The discussion on JH about Covid Shot related adverse reactions was informative. The poster said he had a adverse reaction to the second booster shot, lost consciousness due to a low blood pressure event. Had no prehistory of heart problems. 

The FAA, he said, has no protocols for clearing him- recognizing as they do the fact that this experimental MRNA  vaccine has side effects that can be permanent. So he's permanently lodged in FAA medical hell, no medical for him, and so no job. 

What was typical in that discussion ( and also on here, Buddha's  comments) was the DENIAL and outright dismissal of this guys comments. He had to br a Troll" -- He must have been "LYING"-- " the vaccine is safe and effective" the mantra was repeated again and again, as you Lib brainwashed lemmings repeated the official position of the pharmaceutical influenced medical boards.

Then in typical Lib fashion, you tools have the temerity to call dissenting Doctors and medical scientists who say otherwise ( at great professional an personal peril) "Science Deniers".., it's galling to a responsible person who sees these events everyday.

Why are Libs locked into this false narritive? It's simple really. They are minority collectivists, politically speaking. They want government to define "truth" however much that truth may in fact differ from reality. They accept proven falsehoods hook line and sinker to protect their unique minority special interests which derive from government force against the majority. 

And so mask wearing, Covid shot mandating, media disinformation and outright lies must be employed to protect their "truth"-- When someone that the JH poster conflicts with their agenda, they must be silenced and denied.

California Gov Newsome is busy revoking medical licenses for Doctors who don't conform to the party line. Fauci made a personal fortune hyping this crap to timid old women, woke children, and minority special interest groups--who fear their "rights" may be threatened if the inconvenient truth was ever realized.

November Mid terms- This all changes, hopefully. 

Let the investigations snd prosecutions BEGIN! 

That said, I have my doubts that the truth will prevail. 
Let's face it, this is about Global Billionares who's

expansionist plans were temporally thwarted when Hilly got thrown under the bus.

Actual "democracy" elected Trump. Actual working middle class voters had their say,

So the "Empire Struck Back"

An on the side of the Truth, it appears individuals don't matter.

Not parents, school boards matter!

Not small Business, printing 4 trillion and causing inflation matters!

Not some poor schmuck helicopter pilot with a permanently damaged cardio vascular system matters, the NARRITIVE matters!

Yeah, and a corrupted, compromised, demented old fool who destroys US oil production and defunds police and supports abortion and promotes massive illegal immigration was FRAUDULENTLY installed to show the poor and voting / working middle casses "who Boss"-- The Money and Global Elite Matter! 

Go back to your silly Trump bashing now.

Useful Idiots! 

Was the issue caused by the vaccination or is coincidental to it? Was it an allergic reaction based on the medium of the vaccine? Egg allergies, for instance. Perhaps a sudden, novel allergic reaction- which can and does sometimes afflict people without previous or subsequent events.

One event is one event without supporting identifiably similar issues, one event can be anything.

I understand that the patient drank black coffee before the illness occurred. Did that cause the suffering? Caffeine does affect metabolism. 

There are science deniers in the scientific community. I know that confuses the feck outta TrumpeRINO frog boys, but scientists can have sound disagreements with conclusions drawn from the same evidence, sometimes even bringing prejudices into the process of evaluating facts.

Except your Trumpist attack on the 2020 election. Flawed as that election may be, there is nowhere near sufficient evidence to suspect corruption of that process. That's Donald J Trump wishing the election results away so that he can't be tagged a loser. He lost and will lose the next time he campaigns- 2016 46.1% of the popular ballot and 2020 46.9%. 

The rest of your QAnon screed is exactly that. Deluded, paranoid anti-Semitic homophobic bigoted ranting. 
Be careful what you wish for- America is one presidency away from becoming a banana republic with succeeding autocrats in power of votes that come out of the barrel of a gun. 

Trump, y'all don't know when to quit 'winners'- Trump's 2016 victory was the product of 2016. It ain't 2016 anymore no matter how determined you are to turn back the clock, erase 2020 and recreate 2016's problems. That is exactly why Trump, Trumpism is not conservative. Trump, Trumpism is reactionary.

You're voting for Warnock.

Nuff said.

Disgusting RINO! 

You're voting for Warnock.

Nuff said.

Disgusting RINO! 

Okay, Lucy: 'Splain why Herschel Walker is a better choice. Besides the "R" after his name, Walker's affirmative action candidacy, endorsed by the Mar a Lago Madman, why is Herschel Walker a better choice than Raphael Warnock? 

Herschel has a history of mental illness. He claims that contributed or perhaps caused his history of domestic violence: Warnock has none of that; and a history of political activism.

The question comes down to:

Herschel Walker, an inexperienced candidate, whose reputation was made as big-arse footballer some decades ago; with a history of mental illness, violent behavior and, uh- a Trumpian confuision over facts. He's not a cop, in spite of flashing a cereal box badge.

Raphael Warnock, politically active for decades, especially in civil rights causes, established in the community who has Martin Luther King Jr.'s pulpit to speak from. 2 years experience as a Senator.

The (R) after Walker's name and Trump's endorsement are absolutely beside the point. Trump has no lasting moral or political convictions. He is purely transactional, opportunistic, which is why he contradicts himself. And why conservatism, Republicanism is floundering: what do they stand for, beyond Trump's profit and power?

The only people who allow affiliations to direct their actions are mindless, blind jingos. Exactly why  the Republican Party is in trouble now.

Well, you're changing the subject of my original thread ?

probably aware the Covid scam has run its course.

On to the next Lib gaslighting campaign!  Am I Right? 
( Disgusting RINO )

I didn't say you had to vote for Walker.

But Warnock is a pro-abortion,  divorced child-custody defendant --if you want some personal baggage 

And the good Reverend also teaches Black Liberation Theology --which is the unholy Leftist amalgam of Church and State. ( Radical Atheistic  Marxism draped in religious sheeps-clothing, but I digress. )

Meanwhile, I would anticipate a leftist comment regarding Walkers claim of Christian Conversion being both false and hypocritical, and he's supported by the evangelical southern right. "Separation of Church and State" a hypocritical claim from those who  support a Liberation Theologian!

 You leftists call Walker a mentally ill Uncle Tom, supported by the MAGA cult religious hypocrites.  

The personal claims made against Walker come mostly from his gay son Christian, while his police record is public record. His psych evaluation is yet another misuse of psychology- yet DID is very real, it can also be created in children by "Monarch Programming" ( Right, Buddha?) 

Sonny Christian's flamboyant videos spew and skewer his daddy Hershal and leftists everywhere. Hes seen as an aberation by woke Hollywood, your Lib public relations department.

They love the fact he's gay, but they hate the fact he isn't waving a rainbow flag and he espouses his so called conservative viewpoints. He's another Milo -- having led a "Gays for Trump" parade in LA recently. ((OMG! )) but it seems to me he's a false flag. Milo too. he's not a conservative, and neither are yo, Crowbot!

Christian had "Daddy" issues --he hates his absentee father, who now he says paid for an abortion for his mistress In 2009, a year after his book about his so called religious conversion.
Hershal denies that claim. The unnamed woman produced  evidence of the abortion which could have been fabricated. ( and we have seen the Left lies all the time ) "The Daily Beast " publishes Christians claims.

Daddy Hershel reputedly has multiple baby-mommas, and so Christian says he has a "family tree" that looks more like a bush. Early childhood trauma and absent fathers can indeed cause sexual and identity issues later in life in some people, as might be the case with poor Christian. Mental illness can be hereditary, as well. 

That said, if you really were a principled "conservative Republican" you probably wouldn't vote for either of them. But you say your voting for Warnock, and thats a vote for Biden.  

And that's a vote for the Fraudulent Manchurian Candidate,

and a vote for the further destruction of America.

--which is why you are far worse than simple a brainwashed "useful idiot"

you are a 

Disgusting RINO! 

Well, you're changing the subject of my original thread ?

Just following your lead in the conversation, Pooty Shart:

"You're voting for Warnock.

"Nuff said.

"Disgusting RINO!"

By asking you to illuminate your position:

Okay, Lucy: 'Splain why Herschel Walker is a better choice. Besides the "R" after his name, Walker's affirmative action candidacy, endorsed by the Mar a Lago Madman, why is Herschel Walker a better choice than Raphael Warnock? 

The response you posted is:

probably aware the Covid scam has run its course.

A million+ dead Americans and a constantly mutating virus. COVID-19 is with us forever, endemic, so one would have to be the firmest Luddite and science denier to posit that it had "run its course." Keep your vax and mask to hand, because you are moving further and further into the increased chance of mortality with every day you breathe.

On to the next Lib gaslighting campaign!  Am I Right? 
( Disgusting RINO )

You, Trump are RINOs. You support very, very limited conservative positions and promote reactionary positions that only benefit Trump- not America or Americans.

I didn't say you had to vote for Walker.

SO, you think I should vote for a third party candidate? Not that it matters, Herschel is gonna get spanked.

But Warnock is a pro-abortion,  divorced child-custody defendant --if you want some personal baggage 

I have never, ever taken a pro- or con abortion position. It follows that I have no position on politicians taking either position, except: those taking an unlimited abortion or complete ban on abortions.

You should really get behind the mike and do stand up- Herschel has encouraged abortions and paid for them as well, and is an absentee father while denouncing absentee fathers. Fact. Perhaps that is his dissociative personality disorder coming to the fore, again? 

And the good Reverend also teaches Black Liberation Theology --which is the unholy Leftist amalgam of Church and State. ( Radical Atheistic  Marxism draped in religious sheeps-clothing, but I digress. )

Warnock is a "Marxist" if he teaches anything in the Black Liberation Theology line? You wanna keep'em down on the plantation, doncha? That's a panicked desperate and broad Republican smear and mischaracterization of Christianity's similarity to socialism.

Meanwhile, I would anticipate a leftist comment regarding Walkers claim of Christian Conversion being both false and hypocritical, and he's supported by the evangelical southern right. "Separation of Church and State" a hypocritical claim from those who  support a Liberation Theologian!

Y'all oughtta really relax on what other people hold in faith. You have no freakin' idea what God tells other people. Yeah, that's the Quaker in me talkin'. And that's you piling brush around the stake you intend to burn heretics at.

You leftists call Walker a mentally ill Uncle Tom, supported by the MAGA cult religious hypocrites.  

Never called Herschel an "Uncle Tom". 

Herschel himself admitted the mental illness. What is contentious is the fact that one is never ever 'cured' of disassociate personality disorder.

MAGA, at least in the QAnon believing January 6 types, is identical to cultism.

The personal claims made against Walker come mostly from his gay son Christian, while his police record is public record. His psych evaluation is yet another misuse of psychology- yet DID is very real, it can also be created in children by "Monarch Programming" ( Right, Buddha?) 

Who better to expose what Herschel didn't want know than a concerned citizen with intimate knowledge as a family member? 

I freakin' love your slur "his gay son"!  A bigot will expose himself, directly or indirectly at some point. Being gay has nothing to do with integrity, especially in one who is open and honest about their lives.

To put a frame of reference on the therapist's revealing Herschel discussion of a shootout with law enforcement- that could be entirely consistent with the confidentiality if therapy. If the therapist, a trained professional, believed that Herschel revealed a real and palpable threat, it would be unconscionable not to report it both because of the danger to others and to the patient.

Sonny Christian's flamboyant videos spew and skewer his daddy Hershal and leftists everywhere. Hes seen as an aberation by woke Hollywood, your Lib public relations department.

Opinion. Just like anuses, everybody's got one and that doesn't make yours any more attractive.

They love the fact he's gay, but they hate the fact he isn't waving a rainbow flag and he espouses his so called conservative viewpoints. He's another Milo -- having led a "Gays for Trump" parade in LA recently. ((OMG! )) but it seems to me he's a false flag. Milo too. he's not a conservative, and neither are yo, Crowbot!

What the feck does any of that have to do with Herschel's history of domestic violence and mental illness? Nothing.

Christian had "Daddy" issues --he hates his absentee father, who now he says paid for an abortion for his mistress In 2009, a year after his book about his so called religious conversion.
Hershal denies that claim. The unnamed woman produced  evidence of the abortion which could have been fabricated. ( and we have seen the Left lies all the time ) "The Daily Beast " publishes Christians claims.

Of course Herschel denies any negatives in his history that he can't twist around to demonstrate his rebirth. The Donald has demonstrated that the Big Lie works.

Daddy Hershel reputedly has multiple baby-mommas, and so Christian says he has a "family tree" that looks more like a bush. Early childhood trauma and absent fathers can indeed cause sexual and identity issues later in life in some people, as might be the case with poor Christian. Mental illness can be hereditary, as well. 

Herschel has admitted that he has multiple children by multiple women. The rest of your post is an attempt to obscure, rationalize that. You so funny- conservatives, especially those who base their morality in faith hold the individual responsible for their actions.

That said, if you really were a principled "conservative Republican" you probably wouldn't vote for either of them. But you say your voting for Warnock, and thats a vote for Biden.  

You have accurately identified my quandary: neither major party has an acceptable candidate in this race, so I'm forced to choose the lesser of two evils: a competent Warnock or an inexperienced, mentally and morally questionable Walker.

And that's a vote for the Fraudulent Manchurian Candidate, and a vote for the further destruction of America.

Trump, Trumpists are destroying America by attacking the American election system.

Trump has endorsed the brainwashed and dangerous "Manchurian Candidate"- Herschel Walker.

--which is why you are far worse than simple a brainwashed "useful idiot"

you are a Disgusting RINO! 

Having carefully considered principles beyond Republicanism is a fault?

FILE - Former Georgia running back and Republican Georgia Senate candidate Herschel Walker attends a college football game between UAB and Georgia, Sept. 11, 2021, in Atlanta. Police in Irving, Texas once confiscated a gun from Walker following a dome...Show more

The Associated Press

WASHINGTON -- One warm fall evening in 2001, police in Irving, Texas, received an alarming call from Herschel Walker’s therapist. The football legend and current Republican Senate candidate in Georgia was “volatile,” armed and scaring his estranged wife at the suburban Dallas home they no longer shared.

Officers took cover outside, noting later that Walker had "talked about having a shoot-out with police.” Then they ordered the 1982 Heisman Trophy winner and onetime Dallas Cowboy to step out of the home, according to a police report obtained by The Associated Press through a public records request.

Much of what happened that day at the $1.9 million mansion remains shrouded from view because the report, which Irving police released to the AP only after ordered to do so by the Texas attorney general’s office, was extensively redacted.

What is clear, though, is that Walker's therapist, Jerry Mungadze, a licensed counselor in Texas with a history of embracing practices that experts in the field say are outside the mainstream, played a pivotal role in extracting the former player from the situation.

The incident adds another layer to Walker’s already turbulent personal history, which includes his acknowledged struggles with mental health, violent outbursts and accusations that he repeatedly threatened his ex-wife. And it will test voters’ acceptance of Walker’s assertion that he has long since been a changed person.

After calling police to the gated subdivision where Walker's wife lived, Mungadze rushed to the scene and talked to Walker for at least 30 minutes to calm him down, according to the Sept. 23, 2001, report. In the end, police confiscated a 9mm Sig Sauer handgun from Walker's car and placed his address on a “caution list" because of his “violent tendencies.” But they declined to seek charges or make an arrest. Walker's wife filed for divorce three months later.

Though causing some initial misgivings, Walker's past has done little to deter Republican support for his candidacy. He has been championed aggressively by former President Donald Trump, a longtime friend, with other top Republicans eventually joining the fold.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell and his No. 2, Sen. John Thune, both endorsed Walker in October after early concerns about his history of domestic violence. Last week, Nikki Haley, the former South Carolina governor who served as U.S. ambassador to the United Nations during the Trump administration, tweeted that Walker would be a champion of conservative values and is “living proof that hard work and determination pay off.”

Walker's campaign dismissed the newly surfaced information and blamed the media for highlighting it.

“The very same media who praised Herschel for his transparency nearly two decades ago are now running ... stories, stereotyping, attacking, and going so far as to question his diagnosis," Mallory Blount, a Walker spokesperson, said in a statement. "It’s shameful and is why people don’t trust the media.”

The campaign declined to offer an updated health assessment or grant a request for an interview. There have been no reports of violence involving Walker in the past decade.

Mungadze, too, declined to comment, but has indicated that he is no longer treating Walker. Still, their relationship is part of the story as the former University of Georgia and NFL football star turns to politics.

Walker and Mungadze first met in the early 1980s when both ran college track. They didn't become friends until after Mungadze, who holds a doctorate of philosophy in counselor education, diagnosed Walker with dissociative identity disorder following a separate 2001 episode in which Walker says he sped around suburban Dallas, hearing voices and fantasizing about executing a man who was late delivering a car he had purchased. Psychologists and counselors generally do not have medical degrees.

A former pastor, Mungadze has held a counselor's license in Texas for over three decades and offers himself as an expert in treating dissociative identity disorder, which was once known as multiple personality disorder.

His professional and academic writings lean heavily into the occult, exorcism and possession by demons, which he called a “theological and sociological reality" in a 2000 article “Is It Dissociation or Demonization?” that was published in the Journal of Psychology and Christianity.

In one method of analysis he has pioneered, which experts have singled out as unscientific, patients are asked to color in a drawing of the brain, with Mungadze drawing conclusions about their mental state from the colors they choose. In 2013, he told the televangelist Benny Hinn that he can use the drawings to tell whether someone has been “demonized.”

“I can tell them what spirit they have and what it’s doing in their life,” he said on Hinn’s television show.

His 1990 doctoral thesis for the University of North Texas argues that traditional healers in his native Zimbabwe are better positioned to treat those who claim to be possessed by “ancestral spirits” than providers of Western medicine.

And he was also featured in a 2014 British TV documentary as a practitioner of gay conversion therapy, a scientifically discredited practice that attempts to change the sexual orientation or gender identity of LGBTQ people.

“It’s really disturbing that a prominent individual like Walker would be seeing someone who just looks like the most dubious caregiver in terms of using methods that I’ve never heard of and never seen any published literature on,” Arthur Caplan, a professor of bioethics at New York University’s Grossman School of Medicine, said while referring to Mungadze's practice of diagnosing patients based on how they colored in a drawing of the brain.

Walker has at times been open about his struggle with mental illness, writing at length about it in his 2008 book, “Breaking Free." Mungadze, whom Walker has called “one of my best friends," wrote the book's foreword.

The book details years of struggle before an eventual diagnosis by Mungadze. Walker describes himself dealing with as many as a dozen personalities — or “alters” — that he had constructed as a defense against bullying he suffered as a stuttering, overweight child.

The National Alliance on Mental Illness describes the disorder as “alternating between multiple identities,” leaving a person with “gaps in memory of everyday events.” It notes that men with the disorder often “exhibit more violent behavior rather than amnesia.”

“It’s very intensive treatment,” said Bethany Brand, a clinical psychologist and professor at Towson University, who helped write guidelines for diagnosing the disorder. “They are often quite symptomatic and can relapse, even after a successful course of treatment, if they are under enough stress.”

Comparing his condition to a “broken leg,” Walker wrote that Mungadze assured him “it was possible to achieve emotional stability based on the approach and methods he had developed.”

By Mungadze's account it wasn't easy. In a 2011 Playboy Magazine profile of Walker, Mungadze said he had to call police to his office during one therapy session with Walker and his wife.

“He threatened to kill her, myself and himself. I called 911, and the police came," Mungadze said. According to the article, the incident ended with Walker hitting a door and breaking his fist.

A review of court records and police reports documents a far more turbulent path than portrayed in Walker's book, which was framed as a turnaround story.

About a year into his treatment, a former Dallas Cowboys cheerleader told Irving police in May 2002 that she believed Walker had been lurking outside her house. The woman said she had a “confrontation” with him roughly a year earlier, which led to Walker making threatening phone calls and “having her house watched,” according to a police report. The threats subsided, but after Walker spotted her outside a Four Seasons resort in Irving, she told police that he followed her as she drove home. The woman told police she was “very frightened” of Walker, but asked them not to contact him because it would “only make the problem worse.” She declined to comment for this story.

Walker's ex-wife has said that she was a repeated target of his abuse.

Now going by the name Cindy Grossman, she described violent outbursts in their divorce proceedings, telling of “physically abusive and threatening behavior.” When his book was released, she told ABC News that at one point during their marriage, her husband pointed a pistol at her head and said, “I’m going to blow your ... brains out.”

Mungadze served as a court approved mediator after Grossman filed for divorce in December 2001.

She returned to court in 2005 for a protective order after Walker repeatedly voiced a desire to kill her and her boyfriend, according to court records.

Walker “stated unequivocally that he was going to shoot my sister Cindy and her boyfriend in the head,” her sister later said in an affidavit, which the AP first reported last July. Not long after making the threat, Walker confronted Grossman in public, according to court filings, which indicate he “slowly drove by in his vehicle, pointed his finger at (Grossman) and traced (her) with his finger as he drove.”

A judge granted the protective order and stripped Walker of his right to carry firearms for a period of time. Grossman did not respond to a request for comment at a number currently listed for her.

In 2012, a woman named Myka Dean told Irving police that Walker "lost it" when she tried to end an “on-off-on-off” relationship with him, which she said had lasted for 20 years. Walker, she told officers, threatened to wait outside her apartment and “blow her head off,” according to a January 2012 police report.

Dean, who died in 2019, told police she didn't want to get Walker in trouble. But the officer decided to document the incident because of the “extreme threats.”

Records filed with the federal Securities Exchange Commission show she was once part of a business venture with Walker, holding an ownership stake in a company he led called Renaissance Man Inc., which sold an aloe-based health drink. Her mother and stepfather also served on the company's board.

Walker's campaign said that he “emphatically denies these false claims" and is on good terms with Dean's parents, who support his campaign.

“This is the first any of us knew about this. We are very proud of the man Herschel Walker has become," Diane McKnight, Dean's mother, said in a statement provided by Walker's campaign. "We love him, pray for him and wish we lived in Georgia so we could vote him into the United States Senate.”

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This story was first published on Feb. 10, 2022. It was updated on Feb. 11, 2022, to make clear that U.S. Senate candidate Herschel Walker’s therapist, Jerry Mungadze, holds a doctorate of philosophy in counselor education.

Thanks for that, Cherry picker. 

And I'm sure you know this person on the forum lmao