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Msg ID: 2742269 From FOX News - DOJ Closing in on Trump +3/-1     
Author:bladeslap
9/13/2022 11:47:51 AM

DOJ issues more than 30 subpoenas to Trump associates: source

The DOJ also seized the phones belonging to two top Trump advisers

DOJ issues more than 30 subpoenas to Trump associates: source | Fox News

The Department of Justice has issued a flurry of over 30 subpoenas to aides of former President Donald Trump, a source familiar with the federal investigation confirmed to Fox News. 

The Justice Department also seized phones from two top Trump advisers in the investigation, which aims to probe Trump's unsubstantiated claims of a rigged 2020 presidential election.

The dozens of new subpoenas mark a rapid escalation in pressure applied to the Trump camp by the DOJ.

 

TRUMP LAWYERS OPPOSE DOJ REQUEST TO CONTINUE TO USE CLASSIFIED DOCS SEIZED BY FBI DURING INVESTIGATION

The Justice Department is investigating allegations of phony Electoral College certifications from 2020 that declared Republicans were the electors voting for Trump and Mike Pence when in fact Democrats had won and voted for President Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris.

Timothy Parlatore, an attorney for Trump confidant and former New York Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik, confirmed that Kerik received a subpoena last Tuesday to appear before a federal grand jury in Washington, D.C., on Friday, Sept. 23.

The Department of Justice declined to comment.

Multiple reports have pointed to allegedly fake documents obtained by watchdog group American Oversight, which included paperwork from slates of Republican would-be electors in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Nevada, Georgia, New Mexico and Arizona.

DOJ officials are waging a two-front war with ongoing investigations into both Trump's claims of a rigged election and the recent raid on Mar-a-lago that discovered a wealth of classified documents retained in his possession after leaving office.

Trump’s legal team opposed the Justice Department’s motion to continue its review of classified documents seized by the FBI during its raid of Mar-a-Lago last month, slamming the entire investigation as "unprecedented and misguided," and one that has "spiraled out of control," while stressing that the government has not yet proven that the records "remain classified."

In a filing Monday morning, Trump’s legal team said the Justice Department is seeking to "limit the scope of any review of its investigative conduct and presuppose the outcome, at least in regard to what it deems are ‘classified records.’"

 

 


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Msg ID: 2742271 Give it a rest +2/-3     
Author:Old Guy
9/13/2022 12:14:23 PM

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Endless investigations continue despite 7 years of NO charges.



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Msg ID: 2742281 You are a victim of your own cognitive distortions +3/-1     
Author:bladeslap
9/13/2022 2:16:08 PM

Reply to: 2742271

"It rained last tuesday, so that means it will rain every tuesday" - Every situation is different - 

Overgeneralization

When people overgeneralize, they reach a conclusion about one event and then incorrectly apply that conclusion across the board.

For example, you make a low score on one math test and conclude that you’re hopeless at math in general. You have a negative experience in one relationship and develop a belief that you just aren’t good at relationships at all.

Overgeneralization has been associatedTrusted Source with post-traumatic stress disorder and other anxiety disorders.



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Msg ID: 2742283 "Give it a rest" You know that Trump is a mobster wannabe, right? +3/-1     
Author:TheCrow
9/13/2022 2:26:25 PM

Reply to: 2742271

 

More than a little similarity between 'Omar' and Trump except Omar had principles and the Donald does not.

 

 

HOW WOULD DONALD TRUMP FARE IN A JURY TRIAL? WHY AN INDICTMENT AGAINST THE FORMER PRESIDENT IS MORE THAN LIKELY

How would Donald Trump fare in a jury trial? Why an indictment against the former president is more than likely

 

The House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol has shed light on the alleged egregious, and at-times unbelievable, actions of former President Donald Trump.

Those first-hand accounts from witnesses close to him at the time detail a range of potential crimes committed by Trump, from inciting a violent insurrection that resulted in deaths—and refusing to act to stop the attack—to his efforts to overturn the 2020 election. 

Many legal experts, including those at Northeastern, say there’s enough evidence to charge the former president with crimes, including seditious conspiracy and pressuring public officials to undermine the election results.

“It is clear that there is enough evidence to indict and convict the former president of conspiracy to defraud the United States, illegally interfere with the electoral count and even sedition,” says Michael Meltsner, the George J. and Kathleen Waters Matthews Distinguished Professor of Law at Northeastern and author of the civil rights-era novel Mosaic: Who Paid for the Bullet?”

“Whether such charges would lead to a conviction would, of course, be up to the trial jury,” he says.

Michael Meltsner, the George J. and Kathleen Waters Matthews Distinguished Professor of Law at Northeastern. Photo by Matthew Modoono/Northeastern University

But Meltsner says he also believes the evidence shows that Trump acted with “criminal intent,” a thorny legal concept that experts suggest would present prosecutors with trouble were a case to move forward against the former president. In particular, experts question whether Trump knew—and therefore believed—that he had lost the 2020 election to Joe Biden, establishing that he acted with “guilty mind.” Such efforts range, according to witness testimony and numerous reporting, from pressurring Georgia election officials to come up with enough votes to reverse the state’s election results, to overseeing a scheme to install fake electors in specific states Trump lost.Meltsner says claims that prosecutors would have difficulty establishing criminal intent, based on the sheer evidence of numerous other crimes, are unpersuasive.

“A [person’s] conduct, as well as inaction, under the particular circumstances demonstrates intent; some picture of an inner mental state has never been required,” he says.

Despite apparently widespread agreement that the Department of Justice has a clear-cut case against Trump, many observers worry that if Attorney General Merrick Garland were to pursue prosecution, the move would be seen as political. The House select committee itself, which is composed of seven House Democrats and two Republicans, has no prosecutorial power—but the body can make a criminal referral to the DOJ.

Costas Panagopoulos, head of Northeastern’s political science department and editor of American Politics Research. Photo by Matthew Modoono/Northeastern University

Even the criminal referral itself carries concerns of politicization at a time of heightened political polarization and increased distrust of government institutions. But Meltsner says the DOJ couldn’t possibly separate out the political ramifications from its own decision to pursue charges. At the same time, some experts anticipate there could be public backlash if the Justice Department doesn’t pursue charges amid the overwhelming evidence of wrongdoing. 

“The political implications of charging Trump are not supposed to weigh on the DOJ decisional process, but experience teaches that, even if denied, such calculations are often present when public figures are involved,” Meltsner says. 

Justice Department officials should act regardless of what the public thinks, says Costas Panagopoulos, head of Northeastern’s political science department and editor of “American Politics Research,” because trust in the country’s institutions is at stake. 

“Certainly, part of the calculus is partisan and political,” Panagopoulos says. “But at the same time the Department of Justice has to do its job, and if segments of the public perceive that as partisan and political, then so be it. If the [DOJ] doesn’t take a stand to protect the electoral process and democracy in America, what is its purpose?”

“They have to send a strong signal, and the hearings that have been going on could conceivably provide the public with enough factual evidence that would justify a criminal indictment of Trump, thereby helping to solidify the perception that it is not purely a political move,” Panagopoulos says.



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Msg ID: 2742284 "Give it a rest" ever heard of Al Capone? Why? Convicted of tax violations. +3/-1     
Author:TheCrow
9/13/2022 2:27:55 PM

Reply to: 2742271

Use what you can against powerful criminals....



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