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Msg ID: 2734402 The Hypocrisy of the Right +3/-1     
Author:bladeslap
7/4/2022 9:37:24 AM

What is it you see signs on Trump supporters' lawns

"My Body, My Choice" ... When it comes to wearing a mask 

But, the same doesnt' apply to a Woman's choice?



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Msg ID: 2734403 The immorality and Irrationality of the Left  +4/-3     
Author:Shooting Shark
7/4/2022 9:41:26 AM

Reply to: 2734402

Wearing a mask

isn't

killing an infant.

wearing a mask supposedly protects the wearer 

killing an infant takes another persons life.

You are a babykiller.

and seem to "reason impaired"

like all lib

useful idiots

 

 



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Msg ID: 2734484 The immorality and Irrationality of the Left  +3/-0     
Author:bladeslap
7/5/2022 5:42:20 AM

Reply to: 2734403

Please tell me where in the bible it defines when life starts... then we can have the discussion

Does it start before sex? 

At conception?

When there is a hearbeat?

Please cite the verse



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Msg ID: 2734510 Really, Bladeslap  +2/-2     
Author:Old Guy
7/5/2022 10:28:20 AM

Reply to: 2734484

You question when the life of a human starts!

A start is the point in time something has its origin, the beginning!

Did not they teach you anything in the schools in New Jersey?

So let me ask you, when is the beginning of life?

1.  Before sex?  How stupid!  

2.  At conception?  The origin, the point where the process begins!

3.  When there is a neartbeat?  That can't be it, because it has many things that happen before the heart can beat.  Like the heart even to form!  Not the beginning!

If you consider anything other than number two.  You are truly a useful idio, that places feeling before facts!

 



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Msg ID: 2734517 Really, Bladeslap  +2/-2     
Author:Shooting Shark
7/5/2022 11:02:22 AM

Reply to: 2734510

Yeah, what old guy said.. at least I'm a physical plane. 
You and the disgusting RINO think its ok to kill babies .
you wanted a theological explanation , Buddha?

See the thread above (TO Crowbot) 

60 million murdered souls since 1973 crying out from under the Throne of God saying:

"How long, Holy God, Soverign and True, before you avenge our deaths?"


(This recent decision was a good start.) 

November is coming! 

Useful idiot! 



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Msg ID: 2734520 The Extreme Right Are The True RINO's... +3/-0     
Author:Jett
7/5/2022 11:17:52 AM

Reply to: 2734517

The true Republicans are the Ronnie Regan types, conservative patriots like Liz Cheney, and many more. The Extreme Right came along and hijacked the Republican party, radicalized it, and claimed it for their own.

   



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Msg ID: 2734543 Really, Bladeslap  +2/-0     
Author:TheCrow
7/5/2022 1:36:29 PM

Reply to: 2734517

He's too lazy to analyze, reword his position.

I'll repeat- when is it a person? The thoughtful, reasoned authorities of various faiths vary on the question from conception to first breath. You know, the breath of life....



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Msg ID: 2734569 Really, Bladeslap  +2/-1     
Author:Shooting Shark
7/5/2022 4:09:01 PM

Reply to: 2734543

So what? 
Various faiths DO vary about the nature of human life. And in a democracy, faith matters, because it informs a persons world view. you are free to disagree with a particular faith, but you don't have the right to impose YoUR. World view on someone else. That's the idea behind freedom of religion in America.

Thst said, the argument has been made by athests that Faith itself is dangerous to a secular point of view. They any religious viewpoint or public  expression of a religious view codified in law is a violation of The Separation of Church and State. The problem is, they too have a worldview, and in fact it's a minority viewpoint in the larger mosaic of a plurality of religious belief in America. 

The ( AHA) American Humanist Association ( a secular political action group) originally supported the RVWade argument back in 1973-- the NationalAbortion Rights  Action a league ( NARAL) was an off shoot of the AHA group, as is (PAW) People for the American Way. These groups have one thing in common philosophically -- they promoted "Naturalism" the idea man evoked by blind natural causes --there is no "evidence" of an intelligent creator, much less a personal God, much less a spiritual basis of life, ( or the idea of "life"after physical death) as imagined by the Christian and Jewish sects which comprise a majority of religious faiths in America.

Knowing they lacked popular support for a democratic support  for abortion on demand, these groups ( and their billionaire sponsors and organizations ) used the Supreme court to make an end run around this entire question.. when does life begin, and when should a fetus require constitutional protection and due process to legally terminate its life? 

You Libz can't answer that question. You want to frame the argument in various ways, but today it's long past time to debate tgat moral and legal question, nation-wide.
A woman doesn't get pregnant by herself. I fact, Congress has ruled the bilologial father has rights concerning the welfare of the child, enumerated under the Uniform Child Custody Jurisdiction Enforcement Act (UCCJEA), T theb ose rights  are not recognized by so -called "legal" abortion, and it's not simply a WONANS right to kill her unborn child  any more than it is to kill that child after its born.

A "zygote" is not a fetus, and contraception is not a abortion. Catholics my disagree on that point. They make good reasoned arguments about the significance of sex, and it's procreative potentiality. Secular Libz on the otherhand are all about sex as recreation - or a "lifestyle" choice. The latter is condemned as "carnality" in most  religious circles, a form of idolatry, --however hypocritical that stance may be seen among clerics and parishioners alike.

Still, unwanted pregnancy and complicated human consequences is today often the result of the so called 

"Sexual Revolution " 

a socio-political revolution supported mostly by secularists  eugenicists, pornographers, sexual deviates, and yes,

billion dollar abortion profit centers ( Planned Parenthood) 

This decision puts the nations collective religious faiths and moral opinions of American citizens front and center concerning future litigation and legislstion to determine  the "legality" of Abortion, and a bunch of other Lib sacred cows.  --My guess is you Libz will now see how little democratic support for abortion in this country actually exists.

I could be wrong. Whis this debate will reveal in the future  is the underlying state of religious faith and comittmentd in America-- secularists have unjustly held the abortion bully pulpit " a woman's  right to choose" for the last 49 years. They don't actually represent the views of the  majority of citizens, who view abortion s a moral evil. 

and view you as a 

Disgusting RINO! 

 



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Msg ID: 2734618 Really, Bladeslap  +3/-0     
Author:TheCrow
7/5/2022 6:33:09 PM

Reply to: 2734569

The point is that the voice in your head- personhood begins at conception, is no more valid than what any other faith believes.

IF you are a true American, your faith determines your actions but not the law of the land. America has no 'state church', any and all faiths and interpretations are equally valid. If you believe in the 'first breath' as determining personhood, imposing your opinion violates that fundamental freedom of religion.

Human DNA life does not constitute personhood or your warts would be people.

The rest of your post is your typical irrational rambling, dissembling.



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Msg ID: 2734640 Really, Bladeslap  +2/-2     
Author:Shooting Shark
7/5/2022 11:40:25 PM

Reply to: 2734618

Nice dodge Crowbot.

you have a reading comprehension problem. 
yes, I agreed in my previous posting that there is no State Church" in America. 

Nor should there be.

The problem for Libz and disgusting RiNOs is

Democracy works on majority beliefs

those who support abortion for whatever reason

I suspect are a minority. 

Those who can justify abortion on demand are predominantly secularists

in fact, RVW was primarily advanced by secularists

snd the organizations that support abortion on demand are often hostile to 

religious beliefs in general

religious beliefs held by a majority in America

and that majority, in a democracy, can vote for politicians 

and hold those politicians accountable for supporting legislation contrary to

the voters who elected them.

 

So, now you radical leftist crypto-tyrants will need to put up, or shut up!

you don't have the Supreme Court to hide behind anymore! 

 

So, You don't like the idea of state legislatures governing legal abortion?

 (Fine.) 

Congress will now need to actually PASS a Federal LAW -- (imagine that!!) 

Good luck with that!

So tell me, when does life begin"


And why should I agree with you? 

This fall election should be very revealing concerning

how much actual popular political support exists for baby killing Democrats

and radical leftists

and Creepy Uncle Joe!

 

And especially for all you

Disgusting RINOs!!

"wear your masks"

Useful idiots! 



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