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Msg ID: 2740617 Just for you, Disgusting RINO!  +3/-3     
Author:Shooting Shark
8/29/2022 8:14:34 AM

The Anti-Anti-Trump Theory of Liz Cheney's Loss

Playing make-believe in order to avoid hard choices.



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Msg ID: 2740750 Liz decided not to join the cult +3/-1     
Author:bladeslap
8/30/2022 12:10:13 PM

Reply to: 2740617

Too bad you're in the cult.

Liz, and many brave republicans, decided not to join the mob-boss cult.

Flipper, your world is goign to come crashing down soon. Watch.

 



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Msg ID: 2740835 Liz decided not to join the cult +4/-2     
Author:Shooting Shark
8/30/2022 9:08:47 PM

Reply to: 2740750

I'm waiting Buddha.. 

But my world doesnt revolve around Trump,

like yours does apparently. 

 

As for Crowbot and Liz

Liz Cheney is a neoconservative.

the first time I heard the word "Neoconservative" I thought it was just a Lib slur.

But I was WRONG. That was back in the day when Alester Crowleys biological offspring

George W Bush,

Was getting ready to invade Iraq the second time 

And at that time, I was myself "on the pointy edge of the spear"

Naive, I was, back then. " Pax Americana " Wrong again. 

I won't go into all te reasons I've come to realize these wars were wet dreams for the military industrial complex

But it gets personal when people on all sides "die for the cause"

let's just say- "WTF?"  Mission accomplished? 

Back when someone on the Left 

who was better educated than I was at the time used the word "Neoconservative"

I decided to educate myself. In my internet search of the term I quickly discovered 

one of the foremost experts on Neocons:

Dr Shadia Drury, professor Emeritus of Philosophy at the University of Regina, Canada. 

I read her stuff. I wrote to her. She wrote back.
Nice high level philosophic exchanges, I learned a lot.

The plot thickened. My Dad has degrees from Boston University, has taught theology there 

Catholic Seminary ( Andover Newton) Got his Doctorate there , BTW.

It turns out Shadia HATES the liberal Catholic Jesuits from BU

and they in turn, represent a schism in Traditional Catholicism 

( not sure where your uncle the Priest fell into this, doctrinally speaking, but I digress)

 

The irony was

The Catholic Church has been political for twenty centuries now and counting,

but the rise of "Modern Atheism" - based on false evolutionary premises

has philosophy created a internal schism and hypocrisy within the Catholic church.

.Jesuit scholars retaining the theological trappings of Christianity.. but denying the actual existence of God? 

This idea has led some Jesuits to become radical marxists--"Liberation Theology" the kind embraced by Obama"'s radical mentor "rev" ('god -damn America') Wright.

These  Radical Marxist  Jesuits were censored  in Academia and around the world by the last great Christian Pope., John Paul II. ( who I admire greatly, single handedly contributed to the fall of the Soviet Union, but I digress again) 

The Irony is-- Shadia is an atheist herself. More precisely, a member of the International Secular Humanist movement. And she had good reasons to dispise the Neocons.

Her thesis revolves around the philosopher Leo Strauss

Strauss was an atheist, a secular German Jew who came to America as the NAZIs came to power in Germany.

He taught at the University of Chicago, a hotbed of secular political theory. 
His thesis is an expansion of the ideas of political power, and who is worthy to wield such power.

He taught something called "the noble lie" -- where it's important he felt to play up to the superstitions and beliefs of the masses ( theology, nationalism, cultural biases etc) but the ruler must must rise above the fray 

and LIE if necessary to achieve larger "noble" political ends. 
Strauss admired Nietzsches conceptions of the "will to power" and  the "ubermench" embodied in the character

of a "fit" political leader..

contrary to Nietzsche and the "postmodernist existentialism" that followed for the masses on the Left 

Strauss imagined a revamped Hlobal leadership following Plato's ideas of "Philosopher kings"

and a well ordered society in which everyone knew their place

and old soldiers ( like me) could salute the flag 

and buy into the latest "Noble Lie" 

while burying and "honoring" their dead.

 

Dick Cheney was GWs advisor -- he was surrounded by Neocons 

HW Bush was no different " The new world order" he imagined

and the Democrats has long since played global footsie

with the "noble lies" they're still tellling you today.

What pissed of the Right Wing Neocons was the threat" Trumpism"

actually represented - the great unwashed, upsetting the Apple cart?

Democracy-? America is just a grid square on the global playing field afterall.! 
how dare this guy screw up our control of this country-- and call our "Noble Lies"

__Damn Lies!!__

Well today, Liz Cheney is the editor of that Neocon  Rag "Bulwark" Crowbot likes to

cut and paste from 

And by all accounts, The "Damn Lie" is up and running.

And believed by you mindless tools who read "box" and watch MSM Newz. 

Bought and paid for by those who have mastered the mind control that enslaved people like you Buddha

While they laugh at the rest of us.. They are "Philosopher Kings" in their own minds at least. 

For the first time in a long time 

"Trumpism" is s genuine response to the crypto tyrants we have come to see 

and reject. 

Poor Shadia. As a secular Humanist she hopes for a bettercworld, just like the of us

but as an atheist , she has written extensively against Christianity 

with the Hypocritical lying Jesuits as her chief example of "villany"

And I suppose she makes a good point. If there is no God, then it's a Hobbsean "war of all against all"

no matter how you slice and dice it, or what you call yourself 

I can agree with her." lies are bad. " as did Jesus, Satan is a liar, and was murderer from the beginning."

My own point is you can't redeem Secular humanism without a genuine theological belief.

Nor can you redeem the Radical Jesuits.

Nor can you redeem American Politics.

And the pain we now experience, is caused by the most ancient of human evils. 

"Even as we sleep, Pain falls on the heart,  drop upon drop, until slowly emerges the wisdom of God."

--Aeschylus

 

 

 

 

 



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