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Msg ID: 2738725 Observer +5/-3     
Author:RT Carlson
8/12/2022 7:24:34 AM

You are witnessing the complete downfall of Trump. How many people on this forum have thrown you a life-line for years now trying to explain that Trump is not what you think he is/was. 

People pleaded with you. They tried to help you understand you are being conned.

Now, we were all right. You are seeing a former president go down in flames. 

We warned you. You ignored us. Now, deal with the repercussions.

It was against this backdrop that observers from the left and the right encouraged Team Trump to simply make the voluntary disclosure, bringing key facts into the light.

All of which led to, “No, we’re not releasing a copy of the warrant.”

It’s the sort of thing that should, at least in theory, give Republicans scrambling to defend the former president pause.



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Msg ID: 2738733 Bladeslap  +4/-4     
Author:Old Guy
8/12/2022 9:24:53 AM

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Msg ID: 2738761 Well said Old Guy +3/-4     
Author:observer II
8/12/2022 2:04:36 PM

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I love it when the budha tells us he's not posting here anymore.

Then comes right back as another name. 

He's so predictable



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Msg ID: 2738745 People at the zoo don't care about monkey morality, philosophy, as long as  +4/-2     
Author:TheCrow
8/12/2022 12:39:44 PM

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People at the zoo don't care about monkey morality, philosophy, as long as the feces being thrown doesn't hit them. Trump is a liar, a cheat and a thief and a failed president. He inherited an economy on the longest expansion in history band screwed that pooch so severely that America suffered the sharpest economic contraction since the Great Depression, record unemployment and an epidemic that killed more than a million.

“We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. We have it under control. It’s going to be just fine!”

Remember, he has never been bankrupt, only his businesses. Which are all 100% Trump controlled- a distinction without a difference.



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Msg ID: 2738748 Observer +4/-3     
Author:Shooting Shark
8/12/2022 12:54:45 PM

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I thought you said you were "done here" Buddha

like a typical Lib you musta meant you're done posting as "Bladeslap"

we know your other monikers.. and besides

you couldn't fill a small room with actual Biden supporters .

Except you and Jetagged. When you feel outnumbered you resort to aliases

Silly Libz 

you never can grasp the fact you're being played 

talk to us when Trump is indicted.. until then youre just getting worked up over nuthin.

PS 86,000 armed IRS agents? 
who do you think theyll be coming for? Amazon? United Airlines? 
nope

the regime's political opponents

AND

small business 

independent contractors 

the entire US middle class. 


The left is doomed in November

if not, the country is doomed.

Trump is an idea, no longer a person

75 percent of Republicans support him (CPAC poll)

You Libz are by outta step with the man on the street

and outta step with ReALiTy!!


Useful Idiots!!!

 



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Msg ID: 2738751 Pooty-link the CPAC poll that 75 percent of Republicans support him (CPAC) +3/-0     
Author:TheCrow
8/12/2022 1:34:45 PM

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Pooty-link the CPAC poll that 75 percent of Republicans support him (CPAC)

I've seen 69% and slipping. That's strong support within the party, but it's the party of, at best, 3 outof 10 Americans. Trump identified as a "Republican" as a strategic move: he knew that at that time there were eleventy-eight candidates for the nomination; one organized campaign could beat them all; much easier than beating one or two who had Republican bona fides. Before 2015, Trump:

In a 2004 interview, Trump told CNN's Wolf Blitzer: "In many cases, I probably identify more as Democrat", explaining: "It just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans. Now, it shouldn't be that way. But if you go back, I mean it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats...But certainly we had some very good economies under Democrats, as well as Republicans. But we've had some pretty bad disaster under the Republicans." In a July 2015 interview, Trump said that he has a broad range of political positions and that "I identify with some things as a Democrat."

There is no such thing as bad publicity in any hucksters opinion. Once people know your name you can shape their opinion. Basic salesman skills and Trump may not be an adminstrator, executive, but he is a salesman.

If your name is not at the top of the voters mind, then you're losing:

Four signs Trump’s influence in the GOP is waning

Donald Trump
FILE – Former President Donald Trump speaks at a rally at the Delaware County Fairgrounds, April 23, 2022, in Delaware, Ohio. With Trump focused on solidifying his reputation as a GOP kingmaker ahead of another potential presidential run, some allies say the Ohio victory could encourage him to step up his involvement in other bitter primary fights from Arizona to Missouri. (AP Photo/Joe Maiorana, File)

There are several indications that former President Trump’s grip on the Republican Party, while still strong, is beginning to wane — and that’s a good thing.

Typically, when U.S. presidents leave office, they voluntarily step out of the limelight — at least for a while. That precedent was first set by George Washington when he left the presidency, and it’s hard to overstate the importance of his example. It said the office of the president was bigger than the man, and it gave his successor the time and space to set his own stamp on the office.

And importantly, it indicated to others who aspired to hold the office, or change the direction the country was headed in, that they would have their chance.

Most former presidents have followed Washington’s example, which has led to one of the most stable democratic governmental systems in history. But not Trump.

He has continued to exercise as much control over the GOP as he can. But time and events are beginning to erode that control. How can we tell?

Several Trump allies and associates are challenging the “stolen election” narrative. Many of us in the conservative movement never believed the “election was stolen” mantra, even though there were clearly irregularities in some states, especially Pennsylvania. And we learned fairly soon after the election that then-Attorney General Bill Barr rejected the stolen-election assertion, as did White House communications director Alyssa Farah.

While the ongoing Jan. 6 hearings in Washington have a number of legitimacy problems (for example, the committee includes Democrats who led Trump impeachment efforts and some who challenged Trump’s election certification in 2016), they have highlighted several Trump loyalists who we now know also rejected the stolen-election narrative. That list includes the president’s daughter Ivanka, campaign manager Bill Stepien, campaign lawyer Alex Cannon, data expert Matt Oczkowski and Trump confidant Kellyanne Conway.

It is hard to imagine that they, or many others in the Trump inner circle, would have felt comfortable publicly expressing their doubts about the stolen-election narrative in the months right after the election. But a year and a half later, that’s apparently changed.

GOP presidential hopefuls are demonstrating some independence. There are several well-qualified Republicans who share most of Trump’s policy positions but are younger and not as alienating as the former president: Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem and, of course, former Vice President Mike Pence, just to name a few.

Several of the potential presidential candidates are beginning to demonstrate a little independence by endorsing their own favorite Republican candidates rather than the Trump-backed ones, at times ignoring his advice, and by highlighting some differences in their policies. And it’s likely we will see even more light between Trump and the GOP presidential aspirants in the coming months.

Several Trump-endorsed candidates lost their primary bids. One of the big indications of Trump’s waning influence is that Republican voters have declined to vote for several Trump-backed primary candidates.

News outlets have been hyper-focused on these campaigns, looking at various candidates’ efforts to secure the Trump endorsement, and then highlighting which Trump-endorsed candidates won or lost.

Last year the thinking seemed to be that having the Trump stamp of approval was almost a necessity to win a Republican primary. The fact that several Republican candidates – including some who were heavily criticized by Trump – have prevailed in their primaries over the Trump-endorsed candidates indicates the endorsement, while likely still an important plus, does not guarantee anything.

Senate Republicans ignored Trump’s effort to oust Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell. Trump would like to see Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) replaced with a more Trump-friendly Senate Republican leader. And some months ago, he pushed that effort. Apparently, not one Republican senator went along with the scheme. While Senate Republicans may occasionally grumble about what McConnell is or is not doing, they know he’s been a very effective leader.

As president, Donald Trump implemented several very good policies, and the country and the economy prospered as a result. But his tweets and comments also alienated many voters and voting blocks, which cost him the election.

Most former presidents followed the Washington example and stepped into the shadows for a while so the country could move on. Trump didn’t. As time moves on, he will eventually lose his grip on the GOP, and it’s already beginning to happen.

Merrill Matthews is a resident scholar with the Institute for Policy Innovation in Dallas, Texas. Follow him on Twitter @MerrillMatthews.



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Msg ID: 2738762 Booyah, the budha has been schooled yet once again. LMAO (NT) +2/-3     
Author:observer II
8/12/2022 2:06:21 PM

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Msg ID: 2738769 You mean "Buddha", right? (NT) +3/-0     
Author:TheCrow
8/12/2022 2:50:51 PM

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Msg ID: 2738846 Buddha.....Budha....whatever it takes, lol (NT) +1/-2     
Author:observer II
8/13/2022 7:56:28 AM

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Msg ID: 2738759 I would say you are confused budha +5/-4     
Author:observer II
8/12/2022 2:00:58 PM

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Here's the thing Mr Avatar.

You libs continue to obssess over Trump claiming we are all about Trump.

I'm here to tell you we are not all about Trump.

You can hate on Trump all you want, it's obvious you have a great deal of hatred towards the man. 

You can hate until it destroys you but the bottom line is Trump's policies ALL worked. Everything he did and created was for the benefir of this country. The data proves this as fact.

You voted for an embecile that has destroyed this country. He was handed one of the greatest ecomonies we have seen in our lifetime. Wages were increasing, the market was booming, and the cost of living was affordable, along with the lowest unemplotment rate in history.

All the scandals against Trump were ALL fabricated by the liberal democrats. All unfounded but fairly effective as many Americans have that poision pill engrained in their minds.

Every accusation has been proven false. Yet at no time have we heard an apology or a retraction. And that shows Americans that the dems have no integrity or a moral compass.

There isn't an American that is happy with paying over $450 more per month because of the inflation this idiot has caused.

So you can tell me that you libs have been trying to set me straight about Trump all this time. But the reality is that you think I'm the problem because I simply don't take your lies as truth. Sheep follow, I'm not a sheep.



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Msg ID: 2738770 Trump was perfect, a quality of a god. Some TrumpeRINO frog boys worship  +4/-1     
Author:TheCrow
8/12/2022 3:15:15 PM

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Trump was perfect, a quality of a god. Some TrumpeRINO frog boys worship him as such.

You can hate until it destroys you but the bottom line is Trump's policies ALL worked. Everything he did and created was for the benefir of this country. The data proves this as fact.

Trummpp had a pretty good run until 2020. Then he killed hundreds of thousands of Americans resulting in the highest unemployment rate ever and the sharpest economic contraction since the Great Depression. But: 

“We have it totally under control,” Trump told “Squawk Box” co-host Joe Kernen in an interview from the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. “It’s one person coming in from China. We have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”

Is that an example of Trump's 'control' of the situation or of his political cynicism- he admitted refusing to inform America because he didn't want a panic in an election year. The best you can say is that he made an expensive mistake. Judgement or inability, he's not going to be reelected. His influence may be important to Republicans, but never to conservatives.



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Msg ID: 2738790 Trump was perfect, a quality of a god. Some TrumpeRINO frog boys worship  +4/-0     
Author:TheCrow
8/12/2022 5:14:45 PM

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Msg ID: 2738847 I honestly do not know who you are talking about crofraud +2/-3     
Author:observer II
8/13/2022 8:04:32 AM

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Because I know of no one that idolizes Trump in any way.

Most people I know look at his accomplishments and the fact that he's the only POTUS that actually did what he said he would do.

The morons you vote for talk the talk but fall down every time they try to walk.

Democratic policies NEVER bring people up. They ONLY bring people down.

This is fact my friend. Just look at what they have been doing.

Obozo's fair share...............what do you think that was about

Biden's 87,000 IRS new hires.................what do you think that is about

Open those eyes of yours. It's actually quite simple to see. You only have to want to see it.

And please enlighten us on how Trump killed thousands of people. I hope you're not referring to that covid scam.Because creepy joe killed far more people during covid. And that idiot had the shot the whole time. But only because Trump fast tracked it.

Which wa sa waste of time anyway because it was only 2% effective. The shot has killed more people then you can imagine. You can jump down off that podium you love so much



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Msg ID: 2739040 I honestly do not know who you are talking about crofraud +3/-0     
Author:TheCrow
8/14/2022 4:45:16 PM

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Most people I know look at his accomplishments and the fact that he's the only POTUS that actually did what he said he would do.

Yeah. Sure. In his own words, on January 22, 2020:

“We have it totally under control,” Trump told “Squawk Box” co-host Joe Kernen in an interview from the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. “It’s one person coming in from China. We have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”

Meant that he was going to ignore as long as possible the oncoming novel coronavirus epidemic because it would make him look bad!!! public health agencies warned him but it was an election year:

a million+ dead Americans;

the highest unemployment rate;

the sharpest american economic contraction since the Great Depression.

But that don't count, because...?

 

I will admit that his first 3 years were not bad. Not great, but for a presidential rookie...

1,000,000 dead Americans.

Highest unemployment rate ever.

Sharpest economic contraction since the Great Depresssion.

Come on, get real- pick any one of those 'accomplishments' and brag it up.



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Msg ID: 2738800 Really Perry? But you're in a Cult, that's as sheep as you can get.. (NT) +4/-0     
Author:Jett
8/12/2022 6:46:56 PM

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Msg ID: 2738842 Right back atcha jettsheep. And that dress makes you look fat :) (NT) +2/-3     
Author:observer II
8/13/2022 7:43:32 AM

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