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Msg ID: 2758810  +4/-3     
Author:Shooting Shark
1/13/2023 12:53:39 AM

https://rumble.com/v22xg02-ed-dowd-and-mike-adams-discuss-catastrophic-civilization-implications....html

the Buffalo Bills football player got his "booster shot" on Dec 26.

got your latest vaccine yet?

Useful idiots! 



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Msg ID: 2758815 Just like Pizzagate? +4/-2     
Author:bladeslap
1/13/2023 6:29:05 AM

Reply to: 2758810

Useful idiot...



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Msg ID: 2758895 "correlation does not imply causation" If one can demonstrate an effect  +3/-2     
Author:TheCrow
1/14/2023 8:54:03 AM

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"correlation does not imply causation" 

'I found $20 on Thursday' means that I will gain $20 worth every Thursday? Nope.

And, yes- I have my boosters and I didn't wake up a young, fit, black pro-football player suffering a cardiac arrest. When there is a demonstrable scientific statistical correlation of the two events- vaccination and ensuing cardiac arrest, I'll be concerned. Until then, my decision would continue to be shaped by the 73% reduction in serious COVID infections and hospitalizations in the vaccinated population.

Perhaps I could buy a term life policy on your unvaccinated arse? That wouold make your Luddite attitude profitable... not for you, but for me.



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Msg ID: 2759129 To shark +2/-3     
Author:Old Guy
1/16/2023 4:07:46 PM

Reply to: 2758810

How is life treating you?  Not much longer and you can get out on the bikes.

I think you hit the mail on the head, with this post.

Has COVID-19 vaccines caused the big jump in heart attacks.

They have already announced issues with strokes but so far have ignored the heart issues.

But the death rate is climbing for no reasonable reason, I have read it is just our unhealthy life style.

I guess that included the life style of doing what the vaccine crowd wanted.

We had a young man in our neighborhood just passed from heart failure.

Such a great loss!

 

 



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Msg ID: 2759178 (To shark): To Old Guy +3/-3     
Author:Shooting Shark
1/17/2023 9:00:28 AM

Reply to: 2759129

Hey Old Guy,

Yes, it's too cold to ride bikes at the moment, but the snow season hasn't peaked yet and snowmobiling has some good prospects this year. 
I see you're keeping the Buddha teathered to reality -- sorta. It's pretty sad when he goes off on a tangent

consciously he seems to know better but supresses the truth revealing his his obvious willful guilability and hypocrisy. The Lib-Quaker-propagandist meanwhile, certainly does know better.  He promotes these leftist lies for for some reason. I suspect he suffers from an undiagnosed personality disorder.. or perhaps simply may be paid to post his mindless trash -- Libs do that, garbage in- garbage out-- while their masters steal us all blind! 

Either way, the only reason I check in here ( about once a week- maybe) is to see how you snd OII still skewer lib pretentions, leaving them broken and lying on the ground, rotting in the mud, or baking in the sun.

it might be funny if lib-tard-ism wasn't so deadly (medicine) and socially destructive.

But there is hope. Yhe Nobel Prize in 2022 for Physics has settled a 100 year debate about the nature of matter. Einstein it seems has been "debunked" .. ( congratulations Neil's Bohr!) and with him, the entire atheistic-deterministic model of science that radical materialists have promoted culturally for the past few hundred years, for various evil reasons!

Actually the deterministic model of science was assumed, as far back as the ancient Greeks, but they weren't atheistic.. Communism and Secular Lib-tard-ism are profoundly so. 

Our present leftists are lemming-like cultural-dupes.

Remember Fauci saying;' "I am science!" 

Tell that to Albert Einstein!
General Relativity is not a "Theory of Everything!"

useful idiots!! 



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Msg ID: 2759209 (To shark): To Old Guy (to shark) +2/-3     
Author:Old Guy
1/17/2023 12:37:08 PM

Reply to: 2759178

The weather has been nice enough here I have decided to get out the Corvette.  Maybe just wishful thinking, of course does not need the weather you need to make a bike ride enjoyable.

Once the Pew Research Center had a study and made the claim that 62% of liberals have a mental condition.   6 main reasons were given, I am sure liberals on this site fit all 6.  Makes posting here disappointing.

I do enjoy a good political debate and will consider reasonable ideas from the left.  But that has not happened for years on this site, Bladeslap has gone completely mad.  I don't need to point out examples, just read posts.

I find that the current state of politics is extremely interesting.  Republicans have won enough seats that they now have a say, being responsible to the people will start to take place.

My son married a wonderful colored woman, they have two sons, 9 and 12.  The boys and I watched the presentation of the Martin Luther King statue, both boys are very proud of King.  But as the event was happening the older one said. "How do they get the idea that the democrats believe in King, King preached that a persons character is more important than his color, democrats think color Is more important."  He got it right! Totally revealing the propganda and gullibility of the left.

useful idiots!

 

 

 

 



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Msg ID: 2759363 Cite it SPECIFICALLY. I just read a Pew Research study that could be over +2/-0     
Author:TheCrow
1/18/2023 1:16:56 PM

Reply to: 2759209

Cite it SPECIFICALLY. I just read a Pew Research study that could be over-generalized and mis-interpretted as asserting that.

First- Being a Trump opponent is not the same as being a 'liberal'. There is a lot of room on the right, consertvative spectrum between Trump and actual conservatism. Trump is not, never has been and never will be conservative- that would require that he maintain a moral position that allows substantial p[ersonal sacrifice.

I am and always have been a conservative who accurately assessed Trump's lack of inclination, experience or ability to be an effective POTUS.

I am and always have been a conservative who accurately assessed Trump's inclination to lie, cheat, steal and bully. That last is especially pertinenent because sexual aggressioon is abolute power over another, not sex. Trump loves to bully others...

 

Personality Traits, Mental Illness, and Ideology

Higher rates of mental illness have been found on the far left.

Previous research in political psychology has suggested that people with conservative political attitudes tend to have better physical health than their liberal counterparts (Chan, 2019) (which I discussed in more detail in a previous post). A more recent study (Kirkegaard, 2020) found that political ideology may also be relevant to mental health, as people who are more liberal, especially those identifying as “extremely liberal,” are more likely to have mental health problems. The author suggested that this may be because political conservatism is associated with greater religiosity, which in turn is associated with better physical and mental health. However, the beneficial relationship between religiosity and health has only been found to apply in cultures in which religion is highly respected, and does not occur in more secular cultures (Stavrova, 2015). On the other hand, conservatism and liberalism are associated with the personality traits of conscientiousness and neuroticism, respectively, which are more robustly linked with mental health than religiosity.

Kirkegaard’s study used data from the General Social Survey, a large-scale survey of American adults age 18 and older that is conducted every few years. The survey includes several questions relevant to mental health, such as “Have you ever felt you had a mental health problem?” “Have you personally ever received treatment for a mental health problem?” and so on. Additionally, the survey includes two questions about happiness or life satisfaction: “Taken all together, how would you say things are these days: Would you say that you are very happy, pretty happy, or not too happy?” and, “If you were to consider your life in general, how happy or unhappy would you say you are, on the whole?” Respondents also indicated their political ideology on a 1-7 scale from extremely liberal to extremely conservative. Kirkegaard’s analysis found that, overall, liberals tended to report poorer mental health than conservatives. This trend was particularly pronounced for those of both sexes self-labeled as “extremely liberal,” who tended to be noticeably worse off on several measures, not just compared to conservatives, but even compared to those identifying as “liberal” or “slightly liberal." On the other hand, those who identified as “extremely conservative” tended to have similar levels of mental health compared to those identifying as “conservative” and “slightly conservative,” with generally mild differences from “moderate,” “slightly liberal,” and “liberal” respondents. Similarly, in response to the two questions about happiness, conservative respondents in all groups tended to report being happier than liberal groups generally, with extremely liberal men but not women reporting the least happiness. Statistically, differences between the most extreme ideological categories tended to be moderate in size.

Kirkegaard suggested that the relationship between mental health and ideology might reflect that conservatives tend to be more religious, and being religious is associated with health benefits (Koenig, 2012), while admitting that a cross-sectional survey is not very informative regarding causality. However, other research has found that the apparently beneficial relationship between religiosity and health is not universal but appears to reflect the fit between the individual and their culture (Stavrova, 2015). That is, in cultural contexts where religiosity is well-respected, religious individuals gain social benefits that seem to improve their health. On the other hand, in cultural contexts where religion is not as well regarded, these benefits disappear. This finding applied not just between different countries but even within different regions of the US with high versus low levels of religiousness. Hence, it may be worth considering other factors, such as personality traits that are known to be related to both ideology and mental health.

Specifically, surveys on the “Big Five” traits of extraversionagreeablenessconscientiousness, neuroticism, and openness to experience have found that people identifying as politically liberal tend to be higher on openness to experience (complexity of mental life) and neuroticism (negative emotionality) and lower on conscientiousness (socialized impulse control) than their conservative counterparts (Fatke, 2017; Gerber et al., 2011). Furthermore, not only do these differences apply when considering liberalism vs. conservatism as a one-dimensional spectrum, differences have also been found when considering the economic and social dimensions of liberalism and conservatism separately. For example, one study (Gerber et al., 2009), using data from three nationally representative datasets, found that neuroticism was more strongly related to economic than social liberalism. That is, people who were higher in neuroticism tended to hold left-liberal positions on economic issues such as higher taxes and government funding for healthcare more strongly than they did on social issues such as abortion and gay rights. Similarly, people high in conscientiousness tended to hold more conservative views on both economic and social issues, although more so for the former kinds of issues. Importantly, these relationships held even when controlling for respondents’ religious attendance. This suggests that personality traits were substantially related to ideology regardless of religiosity. Gerber et al. consider at least two distinct reasons why neuroticism might be associated with liberal economic views: sympathy and self-interest. That is, highly neurotic individuals might be more worried about and feel guilt toward the less fortunate; alternatively, they could be more worried about their own ability to cope with adverse economic circumstances, such as having inadequate health insurance, and therefore support social welfare out of self-interest. And of course, it may be a combination of both.

I find this interesting because although religious individuals tend to be more conscientious than less religious people, they do not generally differ from others in neuroticism (Saroglou, 2009). Additionally, although high conscientiousness and low neuroticism are each associated with mental health and well-being, of the two traits, neuroticism generally has stronger effects (Malouff et al., 2005; Steel et al., 2008). Hence, rather than conservatives having better mental health because they are more religious, it may be that extreme liberals tend to have worse mental health because they are more highly neurotic. Of course, this would need to be tested with further research. In particular, it would be interesting to examine whether economic attitudes have a stronger relationship with mental health than social ones, considering that the former have a notably stronger relationship with neuroticism. Finally, let’s remember to treat mentally ill people with compassion regardless of their ideology.

 

© Scott McGreal. Please do not reproduce without permission. Brief excerpts may be quoted as long as a link to the original article is provided.

 

References

Chan, E. Y. (2019). Political orientation and physical health: The role of personal responsibility. Personality and Individual Differences, 141, 117–122. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.paid.2019.01.005

Fatke, M. (2017). Personality Traits and Political Ideology: A First Global Assessment. Political Psychology, 38(5), 881–899. https://doi.org/10.1111/pops.12347

Gerber, A., Huber, G., Ha, S. E., Dowling, C., & Doherty, D. (2009). Personality Traits and the Dimensions of Political Ideology (SSRN Scholarly Paper ID 1412863). Social Science Research Network. https://doi.org/10.2139/ssrn.1412863

Gerber, A. S., Huber, G. A., Doherty, D., & Dowling, C. M. (2011). The Big Five Personality Traits in the Political Arena. Annual Review of Political Science, 14(1), 265–287. https://doi.org/10.1146/annurev-polisci-051010-111659

Koenig, H. G. (2012). Religion, spirituality, and health: The research and clinical implications. ISRN Psychiatry, 2012, 278730–278730. PubMed. https://doi.org/10.5402/2012/278730

Malouff, J. M., Thorsteinsson, E. B., & Schutte, N. S. (2005). The Relationship Between the Five-Factor Model of Personality and Symptoms of Clinical Disorders: A Meta-Analysis. Journal of Psychopathology and Behavioral Assessment, 27(2), 101–114. https://doi.org/10.1007/s10862-005-5384-y

Saroglou, V. (2009). Religiousness as a Cultural Adaptation of Basic Traits: A Five-Factor Model Perspective. Personality and Social Psychology Review, 14(1), 108–125. https://doi.org/10.1177/1088868309352322

Stavrova, O. (2015). Religion, Self-Rated Health, and Mortality: Whether Religiosity Delays Death Depends on the Cultural Context. Social Psychological and Personality Science, 6(8), 911–922. https://doi.org/10.1177/1948550615593149

Steel, P., Schmidt, J., & Shultz, J. (2008). Refining the relationship between personality and subjective well-being. Psychological Bulletin, 134(1), 138–161. https://doi.org/10.1037/0033-2909.134.1.138

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About the Author

Scott McGreal is a psychology researcher with a particular interest in individual differences, especially in personality and intelligence.



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