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Msg ID: 2738491 A child's question to a liberal daddy +3/-2     
Author:observer II
8/9/2022 5:33:25 PM

Daughter: Daddy, what were you doing when the government took all my freedoms away?

 

Daddy: Sorry honey, I wore a muzzle, hid behind the sofa and called anybody who spoke out against it a conspiracy theorist.



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Msg ID: 2738495 I'll hide Top secret documents +3/-2     
Author:bladeslap
8/9/2022 5:36:06 PM

Reply to: 2738491

Son: "Hey Daddy, what happens if I hide top secret documets in my personal residence even thought it's a felony"

Daddy: "The FBI will come to yoru door and raid your house and probably charge you with a felony"

Son "But what about this guy, Observer who comes off as an angry delusional paranoid person"

Daddy: "He's just bitter Trump got decimated. One he gets back on his meds, he'll calm down"

Son: "unlikely. They don't make meds that strong"


Daddy: "Well son, this is one time you may be right"

 



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Msg ID: 2738505 The first problem Trump has is possession of classified documents, period. +4/-0     
Author:TheCrow
8/9/2022 6:28:33 PM

Reply to: 2738495

Improper storage and/or security of classified material then arises. 

Those carry serious penalties, especially if he has shared any of the information with, let's say- foreign leaders.

Everybody and their cousin and the dog know that the rules don't apply to the rich and powerful, expecially former presidents.

Trummp has been "cruisin' for this bruising" for a long, long while:

 

 

Basically nothing was sacred to Donald Trump during the 2016 presidential campaign, except Hillary Clinton's email account. This was the one thing he insisted needed to be handled by the book. And in Trump's telling, Clinton's choice to use a private email server while she was secretary of state had grave consequences. At one point, Trump said he was “sure” that China had hacked her server and that the whole thing was “putting all of America and our citizens in danger -- great danger.” He said at another point, "We can’t hand over our government to someone whose deepest, darkest secrets may be in the hands of our enemies.”

 
 

You'd think a guy who felt so strongly about that would go above and beyond to protect his personal communications once he became president. But apparently you'd be wrong.

Politico is reporting that Trump has eschewed the normal security procedures when it comes to his personal cellphones. He has at least two — one for making calls and one for Twitter — but the call-capable phone has a camera and a microphone, which was against protocol in the Obama administration because those things could be used to monitor a president's activities and movements. As for the Twitter phone, Trump reportedly refuses to swap it out and has gone as many as five months without having it checked by security experts, despite phones being checked every 30 days during the Obama administration.

 

Trump's reasoning for resisting the regular security sweep? It's “too inconvenient,” one official said.

That sound you hear is 60 million Clinton supporters tearing out their hair. You may recall that this was exactly the justification Clinton used for her private server: convenience. “When I got to work as secretary of state, I opted for convenience to use my personal email account, which was allowed by the State Department, because I thought it would be easier to carry just one device for my work and for my personal emails instead of two,” she said.

On the campaign trail, Trump was very worried about revealing America’s secrets

Whether convenience was truly Clinton's reason for the private server is up for debate (it certainly seems possible that she was attempting to avoid disclosure). But even if you set that aside, there are eerie parallels between what Trump attacked Clinton for and what he's doing now.

 

“Clinton’s home email server that she lied to the American people about was a profound national security risk,” Trump wrote in one Facebook post. “Hillary Clinton has bad judgment and is unfit to serve as President.”

He said in July 2016 in a campaign speech: “This is not just extreme carelessness with classified material, which is still totally disqualifying. This is calculated, deliberate, premeditated misconduct.”

He added on the eve of the election: “It's believed that no less than five foreign intelligence agencies successfully hacked into Hillary's illegal insecure server. In other words, Hillary's corrupt criminal scheme put the safety of every American family in danger; that's what's happened.”

 

A lack of regular security checks on Trump's cellphone may not be on the same scale as a “home-brew” private email server, but the practical implications are similar: The possibility that foreign actors could gain access and use it against Trump and the United States. Trump seemed very bothered by that possibility as a candidate; he seems far less bothered as president — almost as though he wasn't really that concerned in the first place. And this is hardly the first time he has seemed cavalier about protecting America's secrets; there was, of course, that time he blurted out classified information in a meeting with Russian officials.

A White House aide insisted to Politico that technological advances have made for more secure devices and perhaps necessitate less procedural security. But Trump went big on the importance of taking every precaution as a candidate. Matching the Obama administration's protocols would seem a very basic way to avoid any possibility of the “great danger” Trump warned about as a candidate.

Aaron Blake is senior political reporter, writing for The Fix. A Minnesota native, he has also written about politics for the Minneapolis Star Tribune and The Hill newspaper.  Twitter
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Msg ID: 2738723 Why don't you ask hitlery (NT) +2/-2     
Author:observer II
8/12/2022 7:21:27 AM

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Msg ID: 2738726 You don't even understand the difference +3/-1     
Author:RT Carlson
8/12/2022 7:29:25 AM

Reply to: 2738723

There's a big difference between someone using an e-mail server and sending/receiving documents that were LATER classified as classified (not top secret) compared to a former president being served a subpoena to relinquish top secret and even higher classified documents about nuclear weapons.

What's even worse is he's claiming it was bogus, yet he refuses to unmask the search warrant.

In that little brain of yours, I'm waiting to see how you explain this one away. 

Turn to FOX and see what guidance they give you to explain the un-explainable.

Your time on here is done observer. You have no leg to stand on and the Republicans are scratchign their head about what to do or say next.

Notice how ALL the republicans suddenly became very silent when Team Trump refused to uncover the search warrant voluntarily?

Notice how Team Trump also said they are going to fight in court the unmasking of the search warrant by the DOJ?

If you can't figure out in that little head of yours what all this means, then you need to leave here and never be heard from again.



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Msg ID: 2738744 "Why don't you ask hitlery"? Why would I ask Hillary about Trump's insecure +3/-0     
Author:TheCrow
8/12/2022 12:31:58 PM

Reply to: 2738723

"Why don't you ask hitlery"?

Why would I ask Hillary about Trump's insecure, unauthorized possession of classified documents? The one has nothing to do with the other, besides pointing out Trump's hypocrisy. Trump is a liar, a cheat and a thief.



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Msg ID: 2738764 Ah, come one man!!! lol Hitlery is the cleaning master. You kwow that +2/-2     
Author:observer II
8/12/2022 2:09:01 PM

Reply to: 2738744

Hitlery at her best

What???? What do you mean I cleaned my hard drives??? How do I do that???? With clorox???? hahaha



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Msg ID: 2738767 Ah, come one man!!! lol Hitlery is the cleaning master. You kwow that +3/-0     
Author:TheCrow
8/12/2022 2:24:31 PM

Reply to: 2738764

Hitlery at her best

What???? What do you mean I cleaned my hard drives??? How do I do that???? With clorox???? hahaha

I didn't know The Donald and Hillary hung out, swapped ideas?



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