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Msg ID: 2734507 To Crowbot, from your question below +2/-2     
Author:Shooting Shark
7/5/2022 10:22:36 AM

https://www.openbible.info/topics/god_knew_us_before_we_were_born

Herse a 100 verses that suggest God knew us BEFORE we were born. 

The Mormons, for example, believe in the "pre-existence" of the human soul,

that we are literally God the Fathers children, who take on human flesh as we are born into this physical creatio. they would have the above verses to help validate that concept. 

The intelligence seen in biological systems demands an origin. That origin isn't human explained adequately by 19th century "science" ( Darwinism) that somehow assumes "life" emerged without an intelligent "Creator"., that creator is, in theology, God-- who exists in a plane of existence that is not physical, ( spirit) but rather a part of what modern physics describes as a "multiverse" --with all the mystery attendant beyond the quantum level. 

So Crowbot, you asked when does life begin? You wanted a verse, I gave you 100. But coming from someone who thinks St Paul was a mythical figure, I assume your half hearted question was rhetorical, intended to be a point of contention with theology, not a serious question at all. 

 You silly Libs want to compare your own behaviors  to the mating habits of Chimpansees, and then want to be able to kill a human being legally at some point in the physicsl process of gestation! ( even chimps don't do that!)

If you want to do that, take your legal arguments to God himself and explain why you think killing a human creation of HIS (who HE knew befor its birth ) is "A-OK"

Good luck with that! 

Disgusting RINO! 

 



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Msg ID: 2734514 To Crowbot, from your question below +2/-2     
Author:Shooting Shark
7/5/2022 10:38:06 AM

Reply to: 2734507

My brother,  who is a criminal defense lawyer, and I were discussing the RVW decision .. he made a few good points I hadn't thought of..

He read the decision and believesv the Supreme court didn't go far enough, in his opinion.

One undeniable constitutional right is the "Right to Life." When the state deprives someone of their life ( capital punishment) it can only do so with due process. So from a legal standpoint, the "right to life"of an unborn child is denied unless due process is somehow involved. that assumes the child is "alive" 

It follows that the question of " when life begins " must be determined by the state, as it stands. (if Abortion is to be considered "legal"., the taking of a human life without due process is illegal)

And since the USSC and Congress have not offered an opinion on that matter, the door is now open for future legislation rising to that same Court and body at the federal level, as done in the past on such issues where "states rights" cannot be interpreted to be radically different.. an example is the federal Act which regulates child custody and support (UCCJA).

UCCJA recognizes the rights of FATHERS and mothers. It follows that if a woman wanted an abortion, if Tge child were deemed to be living  both parties would need consent, and that under circumstances adjudicated by other laws (due process) 

So The ball is back in your court. If you want tokill babies, libz, you need need to tell us all "when life Begins" and convince Congress to pass the laws required.

Disgusting RINO! 



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Msg ID: 2734540 To Crowbot, from your question below +3/-0     
Author:TheCrow
7/5/2022 1:27:54 PM

Reply to: 2734514

From the creation of the zygote the woman's body is a mere vessel?



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Msg ID: 2734576 To Crowbot, from your question below +2/-1     
Author:Shooting Shark
7/5/2022 4:21:30 PM

Reply to: 2734540

No,

Sex causes pregnancy.

most abortions are elective. 

infanticide is not a moral method of contraception.

"Legalized" taking of a human life (without due process) is unconstitutional,

It's a contradiction in terms! 

You Libz can't even define a "woman"

much less define when "life begins"

Many of you Libz apear to be blinded by your lack of a religious moral center.

And you, Crowbot  

appear to be just another

Disgusting RINO!  

 



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Msg ID: 2734542 To Crowbot, from your question below +4/-0     
Author:TheCrow
7/5/2022 1:32:28 PM

Reply to: 2734507

"Not relying on voices in your head"



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