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Msg ID: 2733969 Creepy Joe, did he take showers with his daughter? +1/-4     
Author:Old Guy
6/28/2022 5:32:26 PM




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Msg ID: 2733974 I don't know about that. But I do know that Trump talked about Ivanka and  +3/-0     
Author:TheCrow
6/28/2022 5:52:28 PM

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I don't know about that. But I do know that Trump talked about Ivanka and incest...



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Msg ID: 2733976 That's pretty class act from a guy who raped his wife, has a couple dozen  +3/-0     
Author:TheCrow
6/28/2022 5:55:05 PM

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That's pretty class act from a guy who raped his wife, has a couple dozen sex attack lawsuits, some of which he's settled with NDAs.

Trump is a liar, a cheat, a thief and a serial sexual abuser... who partied with Jeffery Epstein.



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Msg ID: 2733978 Creepy Joe, did he take showers with his daughter? +3/-0     
Author:TheCrow
6/28/2022 6:07:19 PM

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Looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and hangs around with ducks- it's reasonable to assume it's a duck.

So, why would Trump party with Jeffrey Epstein?

Jeffrey Epstein introduced 14-year-old victim to Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago, Ghislaine Maxwell trial testimony reveals

 

An underage victim of Jeffrey Epstein testified Wednesday she competed in Donald Trump’s teen beauty pageant in the 1990s after being introduced to the future president by the notorious sex offender.

The revelation emerged during the accuser’s second day of testimony at Ghislaine Maxwell’s trial for grooming underage victims for Epstein’s abuse from 1994 to 2004.

“Mr. Epstein introduced you to Donald Trump?” Maxwell’s lawyer Laura Menninger asked the witness, who testified using the pseudonym Jane.

“Correct,” Jane responded.

 

Jane told the jury that she competed in Miss Teen USA shortly after meeting Trump with Epstein at Mar-a-Lago, Trump’s Palm Beach, Fla., resort. The Miss Teen USA pageant was organized by Miss Universe, which Trump owned from 1996 to 2015.

 

Trump wasn’t the only prominent man Jane met through Epstein.

“You recall Prince Andrew being on a flight?” Menninger inquired, referring to a trip on one of Epstein’s private planes.

“Yes,” said Jane.

Trump and Epstein partied in the same social circles in the 1980s and 1990s but had a falling out in the early 2000s over a real estate dispute, according to reports.

“I was not a fan of his, that I can tell you,” Trump said after Epstein was arrested in 2019.

On Tuesday, Epstein’s longtime pilot Larry Visoski testified about flying Trump on the sex offender’s private jets, along with Prince Andrew, former President Bill Clinton, the actor Kevin Spacey, the late “60 Minutes” correspondent Mike Wallace, and former U.S. senators John Glenn and George Mitchell.

Jane testified she was 14 years old when Maxwell and Epstein first approached her at a Michigan summer camp in 1994.

She alleged they groomed her for months before revealing their perverted intentions. Epstein and Maxwell forced her to participate in what she described as “orgies” throughout her teenage years.

“I was abused pretty much every time that I would go over to his house, and it all started to seem the same after a while — whether it was just him or there were other women involved, or me and Jeffrey and Ghislaine, it all started to seem the same,” said Jane. “After a while, you just become numb to it.”

The British publishing heiress’s lawyers sought to cast doubt on Jane’s credibility by grilling her on discrepancies between her trial testimony and initial statements to the FBI in late 2019 and early 2020.

Menninger asked the witness why she did not initially tell law enforcement Maxwell often contacted her on Epstein’s behalf.

“That memory has come back to you in the past two years?” asked Menninger.

“Well, memory isn’t linear,” the witness replied.

But Jane’s testimony was corroborated by her ex-boyfriend, who took the stand using the pseudonym Matt. He recalled Jane sharing details of her harsh upbringing with him, mentioning a “godfather” or “uncle” type figure in her life who “basically helped her mom pay the bills,” while they dated from 2006 to 2014. Jane had testified that Epstein paid her hundreds of dollars in cash after each abusive encounter, which typically began as a massage.

Matt recalled witnessing Jane argue with her mother in 2011 over the mom’s failure to intervene in Epstein’s abuse.

”How do you think I got the money, mom?” Matt quoted his ex. “Jane told her mother that the money was not free and that there’s no way she couldn’t have known.”

Maxwell has pleaded not guilty to all charges and says the government is using her as a scapegoat for Epstein, who killed himself at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in August 2019.

Before the jury entered the courtroom, two U.S. Marshals who guard Maxwell in the courtroom allowed Epstein’s alleged chief recruiter a brief opportunity to chat with her brother, Kevin Maxwell.

With her hands crossed over her heart, Maxwell gushed in conversation with her older brother.

Standing with sister Isabel Maxwell outside court, Kevin Maxwell said the brief chat was the first time he’d spoken to Ghislaine Maxwell in more than 500 days.

“On a personal note, it gave me a tremendous sense of relief to be close to her, to be able to actually see her in the flesh, even to be able to speak with her,” he said.

Maxwell’s brother referred reporters to the siblings’ request the United Nations intervene in the conditions of her confinement detention at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn. Maxwell has said she’s in de facto solitary confinement and being “tortured” by the federal prison system.

Shortly before Jane’s testimony concluded, Assistant U.S. Attorney Alison Moe asked Jane about her initial meetings with law enforcement — and why she may not have been fully forthcoming at the outset.

“I was sitting in a room full of strangers and telling them the most shameful, deepest secrets that I’ve been carrying around with me my whole life,” she said.

Maxwell’s lawyers also grilled Jane about a $5 million payout she received from an out of court compensation fund for Epstein victims.

Moe asked the witness how she felt about that settlement, of which she took home $2.9 million.

The question prompted Jane to break down in tears — the only time she did so in about eight hours of testimony.

The money would never compensate for the “pain, abuse, and suffering” caused by Epstein and Maxwell, she said.

“All the out of pocket money I paid to try to make this go away, and to try to fix myself,” she said.

“Hopefully, this just brings it all to an end. And I can move on with my life.”



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Msg ID: 2733982 While we're talking about presidents and showers.... +3/-0     
Author:TheCrow
6/28/2022 6:54:49 PM

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Mueller doubts the existence of the video but we all know how you guys feel about Mueller, investigations and facts.

But we'll probably never know for sure as long as The Donald and The Vlad are BFF.

Infamous Donald Trump 'golden shower' video 'probably does exist' says Christopher Steele

The video reportedly showed Donald Trump watching two sex workers pee on a bed in the presidential suite at Moscow's Ritz-Carlton Hotel. Photo / AP

The video reportedly showed Donald Trump watching two sex workers pee on a bed in the presidential suite at Moscow's Ritz-Carlton Hotel. Photo / AP

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A tape of former Donald Trump allegedly confessing that he enjoys being peed upon during sex (or watching others do so) "probably does exist", according to former British intelligence agent and Russian specialist Christopher Steele, despite the former US president's repeated objections that it doesn't.

The video – which reportedly showed Trump watching two sex workers pee on a bed (once slept in by the Obamas) in the presidential suite at Moscow's Ritz-Carlton Hotel while he was visiting Russia to attend the 2013 Miss Universe pageant – first came to public attention two years ago, with the release of the Mueller report.

Supposedly, the Ritz-Carlton was under surveillance at the time of Trump's stay by the FSB, Russia's main state security agency, which had microphones and hidden cameras in many of the rooms.

If it does exist, the footage would be in the possession of the Russian government – leading some to suspect that President Vladimir Putin used it to influence and/or blackmail Trump during his time as leader of the free world.

The Mueller report – which investigated the Trump administration's possible collusion with the Russian government in the lead-up to the 2016 election – concluded it was unlikely that the footage exists.

But according to Steele – who compiled 17 intelligence reports in 2016 that concluded the Russian Government has been "cultivating, supporting and assisting" Trump for years – there is a chance that the video is real.

Speaking to ABC News, Steele said he believes the alleged tape "probably does" exist, but that he "wouldn't put 100 per cent certainty on it".

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Asked why, if it does exist, it hasn't been released, he said that he thinks "the Russians felt they'd probably got pretty good value out of Donald Trump when he was president of the US".

Earlier this month, during a private speech to a room full of Republican donors, the 75-year-old brought up the clip unprompted, telling the crowd, "I'm not into golden showers."

"You know the great thing, our great first lady – 'That one,' she said, 'I don't believe that one'," he added.

While Trump claimed that his wife, Melania, didn't believe "that one", former FBI director James Comey told ABC News in 2018 that the former president had actually been extremely concerned his wife would think the allegations were true.

"He said, 'If there's even a 1 per cent change my wife thinks that's true, that's terrible'," Comey recalled.

James Comey said Donald Trump was actually extremely concerned Melania would think the allegations were true. Photo / File

 

"And I remember thinking, how could your wife think there's a 1 per cent chance you were with prostitutes peeing on each other? I'm a flawed human being but there is literally zero chance that my wife would think that was true.

"So what kind of marriage to what kind of man does your wife think there's only a 99 per cent chance you didn't do that?"

Asked if he believed Trump's denial about ever having taken part in the alleged acts, Comey said "it's possible, but I don't know".

"I honestly never though these words would come out of my mouth, but I don't know whether the current President of the United States was with prostitutes peeing on each other in Moscow in 2013," he said.

Retaliating to Comey's claims, back when he was still allowed on Twitter, Trump called the former FBI director an "untruthful slime ball" who was responsible for some of the "worst 'botch jobs' of history".

"It was my great honour to fire James Comey!" he added.

 

Trump also used the word "leak" multiple times in his take-down of Comey, which was unfortunate given the … nature of the allegations. Make of that what you will.



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Msg ID: 2733986 Still Sore trump lost? (NT) +4/-1     
Author:bladeslap
6/28/2022 7:30:14 PM

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