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Msg ID: 2742444 Making a point about the economy and the news. (NT) +1/-1     
Author:Old Guy
9/15/2022 1:29:13 PM


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Msg ID: 2742447 Making a point about the economy and the news. +3/-1     
Author:TheCrow
9/15/2022 1:57:10 PM

Reply to: 2742444

No worries- we're due a recession during the Biden administration.

And, perhaps Trump will lose his control of the Republican Party so they can find a competent candidate instead of runnning the Thug Trump.

A million dead AMERICANS, record unemployment rate and the sharpest economic contraction since the Great Depression. Trump's keeping his name in the news with the Mar a Lago file thing. The cliche is that "There's no such thing as bad publicity" right?



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Msg ID: 2742454 Making a point about the economy and the news. +2/-2     
Author:Old Guy
9/15/2022 2:23:39 PM

Reply to: 2742444

With a free press, that is allowed to lie, it is possible to take the worst things that happen and report it as good and awesome.  Fake stories or bloviateing has become common place, in the news.  Think about this:

Obama took over the office at the end of the subprime loan crisis, the crisis was technically over.  All he had to do was direct the recovery of the economy.  He did, and by the numbers he directed THE WORST RECOVERY EVER.  But the main stream media wrote how great he was doing, he wasn't, but hey wrote it anyway.  Now as the years move on, people still think he did good, (he didn't).

In the US, with a free press you can find stories that support every point of view.  It takes just a little common sense to figure some of it out.  Today our economy is in a inflationary recession and this could have been avoided.  Biden has made the wrong move in everything he has done, and you were told this even by Obama and voted for him anyway.  And you can find articles that make the point, he's great, trying to prove he is not the worst President ever!  Think about this:

Common sense would tell you that you cannot shut down the source of energy without having a replacement to take over.  Would you shut of the gas to your home before you had a new source in place.  Well Biden has tried to shut off the energy to a complete country.  Before he took over we had a surplus, we even sold it to other countries. But not now, our economy is in a inflationary recession,  but you can still find articles that support this stupid policy.

I can think of issue after issue that the left has screwed up and still find some news sources that support it, even if they have to lie.  If you think the left is so great take a look at the difference of red states to blue states.  in Idaho we can't build houses fast enough for people wanting to move out of a blue state.  That tells you much more about what is happening than any news stories about how great the left is.

 

 

 



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Msg ID: 2742466 A million dead Americans. Record unemployment. The sharpes economic contrac +3/-1     
Author:TheCrow
9/15/2022 3:33:55 PM

Reply to: 2742454

A million dead Americans. Record unemployment. The sharpest economic contraction since the Great Depression.  Because he didn't want to panic Americans in an election year. So as not to hamper his reelection campaign.

More Americans have died of Covid than all combat fatalities in American history. 400,000 before in Trump's final year. The sub-prime mortgage crisis had peaked, December 2008- before Obama's inaugaration.



Trump's White House ignored advice on COVID-19 that could've saved over 130,000 lives, Birx said

 
 
Robert Redfield, Debra Birx, and Donald Trump
Then-President Donald Trump speaks with Dr. Deborah Birx, Dr. Robert Redfield, and members of the White House coronavirus task force during a COVID-19 briefing on April 22, 2020. Photo by Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post via Getty Images
  • Trump's COVID-19 response led to many preventable deaths, Deborah Birx told House lawmakers. 
  • Over 130,000 lives could've been saved if Trump's White House followed the science, she said. 
  • Birx also testified that the 2020 election distracted Trump from the pandemic. 

Dr. Deborah Birx, the former White House COVID-19 response coordinator, in testimony to the House select subcommittee on the coronavirus crisis said that former President Donald Trump's approach to the pandemic led to a massive number of preventable deaths. 

"No," Birx said when asked if Trump did everything in his power to curb the spread and save lives, per excerpts of her testimony released by the committee on Tuesday.

"And I've said that to the White House in general, and I believe I was very clear to the president in specifics of what I needed him to do," she added.

Birx, who testified before the committee in mid-October, said that over 130,000 lives could've been saved in the early stages of the pandemic had Trump's White House adhered to the science and pushed for measures advocated by experts. 

"I believe if we had fully implemented the mask mandates, the reduction in indoor dining, the getting friends and family to understand the risk of gathering in private homes, and we had increased testing, that we probably could have decreased fatalities into the 30% less to 40% less range," Birx said. 

She also suggested that the 2020 election distracted Trump and took attention away from the nation's pandemic response. 

"The governors and mayors and others that were campaigning, as well as the White House that was campaigning, just took people's time away from and distracted them away from the pandemic in my personal opinion," Birx said. "They were actively campaigning and not as present in the White House as previously." 

Trump did not immediately respond to a request for comment from Insider.

From the earliest days of the pandemic, Trump downplayed the threat of COVID-19 and repeatedly spread misinformation on the virus. He routinely pushed against public health recommendations, including wearing a mask or face covering. Trump during an interview with veteran journalist Bob Woodward admitted that he deliberately sought to downplay the dangers of the virus in an effort to avoid inducing "panic."

Top public health experts have excoriated Trump over his pandemic response, saying that his approach led to tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths.

By the time Trump left office, there had been over 400,000 reported COVID-19 deaths in the US.

 


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Msg ID: 2742471 Really +2/-2     
Author:Old Guy
9/15/2022 4:04:37 PM

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Like I said the free press does not need to tell the truth.  The can produce fake news or twist and turn any story to suit there story.

This is just a story like a Monday morning quarterback would tell about the football game.  None of it true, all of it just a madeup story!



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Msg ID: 2742473 How about the CDC?  +3/-1     
Author:TheCrow
9/15/2022 4:26:26 PM

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Total Cases 95,228,289

Total Deaths 1,046,195

Current Hospitalizations 27,467

Total First Booster Dose 108,953,688

 

Oh, wait- they're part of the government monolith that is controlled by cannabalistic Jewish pedophiles. 

 

My home county has had 511 deaths out of 73,000 residents. That's a lower rate than nationally but we're not very densely populated. And vaccinations are running 67% in the whole population, 85% for 50-64 and 95% for us old farts.



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Msg ID: 2742483 We’re did you find that? +1/-2     
Author:Old Guy
9/15/2022 5:16:59 PM

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New Jersey was 11,545 per 100,000

New York was  11,406 per 100,00

 



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Msg ID: 2742501 We’re did you find that? +3/-0     
Author:TheCrow
9/15/2022 9:20:30 PM

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The first line is a link "Daily Update for the United States" at tge CDC website.



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Msg ID: 2742502 Really +3/-0     
Author:TheCrow
9/15/2022 9:27:00 PM

Reply to: 2742471

Like I said the free press does not need to tell the truth.  The can produce fake news or twist and turn any story to suit there story..

That's a fact, Jack. But a rational person is skeptical, looks for evidence and/or reporting that supports or contradicts a source.

 



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Msg ID: 2742507 Really?? +3/-0     
Author:bladeslap
9/15/2022 10:30:03 PM

Reply to: 2742471

"The free press does not tell teh truth?"

I think you mean to say "The truth is not what you want to hear"

When Birx says that 130,000 people could have been saved, I believe that over your opinion, Trump's opinion

It's inconvenient for you to believe that Trump actually is responsible for those many deaths

New Book just out that Milania even was pressuring Trump to take covid more seriously -




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