all by his lonesome.

 

 

And then they refuse to provide for guarding schools

I guess an involved activist like you was at the last council meeting demaning more taxes and more LEO presence at schools? Nope, right? Big Nope.

 

 

And then they threaten Judge Kavanaugh's life...

Who is "they"?  Nicholas John Roske mightt be a big influence in your extreme right wing reactionary body, but to the rest of America he's just another nut job. In this case, an unsuccessful nut job.



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Msg ID: 2733245 Moral equivalence as an excuse Pooty? I thought that lost it''s  +1/-3     
Author:Shooting Shark
6/21/2022 12:44:21 PM

Reply to: 2733240

No, I simply pointed out the fact that the Libz and you ( our disgusting RINO) 

never say a word or denounce the left

when the left actually plots snd tries to kill someone.. 

or kills cops 

or burns down the neighborhood

or steals from a jewelry store.

 

WHY is that??

that cognitive dissonance

and utter hypocrisy 

is what makes you a 

Disgusting RINO! 



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Msg ID: 2733248 Moral equivalence as an excuse Pooty? I thought that lost it''s  +4/-0     
Author:TheCrow
6/21/2022 1:13:18 PM

Reply to: 2733245

"never say a word or denounce the left"

Suppose I propose that some things are obviously wrong. Why would I comment on those subjects, leftist, rightist, whateverist.

never say a word or denounce the left 

when the left actually plots snd tries to kill someone..

or kills cops

or burns down the neighborhood

or steals from a jewelry store.

You assume, erroneously, that I am 'left'. Nope, I am not as extreme far right as you, but I am an American conservative which puts me on the 'right' of the spectrum. Difference is I can see both sides and I don't objectify those who have different opinions.

 

What I do choose to comment on here is the extreme right wing reactionary hyper-patriot white nationalists... or, as I believe they prefer to be called at present "civic nationalists'.

I do so to invite, incite discussion. The real live right can discuss points, argue rationally. Not the Trumpists, because Trump has no founding philosophy, only self interested platitudes of the day.



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Msg ID: 2733330 Sharky, there is one Big difference... +3/-1     
Author:Jett
6/21/2022 11:48:13 PM

Reply to: 2733198

When you refer to the riots, the looting, burning stuff down, etc. You're referring to people who are upset about police brutality, people who take advantage of the situation for personal gain, and others who may just want to riot just for the fun of it.

When I refer to the violence of the Extreme Right, Jan 6, threatening videos, threatening letters, etc. I and referring to people who wish to force their political positions and beliefs on others and to hijack the government of the United States.

I in no way condone the behavior of those who have participated in the riots and looting, these people are absolutely wrong. But it's way different than what you are doing and supporting with the Extreme Right.

Trying to take over the government and force your will on other Americans is a whole different ballgame...    



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Msg ID: 2733332 Sharky, there is one Big difference... +3/-2     
Author:Shooting Shark
6/22/2022 7:19:55 AM

Reply to: 2733330

First of all Jetsheep

define "Extreme Right."

You seem to think everywhere me who supported Trump iis a fanatic

you said; 

When I refer to the violence of the Extreme Right, Jan 6, threatening videos, threatening letters, etc. I and referring to people who wish to force their political positions and beliefs on others and to hijack the government of the United States.

and when I see these people 

When I refer to Jan 6, threatening videos, threatening letters, etc. I'm referring to people who wish to not have their political positions and beliefs subverted and undermined by a fraudulent election, hijacled by those in the government and in powerful private sectors, to advance a personal or global agenda at the expense of the American poor and middle class. ( a growing political majority)

The fact you can't see it

doesn't make you right

anf surely doesn't make the radical left

who has actually killed hundrEd's of cops

destroyed government and private property 

and tried to kill a Supreme Court judge

a " righteous cause"

The fact you can't see the difference 

does make you a  

useful idiot! 



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Msg ID: 2733335 Sharky, there is one Big difference... +1/-2     
Author:Old Guy
6/22/2022 8:51:06 AM

Reply to: 2733330

Jett, the people you are taking about are they the ones that trespassed into the capital buildings and are trying to force their political positions and beliefs on others and trying to hijack the government of the US, you are talking about the Colbert insurrection team?



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Msg ID: 2733340 No, I'm talking about the Proud Punks, Goat Keepers, and others like You..  +3/-0     
Author:Jett
6/22/2022 10:58:01 AM

Reply to: 2733335

Extreme Righties who want to try and shove their conservative beliefs down others throats by the use of force. 

Look at what the Republican party in Texas just did, not only did they pass a resolution saying the election was fraudulent, they also threw in that they hate Gay people for good measure. You people won't stop until there's a Southern Baptist Church and a trailer park on every corner...



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Msg ID: 2733343 No, I'm talking about the Proud Punks, Goat Keepers, and others like You..  +3/-0     
Author:TheCrow
6/22/2022 11:13:21 AM

Reply to: 2733340

 The "Big Tent Republican Party" is history. They suppress diversity of opinion, promote the Trumpian model demonstrated on January 6.

If Americans can't be persuaded by logic, they should be forced by violence.

The Madness (and Danger) of the Texas GOP

Plus: Eric Greitens is talking about murder.

Jun 21
 
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Former US President Donald Trump pumps his fist as he walks off after speaking at CPAC in Dallas, Texas on July 11, 2021. (Photo by ANDY JACOBSOHN/AFP via Getty Images)

Last week he asked for “EQUAL TIME.” This week he’s having second thoughts about the political genius of Kevin McCarthy. While his minions continue to insist that there’s nothing to see here, Donald Trump is obviously paying attention — lots of attention — to what the House January 6th Committee is doing. And he’s unhappy.

In an interview with far-right host Wayne Allen Root, Trump ripped McCarthy for not putting his defenders on the panel.

“Unfortunately, a bad decision was made.”

“This committee, it was a bad decision not to have representation on that committee,” Trump said. “That was a very, very foolish decision because they try to pretend like they’re legit, and only when you get into the inner workings you say ‘what kind of a thing is this?’ Just a one-sided witch hunt.”

Committee member Adam Kinzinger tweeted:

Twitter avatar for @AdamKinzingerAdam Kinzinger🇺🇦🇺🇸✌️ @AdamKinzinger
This is honestly, the best thing I’ve seen all week! Nice work @GOPLeader! As @SykesCharlie says, when you grow an alligator in the bath tub don’t be surprised when it gets out and eats your face.

Scott Wong @scottwongDC

Now Trump calling McCarthy’s decision to yank all Republicans off Jan. 6 committee “foolish.” “it was a bad decision not to have representation on that committee,” Trump said. “That was a very, very foolish decision …” https://t.co/FKxG11B7Ok

**

Today’s hearings will feature Georgia Secretary of state Brad Raffensperger, his deputy Gabe Sterling; and Arizona House Speaker Rusty Bowers. Via Politico’s Playbook:

Bowers is expected to describe the pressure campaign from Trump, Rudy Giuliani and Virginia Thomas, the wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarece Thomas. In one phone call, Trump and Giuliani pushed Bowers to change Arizona law retroactively “to allow the Legislature to choose a different slate of presidential electors than picked by voters.”

Happy Tuesday.


Meanwhile, in Texas…

 

You’ve probably read/heard something about the Texas GOP convention last weekend, but trust me, it was worse than you thought.

None of what follows is a parody.

On Sunday, Cathy Young wrote about the platform resolution that declared homosexuality “an abnormal lifestyle choice”:

What the actual hell? This has a real “the 1980s called and they want their social-issues rhetoric back” feel to it. Did someone from the Texas GOP leadership steal Marty McFly’s DeLorean? Or overdose on Stranger Things? Did the Cold War-to-proxy war escalation of tensions with Moscow cause a time warp?

Also, this tidbit from the convention shows how “political correctness” has now become “anything to the left of the Westboro Baptist Church”):

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But there was more.

The Texas GOP also rebuked its own senior U.S. senator, John Cornyn, for working on gun-safety legislation, explicitly rejected the outcome of the presidential election, and declared that Joe Biden was an illegitimate president.

. . . and more.

The Texas GOP also called for the repeal of the 1965 Voting Rights Act.

“We urge that the Voting Rights Act of 1965, codified 1402 and updated in 1973, be repealed and not reauthorized.” The Voting Rights Act of 1965 is a landmark civil rights-era bill that banned racial discrimination in elections by prohibiting any voting rules that “results in the denial or abridgement of the right of any citizen to vote on account of race or color.”

And there was this tidbit amidst the offal:

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All of the above was, however, only a warm-up act for what history may remember as the main event.

Under a section titled "State Sovereignty," the platform states: "Pursuant to Article 1, Section 1, of the Texas Constitution, the federal government has impaired our right of local self-government. Therefore, federally mandated legislation that infringes upon the 10th Amendment rights of Texas should be ignored, opposed, refused, and nullified.

Too vague? unclear?

"Texas retains the right to secede from the United States, and the Texas Legislature should be called upon to pass a referendum consistent thereto."

**

You may be tempted to roll your eyes at the crazy here, but some quick thoughts:

  • This is the platform of the governing party of the nation’s second largest state. (Go ahead. Get yourself another cup of coffee. Go for a walk. Pet your dog.)

  • If you’ve been paying attention, you know the velocity with which crazy ideas have become mainstream in the modern GOP.

  • The Texas GOP is run by batshit lunatics, but it is not a total outlier. (You might want to check out the Arizona and Nevada GOP.)

  • Secession is going to be a thing, especially if the GOP loses the next presidential election.

**

Exit take: Tom Nichols reminded us of what this might look like.

This is where we really will have “free” and “unfree” Americas, side by side. To drive from Massachusetts to Alabama—especially for women and people of color—will not be crossing the Mason-Dixon line so much as it will be like falling through the Time Tunnel and emerging in a pre-1964 America where civil rights and equal treatment before the government are a matter of the state’s forbearance. If an American citizen’s constitutional rights are violated, there will be no Justice Department that will intervene, no Supreme Court that will overrule. (And arresting seditionists? Good luck with that. I expect that if Trump is reelected, he will pardon everyone involved with January 6.) The highest authority in these areas will be the governor with maybe the occasional peep out of a state court here and there.


He’s talking about murder

 

Can we dispense with the euphemisms? The GOP’s leading candidate for U.S. Senate in Missouri is pushing his bid for a Trump endorsement by calling for the killing of squishy Republicans.

“I’m Eric Greitens, Navy Seal, and today we’re going RINO hunting,” the 48-year-old says in the 38-second ad. 

“The RINO feeds on corruption and is marked by the stripes of cowardice,” Greitens says in the video before the group forces entry into an empty home. 

“Join the MAGA crew, get a RINO hunting permit. There’s no bagging limit, no tagging limit and it doesn’t expire until we save our country.”

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As I’ve written before, Greitens is very much a creature of new MAGA political culture. Even before this ad, he was testing the limits of his party’s post-shame politics.

Forced to resign from the governorship after a lurid sex scandal, Greitens is nevertheless the leading Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate. And there has been speculation that an endorsement from Trump himself might be forthcoming.

Greitens also now faces allegations from his ex-wife that he “was physically abusive and demonstrated such ‘unstable and coercive behavior’ that steps were taken to limit his access to firearms.”

But he continues to lead in the polls, and clearly thinks overt threats of political murder are just the ticket to seal the deal with the GOP primary electorate. But what are we actually looking at here?

Allahpundit does not mince words, describing Greitens’s RINO hunting ad as “fascist.” Some Republican voters will brush the ad off as trolling for the lulz . . . or a sign that Greitens will fight.

The libs say that sexual blackmail is bad, so maybe sexual blackmail is actually … good? Or at least not entirely bad. A man willing to blackmail his mistress may show the same sort of ruthlessness towards the left if elected to the Senate.

The same goes for the domestic abuse allegations. That’s not a good thing, surely — but Republicans could benefit from having some men of strong will in the Senate, no?

Essentially, Greitens is weaponizing his own immorality.

And it may work. Writes Allahpundit: “That’s the sort of depravity to which nihilistic “own the libs” thinking leads some voters, and there may be enough of them in Missouri to win a Senate primary.”

Greitens’s fascist ad is a signal to them, I think, that essentially says, “I may be a scumbag, but I’ll use my scumminess to punish your enemies.”

Which is also the Trump bargain with Republican voters in a nutshell, no? In fact, Greitens may yet earn Trump’s endorsement in the Missouri race. Stay tuned.

**

A reminder that toxic ideas can have fatal consequences:

 

Exit take: This is the death threat that Adam Kinzinger’s wife received last week for the congressman’s participation in Jan. 6th Committee

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Msg ID: 2733360 Stage 3 TDS  +2/-2     
Author:Shooting Shark
6/22/2022 2:45:38 PM

Reply to: 2733340

Jetsheep 

Your hatred of mainstream America is fuel by your

personal political identification with those of

certain sexual persuasions.

No you aren't " betraying them" by voting for common sense.

Creepy Joe is presently destroying the economy

Conservatives will save it in November

despite all you Trump Deraingement Syndrom suffering 

Useful Idiots



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Msg ID: 2733375 The Proud Punks and Goat Keepers are not mainstream America... +4/-1     
Author:Jett
6/22/2022 6:46:35 PM

Reply to: 2733360

They are Freaks...



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Msg ID: 2733424 not mainstream America... +1/-3     
Author:Shooting Shark
6/23/2022 8:29:29 AM

Reply to: 2733375


"They are Freaks..."

 

 

Yes they are, Jeysheep. 
(why fo you identify with them?)

useful idiot!



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