Just the number of people that have been moving out of democrat  Controlled states should give people on the left reason to rethink their position. In the near future the trend maybe just to change the location of the state lines.  Eastern Oregon has voted to become Idaho, Idaho is starting to negotiate with Oregon.  Will the people of eastern Oregon become free, time will tell.

Divorce American has started to become a subject, taking on different shapes.  But it is just more people wanting to move to places that have governments that work for the people.  These movements will grow until they eventually happen, or the left moves back to becoming democrats again.

Being vaccinated for COVID 19 reduces inc idence of hospitalization/severe infection by 73% AND:

COVID-19 vaccination associated with fewer heart attacks, strokes, and other cardiovascular issues

You are going to make a comparison of completely disfunctional Goverments to article that has a low rating of believability, and think we would be embarrassed!

I can assure you, no one is moving out and running away from democratic states because of this questionable study.

You are going to make a comparison of completely disfunctional Goverments to article that has a low rating of believability, and think we would be embarrassed!

If you look at a map of red and blue states, you will see that the climate in blue states is colder with harsher winters than red states. That's why the exodus from blue states; that and the fact that the industrialized Northeast is a failed industrial model....

In Florida, they were once called 'snowbirds'. That term is largely obsolete as the Baby Boom retires to the 'red' (warm) Southern tier.

You really think those people are moving because of the weather.

 You maybe right, weather or not they have a good life style.

Explain why some real winter type states like Idaho, Montana and Utah have made some of the biggest population gains?  Not exactly like living on the beach.

Why is Hawaii one of the big population loser's?

The people in Oregon are going to have the same damn weather, they just mwant out of a blue state.

You are correct that the industrialized Northeast is a failed industrialized model, not because of the industry, but because of the goverment overseeing it (remember Detroit).  Industries in red states don't appear to have these problems.  In fact, blue state industries and moving to red states!

You really think those people are moving because of the weather.

You maybe right, weather or not they have a good life style.

Winter weather, amongst other reasons such as population density.

Explain why some real winter type states like Idaho, Montana and Utah have made some of the biggest population gains?  Not exactly like living on the beach.

"Idaho, Montana and Utah" offer other desirable features- some people like the mountains, less populated areas and the recreation they offer.

Why is Hawaii one of the big population loser's?

Perhaps cost of living in tropical vacation location?

"People move for personal/family and economic/employment reasons. Those who choose to move consider themselves better off by moving. For the economy, migration is one way the labor market adjusts to business cycles and external shocks. For example, absent migration, the labor market’s response to a sharp economic recession is a (steeper than otherwise) rise in unemployment and probably a fall in labor force participation. Migration absorbs some of the shock, which is good for those who stayed. In the long run, sustained net out-migration reduces the state’s human capital and retards economic growth."

And isolation- the longest Interstate Highway in in Hawaii is 27 miles long and none of it- NONE of it leaves the state. 

The people in Oregon are going to have the same damn weather, they just mwant out of a blue state.

And? Whats your point?

How about the real reasons!

Simply put, people are moving from blue states not just to escape unaffordable housing and high taxes.  They're moving to escape fiscally irresposible, ineffective, unaccountable governments, that always want more tax revenues while delivering diminishing quality services and infrastructure of a topical city run by the left.  There's nothing like a crime infested homeless encampment a few yards from your home or businesses to change your calculations of the benefits of staying put.  Throw in decaying public schools, transportation, random crime, and higher cost of living,  the red states start to look awesome.

That is the main reasons people are moving, and the failure of the incompetent left is the Point!

"Simply put, people are moving from blue states not just to escape unaffordable housing and high taxes.  They're moving to escape fiscally irresposible, ineffective, unaccountable governments, that always want more tax revenues while delivering diminishing quality services and infrastructure of a topical city run by the left.  There's nothing like a crime infested homeless encampment a few yards from your home or businesses to change your calculations of the benefits of staying put.  Throw in decaying public schools, transportation, random crime, and higher cost of living,  the red states start to look awesome."

Even more "Simply put...", all the conditions you decry are results of the market and elections, both or which are determined by the people affected. Even your alleged "... crime infested homeless encampment a few yards from your home or businesses" exist only, ONLY because your local government does not prevent that being so.

I challenge you to provide evidence that the homeless contribute to increased criminal activity. You are a bigot not only regards race, notional origin, ethnicity and religious belief, you are an economic bigot. Here's the bad news, mo fo- according to your principles, anybody wealthier than you can justifiably believe that you, specifically, are a criminal- and you can't argue the point because you believe it also.

You Post "the conditions are results of the market and elections"

Of course they are, elections have produced red and blue states, red states that have become successful and blue states that have become failures.

Want proof, look and see the data of people leaving blue states for a better life and why.  Internet is full of data.

Same thing as the crime rate for homeless, up 27%.  Homeless are also the victims of increasing crime!  Internet is full of data.

You are right, Idaho does not have a huge homeless issue.  Towns and cities do not have homeless camps.

 WE HAVE JOBS, WE CARE FOR PEOPLE WITH A COST OF LIVING LOW ENOUGHT TO SUPPORT A GOOD LIFE.  WE PUT CRIMINALS IN JAIL.  TAXES ARE LOW, BUSINESS REGULATIONS ALMOST NONEXISTENT AND GDP MUCH BETTER THAN NATIONAL AVERAGE.  WE ARE A RED STATE, SO WE HAVE ELECTED PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT A FREE MARKET, SMALL GOVERNMENT AND PEOPLE!

It is apparent that you have lost this debate, can't produce reasonable objections, so you have resulted in calling  names.  That pretty much ends this debate.

 

You Post "the conditions are results of the market and elections"

Of course they are, elections have produced red and blue states, red states that have become successful and blue states that have become failures.

Want proof, look and see the data of people leaving blue states for a better life and why.  Internet is full of data.

Let's look at some data regarding "... red states that have become successful and blue states that have become failures."

Are you ignoring data or are you ignorant of the data?

Connecticut Real per capita income: $68,533

Nominal per capita income: $78,609

MassachusettsReal per capita income: $65,853

Nominal per capita income: $78,458

New YorkReal per capita income: $60,936

Nominal per capita income: $74,472

WyomingReal per capita income: $60,463

Nominal per capita income: $61,855

North DakotaReal per capita income: $60,286

Nominal per capita income: $61,530

New JerseyReal per capita income: $59,594

Nominal per capita income: $73,460

South DakotaReal per capita income: $58,414

Nominal per capita income: $59,281

New HampshireReal per capita income: $58,342

Nominal per capita income: $67,092

CaliforniaReal per capita income: $57,347

Nominal per capita income: $70,192

PennsylvaniaReal per capita income: $57,030

Nominal per capita income: $61,700

Same thing as the crime rate for homeless, up 27%.  Homeless are also the victims of increasing crime!  Internet is full of data.

You are right, Idaho does not have a huge homeless issue.  Towns and cities do not have homeless camps.

 WE HAVE JOBS, WE CARE FOR PEOPLE WITH A COST OF LIVING LOW ENOUGHT TO SUPPORT A GOOD LIFE.  WE PUT CRIMINALS IN JAIL.  TAXES ARE LOW, BUSINESS REGULATIONS ALMOST NONEXISTENT AND GDP MUCH BETTER THAN NATIONAL AVERAGE.  WE ARE A RED STATE, SO WE HAVE ELECTED PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT A FREE MARKET, SMALL GOVERNMENT AND PEOPLE!

It is apparent that you have lost this debate, can't produce reasonable objections, so you have resulted in calling  names.  That pretty much ends this debate.

You Post "the conditions are results of the market and elections"

Of course they are, elections have produced red and blue states, red states that have become successful and blue states that have become failures.

Want proof, look and see the data of people leaving blue states for a better life and why.  Internet is full of data.

Let's look at some data regarding "... red states that have become successful and blue states that have become failures."

Are you ignoring data or are you ignorant of the data (follows)?

U.S. Per Capita Income By State In 2021

Connecticut (BLUE) Real per capita income: $68,533

Nominal per capita income: $78,609

Massachusetts  (BLUE) Real per capita income: $65,853

Nominal per capita income: $78,458

New York  (BLUE) Real per capita income: $60,936

Nominal per capita income: $74,472

WyomingReal (Red) per capita income: $60,463

Nominal per capita income: $61,855

North Dakota (Red) Real per capita income: $60,286

Nominal per capita income: $61,530

New Jersey (BLUE) Real per capita income: $59,594

Nominal per capita income: $73,460

South Dakota (Red)  Real per capita income: $58,414

Nominal per capita income: $59,281

New Hampshire (BLUE) Real per capita income: $58,342

Nominal per capita income: $67,092

California (BLUE) Real per capita income: $57,347

Nominal per capita income: $70,192

Pennsylvania (BLUE) Real per capita income: $57,030

Nominal per capita income: $61,700

That's the top 10 states, per capita. Notice that 7 of the 10 are 'Blue' states; numbers 4, 5 and #7 are 'red'. It's very limited rating of the states reflecting popular votes and only loosely correlated to business 'success', 'red' and 'blue' states, but it does seem that 'red states' are not necessarily more usuccessful than 'blue' states. What is not shown in my post is the FACT that the stereotypical 'blue' state, California has the 7th largest per capita GDP in the world. I think that bears repeating- California has the 7th largest per capita GDP at  $85,546  in the world, behind Qatar's $92,200.

Same thing as the crime rate for homeless, up 27%.  Homeless are also the victims of increasing crime!  Internet is full of data.

Cite your source that "...crime rate for homeless, up 27%".

You are right, Idaho does not have a huge homeless issue.  Towns and cities do not have homeless camps.

Idaho's homeless rate comes in at 16th highest homeless rate of 50 states. Yeah, I'd brag about that. Not! Georgia shows at 31st...

"According to the National Alliance to End Homelessness, many areas with a high cost of living, especially high housing costs, also have higher rates of homelessness."

 WE HAVE JOBS, WE CARE FOR PEOPLE WITH A COST OF LIVING LOW ENOUGHT TO SUPPORT A GOOD LIFE.  WE PUT CRIMINALS IN JAIL.  TAXES ARE LOW, BUSINESS REGULATIONS ALMOST NONEXISTENT AND GDP MUCH BETTER THAN NATIONAL AVERAGE.  WE ARE A RED STATE, SO WE HAVE ELECTED PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT A FREE MARKET, SMALL GOVERNMENT AND PEOPLE!

"According to the National Alliance to End Homelessness, many areas with a high cost of living, especially high housing costs, also have higher rates of homelessness."

"It is apparent that you have lost this debate, can't produce reasonable objections, so you have resulted in calling  names.  That pretty much ends this debate."

Did you give up on the idea that people moved for the sun shine!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrisdorsey/2021/03/17/americas-mass-migration-intensifies-as-leftugees-flee-blue-states-and-counties-for-red/?sh=5eb727ba3146</p>

Of course states that have large corporations have a high per capital income.  That in NO way reflects on how the average person is doing.

Let us look at the highest income state in your post, Connecticut and compare it to Idaho.

accoording to my research Connecticut cost of living is 21.2% higher than Idaho, but employers in CT typically pay 16.3 more than Idaho. Looks like you are only losing 5% living in CT.

Looking at the issue from a different direction, (value of $100.00) using your top income states from your post.

compared to Idaho,  In Idaho a$100 has the value Of $107.80 

Connecticut---------$95.00

Massachuset---------s89.60

New York-------------s83.70

Wyoming-------------$107.20

This clearly show that any increase in income is wiped out by a higher cost of living.

Yes ! California is a good example, it does have a high GDP.  But that in no way indicates how well people are doing.  The value of $100.00 is only $83.00 and the cost of living is  staggering.  Why do you think they are moving out, are they are moving at a record pace.

I do not even start to believe that Idaho has a large number of homeless.  The number is approximately 1,000 and we have sufficient shelters, there are NO homeless camps.  But I will look into your claim.

Idaho's homeless rate.

the latest data I found has Idaho homeless rate per capita at:    .0011%

Georgia at :     .001%

Not much difference to cheer about.  It does appear that most all states are hanging around the .001%. , give or take minor differences.  Homeless problems don't appear to jump up until you look at the big blue states, then the problem explodes.