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Msg ID: 2736459 Jan. 6 Panel Presents Evidence of Trump’s Refusal to Stop the Riot The Hous +3/-0     
Author:TheCrow
7/22/2022 11:43:41 AM

Trump's violent coup has started. January 6 was an exercise to test the limit of Trump's followers treasonous beliefs and willingness to do what has been posted here often- a violent overthrow of a democraticaly authorized government and installation of a fascist autocratic goovernment by true believers of Trump's wisdom.

Trump won't have to worry about campaigns or elections as 'president for life'. His words, his wisdom, his faultless edicts will be propagated in little red books. Crowds of blind followers will assure that this is so, everbody is in line.

Wait- where did this happen before....?

 

The House panel painted a detailed picture of how, as officials rushed to respond to an attack on the United States government, the commander in chief chose for hours to do nothing.

 

The House committee investigating the Jan. 6 riot, documented President Donald J. Trump’s inaction to call off the mob during the 187 minutes after rioters descended on the Capitol, before he issued a public response.CreditCredit...Doug Mills/The New York Times

 
Published July 21, 2022Updated July 22, 2022, 9:24 a.m. ET
 
As a mob of his supporters assaulted the Capitol, former President Donald J. Trump sat in his dining room off the Oval Office, watching the violence on television and choosing to do nothing for hours to stop it, an array of former administration officials testified to the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack in accounts laid out on Thursday.

In a final public hearing of the summer and one of the most dramatic of the inquiry, the panel provided a panoramic account of how, even as the lives of law enforcement officers, members of Congress and his own vice president were under threat, Mr. Trump could not be moved to act until after it was clear that the riot had failed to disrupt Congress’s session to confirm his election defeat.

Even then, the committee showed in never-before-seen footage from the White House, Mr. Trump privately refused to concede — “I don’t want to say the election’s over!” he angrily told aides as he recorded a video message that had been scripted for him the day after the attack — or to condemn the assault on the Capitol as a crime.

Calling on a cast of witnesses assembled to make it hard for viewers to dismiss as tools of a partisan witch hunt — top Trump aides, veterans and military leaders, loyal Republicans and even members of Mr. Trump’s own family — the committee established that the president willfully rejected their efforts to persuade him to mobilize a response to the deadliest attack on the Capitol in two centuries.

 

“You’re the commander in chief. You’ve got an assault going on on the Capitol of the United States of America, and there’s nothing?” Gen. Mark A. Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the nation’s highest-ranking military officer, told the panel. “No call? Nothing? Zero?”

It was a closing argument of sorts in the case the panel has built against Mr. Trump, one whose central assertion is that the former president was derelict in his duty for failing to do all that he could — or anything at all, for 187 minutes — to call off the assault carried out in his name.

Thursday’s session, led by two military veterans with testimony from another, was also an appeal to patriotism as the panel asserted that Mr. Trump’s inaction during the riot was a final, glaring violation of his oath of office, coming at the end of a multipronged and unsuccessful effort to overturn his 2020 election loss.

In perhaps one of the most jarring revelations, the committee presented evidence that a call from a Pentagon official to coordinate a response to the assault on the Capitol as it was underway initially went unanswered because, according to a White House lawyer, “the president didn’t want anything done.”

 
ImageMatthew Pottinger, who was the deputy national security adviser, and Sarah Matthews, a former White House press aide, were the two in-person witnesses at the hearing on Thursday.
Matthew Pottinger, who was the deputy national security adviser, and Sarah Matthews, a former White House press aide, were the two in-person witnesses at the hearing on Thursday.Credit...Haiyun Jiang/The New York Times
 
 
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And the panel played Secret Service radio transmissions and testimony that showed in chilling detail how close Vice President Mike Pence came to danger during the riot, including an account of members of his Secret Service detail being so rattled by what was unfolding that they were contacting family members to say goodbye.

 

Both pieces of testimony were provided by a former White House official whom the committee did not identify by name — and whose voice was altered to protect his identity — who was described as having had “national security responsibilities.”

The witness described an exchange between Eric Herschmann, a lawyer working in the White House, and the White House counsel, Pat A. Cipollone, about the call from the Pentagon.

“Mr. Herschmann turned to Mr. Cipollone and said, ‘The president didn’t want anything done,’” the witness testified. “Mr. Cipollone had to take the call himself.”



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Msg ID: 2736470 Not evidence, mage up! +1/-2     
Author:Old Guy
7/22/2022 12:47:36 PM

Reply to: 2736459

Do you really believe that someone, that will not say his name, let anyone see his face, have his voice distorfed, and directed by a movie producer is real?

Each day ths becomes more of a circus, a waste of money and time.

 



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Msg ID: 2736474 Trump did NOTHING for at least 3 hours- except watch on TV +3/-0     
Author:TheCrow
7/22/2022 1:15:03 PM

Reply to: 2736470

He violated his oath to support and defend the Constitution.

Sometimes, inaction is a criminal act.

Trump is a demonstrated physical and moral coward; a liar, a cheat and a thief.



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Msg ID: 2736475 Just Imagine What It’s Like to Be Anywhere Near Trump Right Now +3/-0     
Author:TheCrow
7/22/2022 1:21:51 PM

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It's well known that Trump has absolutely no loyalty to anybody. He will always do whatever serves him best, whether it is honest, factual or damages others. Trump first.

He will justify, rationalise and blame anybody and everybody rather than accept that he might be wrong, much less criminal.

 

Just Imagine What It’s Like to Be Anywhere Near Trump Right Now

THE NEW ABNORMAL

After this week’s House Jan. 6 revelations, the former president appears to be losing support—and panicking about what happens next. It’s only going to get worse, says Mary Trump.

Photo Illustration by Thomas Levinson/The Daily Beast/Getty

 

It’s been a big week in politics with revelations galore from the House Jan. 6 committee. Former President Donald Trump’s attempts at stopping the peaceful transfer of power have been the talk of the nation—and this week’s admissions at the committee are a “pretty big deal,” says Molly Jong-Fast on this episode of ng>The New Abnormal podcast.

But it’s not all bad news. Speaking with Molly, former presidential candidate and independent Utah Senate candidate Evan McMullin reveals that he is seeing “a weakening in Trump support across the country.”

“I think that people are tired,” says McMullin. “They are tired of the chaos and the broken politics and the extremism. They want change, but they want more constructive, effective change, not the, you know, not the extremes who have just failed to govern.”

 

According to McMullin, reports about Trump’s attempts to launch a 2024 presidential campaign stem from the fact that “he’s getting nervous that his support is weakening.”

McMullin notes that Trump’s popularity has plummeted in Utah since Jan. 6 and would now be about 37 percent of the vote, a far cry from his 2020 election high of 58 percent.

“A lot of people here voted for him because they wanted to vote for a Republican, but they never loved him,” he says. “If they’re given another alternative that they think reflects their positions enough or their values enough, their traditional or moderate Republican views, they will choose that rather than Donald Trump or the far right. And that in part is what gives me optimism about our future here in Utah, but what we can do as a country as well.”

“Probably the most glaring part of these hearings is how much the people around Donald knew and how long they knew it,” she says. “None of this should shock us. None of his behavior should shock us. None of his viciousness should shock us, but how long they stayed silent, how long they protected him, knowing what they knew. And I don’t just mean in real time. I mean, when there was an opportunity to do something, even after Jan. 6.

“The silence, the enabling, their continuing to admire him is so egregious and almost incomprehensible.”

Mary Trump says her uncle’s mental health conditions are “serious and they’re deteriorating. Any serious illness that's not treated gets worse over time.

“He is addicted to being at the center of attention. I’m sure he’s as riveted by these hearings as we are, but in completely different ways. And for him to feel that the focus is shifting away from him or that he’s losing power will make things even worse because he won’t confront that and process it and deal with it. He will bury it and therefore worsen his situation.”

“I can only imagine what it’s like to be anywhere near him right now. I'm sure the temper, the out-of-control narcissism must be just unspeakably difficult for people around him to deal with. Not that I have any compassion for any of them at this point, but yeah, it’s only gonna get worse from here.”



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Msg ID: 2736476 Frantic Secret Service radio traffic show how close Pence was to danger +3/-0     
Author:TheCrow
7/22/2022 1:25:51 PM

Reply to: 2736470

At least one person in America's executive appreciated what was happening and tried to intervene.

While Trump watched TV.... 

 

“We need to move now,” one Secret Service agent testified. “If we lose any more time, we may lose the ability to do so.”

 
The House select committee released dramatic footage detailing the chaos in Vice President Mike Pence’s office on Jan. 6, 2021. (Video: Julie Yoon/The Washington Post, Photo: Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post)
 
For 13 minutes on Jan. 6, 2021, as smoke clouded the air and Vice President Mike Pence hid from rioters in his office adjacent to the Senate chamber, his Secret Service detail scrambled — in increasingly frantic radio messages — to clear a path for Pence to flee the Capitol.
 

On Thursday, the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack revealed harrowing video and audio that showed just how perilously close Pence and his protective detail came to danger, detailing how the protesters whom President Donald Trump had riled up turned their anger on the man he blamed for failing to overturn the results of the 2020 election.

“We need to move now,” an agent said, according to excerpts of radio traffic played by the committee. “If we lose any more time, we may lose the ability to do so.”

 

Pence’s Secret Service detail described smoke of unknown origin filling a hallway of the Capitol and protesters advancing on outnumbered police. “Harden that door up,” one agent said.

A White House security official who was monitoring the traffic told the committee that agents were “starting to fear for their own lives.”

“There were calls to say goodbye to family members, so on and so forth,” the security official said in audiotaped testimony. “For whatever the reason was on the ground, the VP detail thought that this was about to get very ugly.”

Read our live coverage and analysis of Thursday night's Jan. 6 hearing

The communications of Pence’s Secret Service agents were among the most remarkable revelations of Thursday’s hearing. The committee featured snippets of radio traffic, a series of messages exchanged by security officials monitoring the traffic from the White House, and testimony from one of those officials.

 

On July 21 the House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack outlined a detailed account of President Trump’s defiant inaction during the riot. (Video: Adriana Usero/The Washington Post, Photo: Tom Brenner/The Washington Post)

Although the committee did not share which office the anonymous witness worked for, a very small group of individuals would have had access to such radio traffic. Secret Service staff in an emergency operations center monitor those communications. But it’s also likely that employees in the White House Situation Room could have tuned in to the radio traffic, because the Capitol was under attack and their job is to monitor threats to the country’s security.

Rep. Elaine Luria (D-Va.), who co-chaired Thursday’s hearing, said the official’s name was being withheld out of concern that his testimony could draw retaliation.

The witness said he could tell the danger that Pence and Secret Service agents were in because some agents were yelling and screaming, and some sent “very personal” messages to have colleagues tell their families goodbye for them.

“It sounds like that we came very close to either, service having to use lethal options, or worse,” the official said. “At that point, I don’t know. Is the VP compromised? Is the detail? I don’t know. ... If they’re screaming and saying things like, ‘say goodbye to the family,’ like the floor needs to know this is going to a whole ’nother level soon.”

 

“The floor” could be a reference to the main office space of the National Security Council.

Pence seeks distance from Trump as he considers 2024 presidential run

Indeed, less than a minute after Pence was rushed off the Senate floor to his hideaway just 100 feet away, the rioters — some of whom had earlier been chanting “Hang Mike Pence!” — breached the second floor of the Capitol, coming within spitting range of where the vice president was huddled with a small group of aides and family members.

Later, as agents escorted Pence, his wife and daughter and top advisers to a garage in the basement of the Capitol Visitor Center, Pence’s group came within 40 feet of the rioters as they raced through the underground complex, the committee found.

 

Trump was watching television footage of the riot in the West Wing dining room, and was well aware of the mob’s mood and actions, the committee showed.

But in a tweet at 2:24 p.m., the president further attacked his vice president, writing, “Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done.”

“USA demands the truth!” Trump concluded.

Sarah Matthews, a former White House communications aide who testified before the committee Thursday night, described how she had watched, in countless rallies, Trump’s supporters latch onto his every word.

The 2:24 p.m. message, she said, was like “pouring gasoline on the fire.”

The tweet convinced her to resign, she testified. It also prompted Matthew Pottinger, Trump’s deputy national security adviser, to leave his job, he told the committee on Thursday night.

 

“I simply did not want to be associated with the events that were unfolding at the Capitol,” Pottinger said.

Cassidy Hutchinson and the all-knowing presence of Washington's aides

During the hearing, committee members also played witness testimony recounting efforts by Pence to quell the riot from his secure location well into the afternoon of Jan. 6.

“He was very animated and issued very explicit, very direct, unambiguous orders,” said Gen. Mark A. Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, in a taped deposition.

Milley recalled Pence’s directives: “Get the military down here. Get the [National] Guard here. Put down this situation.”



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Msg ID: 2736481 The real story of January 6 isn’t what Trump did – it’s what he didn’t +3/-0     
Author:TheCrow
7/22/2022 1:42:15 PM

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Does the name Kitty Genovese mean anything, TrumpeRINO frog boys? Probably not- The Donald has never mentioned it.

A screaming Kitty Genovese was stabbed to death and her neighbors did nothing while the attack occurred over at least 10 minutes.

The January 6 riot was an effort to stop the election process and a peaceful transfer of power. Ignore, accept the crime and live with the historic effects if you want. It's what Trump wants you to do.

I know some TrumpeRINO frog boys won't ignore the practice run of January 6. You intend to do it better next time. Brown shirts.

 

 

What was Trump doing in those crucial hours when democracy was on the line, when lives were in danger, when our very constitutional system of government hung in the balance? Absolutely nothing

‘He did not intervene to stop the insurrection; he did not issue orders or offer help to the military and law enforcement bodies that could have quelled it. Mostly, he just sat on his ass.’
‘He did not intervene to stop the insurrection; he did not issue orders or offer help to the military and law enforcement bodies that could have quelled it. Mostly, he just sat on his ass.’ Photograph: Drago Alexander/ABACA/Rex/Shutterstock
Fri 22 Jul 2022 06.15 EDT
 
 
For what was originally supposed to be the final January 6 hearing, the committee was faced with a difficult task. The ninth broadcast was meant to be the culmination of the investigation, with a primetime schedule that would allow the congresspeople to review their findings, repeat their sharpest analyses of Donald Trump’s legal violations and moral derelictions, and make their final case to their two most significant audiences – the American public, on the one hand, and the attorney general, Merrick Garland, on the other – that Trump’s conduct on and before January 6 merits prosecution.
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But they were also meant to do all of this through revelations of Trump’s own conduct at the White House in the hours while the riot unfolded, conduct that was remarkable not for Trump’s scheming but for his inaction. What was Trump doing during those crucial hours when democracy was on the line, when violence erupted, when lives were in danger and our very constitutional system of government hung in the balance? He did not intervene to stop the insurrection; he did not issue orders or offer help to the military and law enforcement bodies that could have quelled it. Mostly, he just sat on his ass.

Trump’s unwillingness to act is itself damning, of course, but it presented a problem for the committee in that it doesn’t make for compelling TV. For all their political gravity, the January 6 committee hearings derive much of their power from spectacle, high production values, and their capacity to engage and entertain. But the negligence, inertia, passivity that Trump showed in those hours – these things have no plot.

But the committee’s presentation made swift work of highlighting the stakes of Trump’s refusal to call off the mob. Trump spent the hours of the insurrection mostly holed up in a West Wing dining room, watching Fox News’ coverage of the unfolding violence on a TV mounted to a wall. During these hours, we know that Trump made calls to several Republican senators, asking the likes of Alabama’s Tommy Tuberville to stop the election certification even as he was evacuating the Capitol to escape the mob. We know he received calls from Republican congressmen like minority leader Kevin McCarthy, who begged and screamed at Trump to call off the mob while McCarthy and his aides cowered in hiding. We know he got pleas and lectures from the likes of White House Counsel Pat Cipollone, who in taped testimony seemed livid and contemptuous of his former client, and described himself as one of many advisers imploring Trump to call off the murderous crowds that by then were roaming the Capitol halls in search of Mike Pence.

In previous hearings, the committee had been exceedingly generous toward Republicans, casting Pence as a hero for merely declining to facilitate a coup, repeatedly praising the courage of testifying Republicans who have aided Trump’s other crimes and the beauty and integrity of the very institutions whose failures led to January 6 itself. But Thursday’s hearing was a departure from previous installments in that it was willing to hold other Republicans to account, or at least to ridicule their hypocrisy.

The committee members made repeated references to the evident terror of Kevin McCarthy, the Republicans’ House leader, who has since made a great effort to bring Trump back into the party fold. They repeatedly played clips of Mitch McConnell, who has said he would support Trump again in 2024, blaming the former president for the attack. They showed an infamous photo of Missouri senator Josh Hawley raising a fist in encouragement to the insurrectionist mob, and then they showed security footage from the Capitol after the rioters invaded. Hawley – the author of Manhood: The Masculine Virtues America Needs – could be seen running frantically away.

Placed in the context of all this fear and anger from the men who had spent so long serving him and courting his approval, Trump’s refusal to act transforms. It becomes visible not as a passive failure but as a willful choice. All around him, in his presence and through his phone, people who had been his most dependable sycophants for years were pleading with him to act, explaining that the country, and many human lives, were at stake. Knowing this, it is difficult to see Trump’s refusal to act as any of the things that his malfeasances are normally excused as – incompetence, or childlike narcissism, or low-stakes petulance. His actions come to seem not merely mendacious, but sadistic.

Yet Thursday night’s hearing also did a great deal to puncture the mystique of showmanship that has surrounded Trump. In archival clips, we saw outtakes of his Rose Garden video from late on the afternoon of the 6th, the one where, after it was clear that his coup attempt would fail, he finally told the mob that he loved them, and to go home. In the footage, Trump hesitates to speak, repeatedly asking an offscreen aide when he should start. He glowers at his own image on a camera screen; he dispenses with his scripted remarks to deliver a weird, rambling, and barely comprehensible missive to his followers.

In outtakes from a speech he taped the next morning, after the crowd had gone home, he stutters over his words and petulantly nitpicks the script. Damningly, he refuses to say that the election is over; the line gets cut from his remarks.

But the footage is most striking because of how bumbling and small Trump looks, how starkly his own peevishness and intellectual vacuity contrasts with the moral weight of what he has done. He fumbles his words, unable to speak clearly. He bangs on the podium in frustration; he can’t pronounce “yesterday.” “Yesterday is a hard word for me,” he says. And later, “Is it defied or defiled?” Maybe it’s both.

  • Moira Donegan is a Guardian US columnist



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